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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 Uh Hint: The number one offense put up 13 points against the Giants and a Whopping 11 points against the Bucs. Those losses are clearly on the offense for not scoring enough Against the Chief Drew ...
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by spkb25
Again, you're stating the offense struggled in a few games. Wow, that's some primo analysis on your part.![]()
If you think the offense is the problem, I just don't know what to tell you. All the analysis available points to the defense being much worse than the offense. Our offense struggled in 3 to 4 games. Our defense struggled in 10 to 12 games. WTF am I missing? |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by Danno
Didn't address one fact made about those 5 games, exactly. That's called passively accepting defeat. ![]()
Now you're changing the topic.So let me get you back on topic. The point I made was simply this, it did not extend further: The Offense was responsible for 5 of our losses. |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by spkb25
Again no, our offense didn't play well in 5 of our losses. They were not to blame.![]()
Did you not see the blocked FG that cost us the Giants game? Did you not see the blocked PAT that cost us the Bronco's game? Those were both on the ST's. I'm a bit surprised you blame those on the offense. |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by Danno
The blocked PAT would have never happened or wouldn't have mattered if the Offense didn't keep the game close by turning the ball over 4 times. 3 of those in our own half.![]()
It's just like 2011 playoffs all over again, the offense turns the ball over 5 times versus the 49ers but somehow people still blame the D because they couldnt hold. |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
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I'm sure there was never a resolution in these pages since. These people just want a top defense and half Drew for a SB. |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by Danno
He has dug his hole and he is willing to be buried in it. His logic is absent, but his persistence must be admired.
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by Danno
First I am glad to see you're slowly stopping your argument and now challenging me on two games verse all of them. Either way you're still wrong. You're not wrong in your premise that the offense has less blame than the defense for the entire season, that you're right about, but you're completely wrong that these 5 losses are not on the offense. ![]()
They scored 13 points against the Giants, that is their fault. Yes ST contributed, but that is their fault. All they needed to do was score 17 points bro, for Christ sakes their the number one offense in the league, wtf they cant get more than 13 frigan points, really? The offense had 4 turnovers against the Broncos. One of those turnovers was when we were driving for points. The other three were 1 inside our 40 and 2 inside our 20. That led to 13 points. The blocked XP becomes irrelevant if not for the offensive mistakes |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by spkb25
You can't expect the offense to be superman all the time. That's why you have to have a good defense. A good defense will pick up the slack when the offense is not playing it's best. ie, Denvers defense in 2015 and the Super Bowl. Payton Manning was done. It was Denver's defense that shut down fig Newton and won that Super Bowl. If the Saints had a defense like that you wouldn't need to blame the offense because they didn't play lights out 100 percent of the time.
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by NonieT
The offense is to blame for those 5 losses. Plain and simple.
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