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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre And I'll offer this - Stephone Anthony was a beast his rookie season at the MIKE for the Saints ; he should get some serious reps there again with Mike Nolan now on the team... Nolan ...

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Old 06-06-2017, 10:39 AM   #401
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And I'll offer this - Stephone Anthony was a beast his rookie season at the MIKE for the Saints; he should get some serious reps there again with Mike Nolan now on the team...

Nolan has a proven track record with front sevens and defenses and I believe D.A. will need to swallow his ego a bit and give Nolan (and Nielsen) room to get the front seven fixed...
With more and more players capable of playing MIKE, and other LB spots, that will give Nolan much more flexibility with scheme and potentially creating the ability to confuse the likes of Winston, Ryan, Newton etc. Remember former Saints LB Mark Fields from the mid/late 90s?? It took him a year or two before the light came on. I wouldn't be surprised if the Saints brass keep as many as 7, 8 linebackers.

Stephone must bring it this season that is for sure. He is either gonna turn a corner and become a Derrick Johnson or Bruce Carter...so far it's been the latter.

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I wonder how much that has to do with the limited reps allowed under the CBA? That has to be addressed the next time around. Even some players are questioning the policy.
See, that's a great point, question; have often wonder if the senior players who were in on negotiations felt they didn't need the wear and tear, when...

...point of fact, proper condition for the minimizing of injuries can only be achieved through extended repetition of exercise, practice...

...and then there's a younger player who can only improve at his skill position through reps, which is what I was trying to highlight...
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See, that's a great point, question; have often wonder if the senior players who were in on negotiations felt they didn't need the wear and tear, when...

...point of fact, proper condition for the minimizing of injuries can only be achieved through extended repetition of exercise, practice...

...and then there's a younger player who can only improve at his skill position through reps, which is what I was trying to highlight...
Jim Miller and Pat Kirwin made that very same argument on NFL Radio's Movin' the Chains about a week ago. They said it was the older veteran players that championed the reduced workload, but to the detriment of the younger players who would be missing out on valuable reps. They also explained that mindset in that the older players were much more likely to have families with whom they would like to be able to spend more of that summer time with than the younger players who were more likely to be single or childless.
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Jim Miller and Pat Kirwin made that very same argument on NFL Radio's Movin' the Chains about a week ago. They said it was the older veteran players that championed the reduced workload, but to the detriment of the younger players who would be missing out on valuable reps. They also explained that mindset in that the older players were much more likely to have families with whom they would like to be able to spend more of that summer time with than the younger players who were more likely to be single or childless.
There you geaux...
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 June (Pre) Mini-Camp

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco,
38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA)
WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Ted Ginn, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Jake Lampmann,
11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 17 - Rashad Lawrence
LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 79 - Bryce Harris

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner, 76 - Cameron Lee (UDFA)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 61 - Josh LeRibeus, 66 - Jack Allen, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 69 - Khalif Barnes

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 80 - Clay Harbor

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Dan Arnold (UDFA), 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 88 - Justin Thomas (UDFA)


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 74 - Alex Jenkins (PS-E)

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 90 - Nick Fairley

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196), 58 - Obum Gwacham

SLB (2) 52 - Craig Robertson, 54 - Nate Stupar, 45 - Sae Tautu (UDFA)

MLB (3) 53 - A.J. Klein, 50 - Stephone Anthony, 51 - Manti Te'o, 99 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

RCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 34 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 24 - Sterling Moore, 27 - Damian Swann, 21 - De’Vante Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 31 - Chris Banjo

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 25 - Rafael Bush, 35 - Robenson Therezie

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 39 - Taveze Calhoun


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 46 - Jesse Schmitt, 49 - Chase Dominguez (UDFA), 45 - Garrett Griffin


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 44; Defense: 41; Kicking: 5
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Klein has been playing both SAM & MIKE LBer; in Carolina he mostly played SAM and moved to MIKE when Kuechly was out...

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Fairley or neaux, like Zimmer, with his athleticism to make the 53 man roster...


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Might we see a front seven like this, if Nolan gets Anthony turned around?

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103)

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 90 - Nick Fairley

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar

MLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 52 - Craig Robertson/51 - Manti Te'o

WLB (3) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

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