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CheramieIII

10-15-2017 01:08 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 769838)

My early gut feeling is SP will go after the top toy in the draft.

Christian Kirk WR/KR/PR Texas A&M* 5106 200 4.39 #3 Jr

I like his college game more than Cooks college game. Its simple. KR/PR skill set Cooks never had and Kirk is much better at quick screens and reverses also. Which we all know is an SP favorite.

I would find it hard to pass on the most pro ready WR in the draft.

Calvin Ridley WR Alabama 6005 190 4.48

He is a plug n play #2 day 1

want a mid to late round (5/6) injury flyer in the slot?

Deebo Samuel WR/KR South Carolina 5110 208 4.50 #1 rJr

He is great working out of the slot. He is a solid route runner. He sets up DBs very nicely with smooth, quick and shifty breaks. Shame he broke his fibula. He was looking really good too. Good side he did it early in the year and should be ready to go for OTAs. He was looking like a day 1 starter. He is one of those sneaky quick pest in the slot that can drive teams nuts.

Few others since we have 2 - 5s and 2 - 6s
Michael Gallup WR, Colorado State, 6-1, 195, 4.52, Sr.
Cedric Wilson WR Boise St 6016 4.49 #1 Sr

I may not see the immediate needs in picking both

Calvin Ridley WR Alabama 6005 190 4.48 #3 Jr
Deebo Samuel WR/KR South Carolina 5110 208 4.50 #1 rJr

But I would have to admit I could see a great chance that the saints 3 WR set would be set for years to come.

Micheal Thomas WR OSU 6026 212 4.52 #3 rJr
Calvin Ridley WR Alabama 6005 190 4.48 #3 Jr
Deebo Samuel WR/KR South Carolina 5110 208 4.50 #1 rJr
Willie Snead WR/KR Ball St 5110 195 4.56 #3 Jr
Brandon Coleman WR Rutgers 6060 225 4.52 #17 rJr

I have not given up on
Corey Fuller WR Virgina Tech 6022 204 4.43 #83 rSr

I would almost be giddy and looking for a TE to finish it off this beast for Drew and SP

But my gut is telling me

Micheal Thomas WR OSU 6026 212 4.52 #3 rJr
Christian Kirk WR/KR/PR Texas A&M* 5106 200 4.39 #3 Jr

I like Kirk's value.

jeanpierre

10-15-2017 06:42 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 769960)

I really think we need a QB to but depending on where we'll be drafting the options might be slim.

Actually Cher, this is one of the deepest drafts at QB in some time...

hagan714

10-15-2017 09:17 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 769960)

I really think we need a QB to but depending on where we'll be drafting the options might be slim.

If the saints are going to do this then lets not screw around

Round 1 pick you poison
Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State 6036 235 4.77 #2 Sr
Luke Falk, QB, Washington State 6032 214 4.87 #4 rSr

Round 3 hedge your bet
Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma 6002 220 4.64 #6 rSr

winner takes over for Drew and loser gets traded

jeanpierre

10-16-2017 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 770180)

Really, really like Falk; Mayfield won't get outta the second round borrowing an injury or goat-f**king with Chelsea Clinton...

K Major

10-16-2017 04:47 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 770180)

If the saints are going to do this then lets not screw around

Round 1 pick you poison
Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State 6036 235 4.77 #2 Sr

Rudolph in the first? Wow. I don't see it.

AsylumGuido

10-16-2017 04:51 PM

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Who is going to be there for us at #32?

jeanpierre

10-17-2017 03:39 AM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 770381)

Who is going to be there for us at #32?

See that's what I'm thinking; it makes that second round pick for Kamara that much less painful - that and Kamara's continued impact...

jeanpierre

10-18-2017 12:52 PM

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hagan714

10-18-2017 07:34 PM

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At 32?

Iman Marshall CB USC 6002 200 4.53 USC #8 Jr

K Major

10-18-2017 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 770774)

https://twitter.com/Saints/status/920683071866834944

Nice. Only a 15 minute drive from my home.

I'll be there.

AsylumGuido

10-19-2017 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 770876)

Nice. Only a 15 minute drive from my home.

I'll be there.

It might be cool to make a short road trip there myself.

jeanpierre

10-19-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 770876)

Nice. Only a 15 minute drive from my home.

I'll be there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 770915)

It might be cool to make a short road trip there myself.

Damn, this could get interesting...my daughter lives in Natchitoches now...

jeanpierre

10-19-2017 10:22 PM

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If we don't take a QB at the end of the first round, I really like OG Quenton Nelson and DE Sam Hubbard...

AsylumGuido

10-20-2017 07:39 AM

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I want to go and get Jeff Ireland's autograph. What a stud!

billyt81

10-20-2017 10:15 AM

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Ooh. Ooh. This is where I point out all the LSU Tigers we need in black and gold. This MLB White leads the SEC in tackles by a lot and runs like a DB. Christian LaCotoure is a beast at DT. Of course Arden Key is a great pass rushing super fast DE. DJ Chark has good size and he can fly scoring a 75+yd td run, catch and return in his career. Only Kevin Faulk did that before Chark at LSU. Russel Gage can do it all, handoffs, deep routes and can turn a short curl into a big gain. He reminds me of Golden Tate. Darius Guice is the next great RB from Catholic High and LSU. I think Guice is the best RB in the country and he has great hands too. Darrel Williams is a 230+lb bruiser who runs real low to the ground and breaks tackles on every carry. Williams can be a Chris Ivory type of player. Can we please get a Tiger or two or......on the Saints roster? Im thinking Russel Gage in the 5th rd, LaCotoure in the 4th, DJ Chark in the 3rd, Arden Key in the 2nd and Darius Guice in the 1st rd. Whod be against that? Its kind of possible huh? We get a feature back, a stud DE pass rusher, a tough DT and 2 more WRs for Peyton to play with. Lets never forget, pro bowl WR Jarvis Landry was available when we took Stanley Jean Baptiste.

K Major

10-20-2017 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 771135)

Ooh. Ooh. This is where I point out all the LSU Tigers we need in black and gold. This MLB White leads the SEC in tackles by a lot and runs like a DB. Of course Arden Key is a great pass rushing super fast DE.

Hot/cold and missed quite a few snaps over the last month. Consistency is a concern right now. Possible shoulder concerns?

His stock is trending down right now.

billyt81

10-20-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 771137)

Hot/cold and missed quite a few snaps over the last month. Consistency is a concern right now. Possible shoulder concerns?

His stock is trending down right now.

Until he runs a 4.4 40 at the combine. Unfortunately, he reminds me a little of Barkevious Mingo but Keys production has been much better than Mingo's.

K Major

10-20-2017 11:04 AM

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Keep on eye on Dorance Armstrong Jr. - DE/OLB, Kansas

jeanpierre

10-20-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 771143)

Keep on eye on Dorance Armstrong Jr. - DE/OLB, Kansas

I like how he plays with a low center of gravity; strong base; adequate bend; good footwork; needs better vision, gap discipline...

Dorance Armstrong (Kansas EDGE) vs TTU - 2017 - YouTube

vpheughan

10-21-2017 09:04 PM

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They all remind me of "THE KID"

Cruize

10-22-2017 04:38 AM

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LB, TE, DT or if the top CB falls again, wouldn't it be nice to have another Lattimore.

hagan714

10-22-2017 05:35 AM

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Dorance Armstrong Jr. hyped into round 1? not there yet. i see to much of a passive nature when the play is away from him. motor/passion is in question for me. round 2 works for me right now

Jerome Baker OLB/ILB Ohio State 6005 225 4.62 #17 Jr
Baker is slightly undersized, but is another exceptional athlete with sideline to sideline speed. At ILB he fills holes in a flash. What I really like about Baker, he has the agility that makes it difficult to block him inside and yet he’s not afraid to engage blockers. He is well coached in hand usage to separate and explode out of the block.At OLB he can chase down ball carries with impressive suddenness, closing speed and range. He shows good awareness and instincts with solid ball-hawk skills against both the run and the pass. Versatility is his calling card. Need to bulk up a bit? But were does he end up at? ILB? WLB? Is he freakish enough to pull of SLB?

But like all the OSU players the have to be approached with caution. They turnover so much talent

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 771344)

LB, TE, DT or if the top CB falls again, wouldn't it be nice to have another Lattimore.

Bradley Chubb drops to the 1/2 range of the draft? I will not be surprised. Their is very little hyped upside with him. Nothing is really flashy about him. I am not expecting a huge beauty pageant showing before the draft either. He is a boring solid all around good football player.

jeanpierre

10-23-2017 03:00 PM

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After yesterday's games, if the draft were held based on win-loss pct at the present, we would be drafting in the 26th hole...

jeanpierre

10-25-2017 04:54 PM

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Guys at the end of the first round, I'm liking...

OG Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 329 lbs

LB Cameron Smith, USC; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 245 lbs

QB Baker Mayfield, OU; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 218 lbs

NT Vita Vea, Washington; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 344 lbs

jeanpierre

10-25-2017 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 771346)

Jerome Baker OLB/ILB Ohio State 6005 225 4.62 #17 Jr

Baker is slightly undersized, but is another exceptional athlete with sideline to sideline speed. At ILB he fills holes in a flash. What I really like about Baker, he has the agility that makes it difficult to block him inside and yet he’s not afraid to engage blockers. He is well coached in hand usage to separate and explode out of the block.At OLB he can chase down ball carries with impressive suddenness, closing speed and range. He shows good awareness and instincts with solid ball-hawk skills against both the run and the pass. Versatility is his calling card. Need to bulk up a bit? But were does he end up at? ILB? WLB? Is he freakish enough to pull of SLB?

But like all the OSU players the have to be approached with caution. They turnover so much talent

I like how we've been signing, drafting linebackers that can play all three positions (e.g. Robertson, Klein, Stupar, Mauti, Anzalone) and Baker seems limited with that regard...

hagan714

10-26-2017 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 771729)

After yesterday's games, if the draft were held based on win-loss pct at the present, we would be drafting in the 26th hole...

would you ?

QB Baker Mayfield, OU; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 218 lbs

jeanpierre

10-28-2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 772410)

would you ?

QB Baker Mayfield, OU; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 218 lbs

Right now, in my mind, he's back of the first, second round pick; I just might...

Don't know if you've been watching his games, but he reminds me of this kid from Purdue that the Chargers drafted...

K Major

10-28-2017 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 771074)

If we don't take a QB at the end of the first round, I really like OG Quenton Nelson and DE Sam Hubbard...

Keep a lazy eye on this Buckeye today vs Penn State.

SmashMouth

10-28-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 772726)

Keep a lazy eye on this Buckeye today vs Penn State.

After my workout ...

https://i.imgur.com/Xzfq5eE.gif

https://i.imgur.com/1wI9iO8.gif

K Major

10-28-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 772410)

would you ?

QB Baker Mayfield, OU; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 218 lbs

I would. He's a better version of Colt McKoy. Super competitive, nice arm strength, elevates players around him, good feet & makes big plays in big moments.

jeanpierre

11-01-2017 12:36 AM

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25. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama

Picking 25th? Think we'll be further to the back - and I'm not buying that the Saints are taking a linebacker in Round 1 again under Sean Payton...

lee909

11-01-2017 01:25 AM

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Prefer the cowboys pick

26.*DALLAS COWBOYSDI Vita Vea, Washington

Vea is more than just a space-eating nose tackle as he complements his elite run-stopping ability with the power to push the pocket better than anyone in the country. Vea moves well for 340-plus pounds and he has 61 career pressures on 480 rushes, showing that he can collapse the pocket in must-pass situations. Vea’s 88.9 overall grade currently ranks fourth among interior defensive linemen in the nation.

K Major

11-01-2017 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 773572)

Prefer the cowboys pick

26.*DALLAS COWBOYSDI Vita Vea, Washington

I've seen his name come up quite a bit on this board. Is this kid the truth? I'm not familiar with him nor have I seen any of Washington's games this year. Dominant NFL Pro prospect?

Last player with this much Pre draft hype at the position was Danny Shelton (same college as Vea).

lee909

11-01-2017 09:49 AM

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Not a clue
Just going off the reports.
A bigger need imho

hagan714

11-01-2017 06:10 PM

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Actually I was expecting Vita to become much more than what I have seen. I have cooled on him a good bit especially with a proven player available at what should be a bargain price.

DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $3/4 M

Hot player right now for pick 25 might end up being

Carlton Davis CB Aurburn 6012 203 4.53 #6 Jr
Now he can play the slot. Talk about a jam. but off the field issues might take him off the board

I am not sold on a CB at 25 but DE

Lorenzo Carter DE/OLB Georgia 6045 243 4.76 Sr ?

Round 2/3 Slot?

Anthony Averett, CB/FS/WR Alabama 5115 185 4.43 #28 rSr

Later on

Jamal Peters*, CB, Mississippi State
Andre Chachere, CB, San Jose State
Jaylen Dunlap, CB, Illinois

Have caught my eye on day 3

lee909

11-02-2017 02:52 AM

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Is Will Grier worth a look?

I see he had a issue with a suspension for a over the counter illegal supplemt but back playing. Sounds like he isnt a deep thrower but looking good on the stat sheet this year

8 games, 344YPG, 28TD,9 INT just under 64% accuracy

hagan714

11-02-2017 03:55 AM

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I like the fact Will Grier runs a Pro-Style system and I would surprised to see him come out. OSU game exposed some flaws in his game. Lets see how he does the rest of the way. I like his game

I would tell him to stay if most of WVU stays in school and all the other QBs come out.

He plays well the rest of 2017 and all the hyped QBs come out, he should be a preseason round 1 hyped QB in 2018. That is a lot of money to risk coming out early in such a heavily QB hyped year.

jeanpierre

11-02-2017 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 773572)

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 773592)

The one thing that worries me is his lack of leg size as he has the body of a candied apple...

But he's definitely a dancing bear who could make Rankins a force inside...

hagan714

11-03-2017 03:20 AM

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26. New Orleans Saints (5-2).

Would you?

Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma 6042 254 4.77 #81 rJr

Letting you to opt out on Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap
Savings $3.2 mil in 2018

K Major

11-03-2017 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 773856)

Letting you to opt out on Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap
Savings $3.2 mil in 2018

Or designate him as a post June 1st cut & save 6.5M.

Absolutely no reason to retain his services next year at that price.

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