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Tell you one thing, there's one LSU player that I want to draft, but we'll have to wait till 2018 or 2019 and that's RLB Devin White...
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Opt out dead money goes to $0 for the remaining 2 years of the contract? Opt out & save Savings $3.2M in 2018 Saving $4.8M from 2019 and 2020, available in 2019 For a net cap savings by 2019 of $8.0M Vs Post June 1st cut carries the remaining dead cap for the length of the contract? Post June 1st cut & save Savings $6.5M in 2018 Carrying the dead money .from 2019 and 2020 at $4.8M For a net cap savings by 2020 of $1.7M So by going for Post June 1st in 2018 That $3.3M gain in 2018 would actually drop to $1.7M by 2020 By going the Opt out route Cap gain will be $8.0M by 2019 Thats a cost to us of $6.3M in lost cap space by 2020 for cap space now Put off the $3.3M gain in 2018 and take the $8.0M in 2019 is the way I see it If we are talking a sure fire super bowl run I could see the logic in the Post June 1st cut option. Which I do not see as a logical risk to take next year, It is not working out so well for the pats and they were suppose to be a sure thing this year. Well almost as sure fire as anything can get. Please!!!! :) correct me if I am wrong I would love to get a grip on all these changes to the player contracts rules:confused: |
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I thought a June 1st cut spread the cost over 2 years?
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Having the contract structured in that way gives team greater flexibility in getting contracts under the salary cap... For example, if we moved Armstead, short of him doing a sign and trade, that first season we still take the hit his base of the calender year he's moved, then signing bonus could be accelerated into that year... That's why trades are so difficult outside of the NFL Draft... |
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This is what PFF thinks we need, and it's the first major publication to actually get it right...
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Andrus Peat hasn’t made the tackle-to-guard transition as smoothly as others?
Ok one site says he is elite at guard and now he is a bust? which is it? Larry Warford has been up and down after a solid start to his career. Yeah we knew this before signing him and why a couple of million kept us from signing Kevin Zeitler Oh well, I have a so far so good rating on both. |
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Saints Top Five (5) Draft Needs for 2018 NFL Draft
1. Quarterback - Drew has two years left and now is the perfect window to bring in "that" guy to how the game is played at a high level... 2. Guard - Armstead can't stay healthy, Peat and/or Ramczyk are more than capable at LT; Warford is a stop gap; Kelemete is a high end spot starter... 3. Linebacker - We need more athleticism at the position, but, more importantly, we need smarts, instincts and an ability to play all three LBer spots... 4. Defensive Tackle - Rankins has been good, not great, at least for his draft position; maybe with a rotation he could surge more on his snaps... 5. Tight End - Payton and the Mickster keep thinking if they overspend they can fix a spot; we've got good depth, just not a top of the depth chart Tight End... |
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with a good showing at the post draft beauty shows we could be looking at short list of
Ronnie Harrison SS/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr Carlton Davis CB Aurburn 6012 203 4.53 #6 Jr Josh Jackson CB/WR/FS Iowa 6012 185 4.50 #15 rJr Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State 6032 260 4.78 # 59 rSr Lorenzo Carter OLB/DE Georgia 6045 242 4.73 # 7 Sr Malik Jefferson SLB/MLB/WLB Texas* 6015 238 4.57 #46 Jr Rashaan Evans ILB/OLB Alabama 6021 232 4.73 #32 Sr Tremaine Edmunds OLB/ILB/SS Virginia Tech 6042 236 4.82 #49 Jr Luke Falk, QB, Washington State 6032 214 4.87 #4 rSr Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma 6002 220 4.64 #6 rSr Calvin Ridley WR Alabama 6005 190 4.48 Christian Kirk WR/KR/PR Texas A&M* 5106 200 4.39 #3 Jr Ronald Jones RB/KR USC* 5116 195 4.49 #25 Jr Damien Harris RB Alabama 5096 216 4.55 #34 Jr Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma 6042 254 4.77 #81 rJr Orlando Brown LT Oklahoma 6071 345 5.47 #78 rJr Mitch Hyatt OT/OG Clemson 6052 305 5.08 #75 Jr Frank Ragnow C/OG,Arkansas 6052 319 5.14 #72 Sr Quenton Nelson*, G, Notre Dame 6046 325 5.23 #56 rSo Frank Ragnow a 1/2 as of now? yep he may shock the world on draft day and make people laugh but he is one of the most impressive OL in the draft IMO. Set myself up for a big crow sandwich with Arkansas playing at death valley today. lol So a trade back with a short list like this might just be the Dr Orders the saints need Buyer be ware of off season media hyped darlings. They will test off the charts and pass the eye ball test with ease but their play is highly questionable for 2017. Jerome Baker OLB/ILB Ohio State 6005 225 4.62 #17 Jr Tarvarus McFadden CB Florida State* 6012 198 4.49 #4 Jr A player I am really liking is Carlton Davis CB Aurburn 6012 203 4.53 #6 Jr Passes the quick eye ball check list with ease: Big frame, solid bulk, and long arms. Auburn typically asks Davis to play man coverage. He has the size to battle big wide outs. He is a physical defender with a nice technique at jamming receivers at the line. Davis has the quickness to mirror receivers down field and stay in their hip pocket. He does a good job getting his head around and locating the football. In this these situations, he uses his size to gain position and attack the ball at its highest point. Davis also has the awareness to track tipped passes and get his hands on the pass. He uses his size in run support also. With all that said Davis isn’t often tested without help over the top. He would be a good pairing with Lattimore. If Lattimore stays healthy he has the skill set to man the island and leaving Williams free to to play Pats ball over the top with Davis. As needed. Patriots are master at safety help over the top to shut down WR. But to do it you need am Islander to pull it off. Typically, his style of play would be seen as a defender who has equal right to the ball. It just might be something he needs to adjust when he reaches the next level. There are times where Davis will be a little too physical with the ball in the air. This puts a lot of judgment in the hands of the referees. Some will see the contact and throw the flag while others will see a defender fighting for the football. A bit too physical? Maybe but he is textbook just about every where else. Davis will battle with anyone and not back down. That is a quality I like and he can be coached up as to ways to get away with his style at the next level. I can not wait to see wing measurements. He is a solid tackler to boot. I can see him lined up man on man in the slot as needed with that jam of his. No need to play off the line and in the box. Big test comes today with Georgia coming to town. Auburn is unbeaten at home. |
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He is well worth watching the game to see. He is as solid as they come. So far he is doing a good job at shedding that label of being a "one year wonder" |
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I'm in denial knowing we'll never have a shot at him, but G Quenton Nelson is my favorite of this group...
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There are two, three Wisconsin players I'd love for us to draft...
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Hagan & JP,
Any player(s) ... specifically at the LB position that has your attention or worthy of a high draft pick? IMO Saints need more speed at this position. You know ... a Jonathan Vilma sideline to sideline/impact type prospect. |
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Malik Jefferson SLB/MLB/WLB Texas* 6015 238 4.57 #46 Jr
Is he asked to do to much yet again? I watch him and just do not see him going all out on each and every play Rashaan Evans ILB/OLB Alabama 6021 232 4.73 #32 Sr Is the talent around him allowing him to be more than he really is? Can not argue about his motor Dante Booker OLB/ILB Ohio State 6021 233 4.62 #33 Sr Is leading my mid round picks at LB but I still ponder the pick. Jerome Baker OLB/ILB Ohio State 6005 225 4.62 #17 Jr He is going to blow the pre draft away if the reports of 4.37 40 hold true Then there is the option of going SLB so Klien can move to MLB. I think the FA path is working well and we have yet to see what Gerald Hodges brings to the DA system either I am still convinced the biggest addition the saints can make to improve the LB play is a PROVEN Veteran DT that requires double teams. Offensive lineman are always running free in our second level. That DT would free up team mates on the DL and force teams to use TE and RB to deal with those left with one on one blocking. Thats were my guy comes into play. DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/4 M He already demands double teams at the pro level when dealing with OG and C, even then he is top run defender. I believe he can be had for a good price. We still have KV and Drew to resign. Gotta keep your LB clean. I think the most effective thing for the saints to do is FA with DT and LB. Draft the rest. |
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That said, I know you're a WETSU as well when it comes to the draft, so these are LBers I'm scouting for the 2018 Draft... LB Cameron Smith, USC (JR); Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 245 lbs LB Rashaan Evans, Bama (SR); Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 234 lbs LB Josey Jewell, Iowa (SR); Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 235 lbs *LB Jack Cichy, Wisconsin (SR); Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 233 lbs *Knee injury before start of 2017, former walk-on may take medical redshirt and return for 2018 And thinking out of the box; in today's NFL, I'd consider taking SS Ronnie Harrison, Bama (JR); Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 214 lbs And convert him to an OLB; or, if cap friendly, keep Vaccaro and do the same... Of these guys, USC's Cameron Smith and LSU's Devin White are my two most intriguing Collegiate LBers right now... |
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Already shaping up to be one of the deepest quarterback classes in recent memory...
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I like OU Baker Mayfield ...
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Justin Lawler, Mason Gentry are pretty special...
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Winbush has been impressive in the collegiate ranks, but he seems awfully small, short to play end - same limitation of a younger Darryl Tapp...
Really like Trey Hendrickson progressing as a starter next year and maybe drafting Justin Lawler, or even Mason Gentry... They've just got more size to set the edge... |
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We can use a lot of players, but what about need? I see all of our real needs weighing in at 300 or more pounds.
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Another really good OL will be the cherry on top.
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Bargain basement FA shopping list DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $3/4M Proven run stuffer miscast as a 34 DE Dontae Johnson CB/S 49ers 6021 208 4.45 RD4 2014 $3/4M Has shown promise as a CB/S Aaron Colvin CB Jaguars 5113 177 4.51 Rd4 2014 $3/4M Solid nickle back Chris Hubbard OT/OG Steelers 6034 286 4.95 UDFA $1/2 M Hubbard has played all five positions on the OL Christian Jones OLB/ILB Chicago 6031 249 4.68 $1/2 M Has shown his worth at ILB and a solid back up $11/16M the saints bench would get an infusion of proven youthful talent. |
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