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jeanpierre 02-19-2018 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 792584)
^^^ It appears Leighton (honestly, I'd never heard of him until last month) is rising up the draft boards as of late.

Questions I have are ...

How is his hip movement/change of direction?
Instincts ?
Ability to shed off defenders ?
Sideline to sideline closing speed as a tackler (see Deion Jones/Kuechly)?
Coverage ability in space ?
The big moment will be the three cone at the combine; if it's sub 7.0 sec, you really gotta look at him as our guy, if he lasts that long...

Instincts, reads seems to be there; I still would be happy if we took Bryan and got Josey Jewell moving up in the third round though...

ChrisXVI 02-20-2018 01:22 PM
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WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press

Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder

...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft.

The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him.

..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon."

jeanpierre 02-20-2018 01:28 PM
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ChrisXVI 02-21-2018 09:02 AM
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Mel Kiper’s Mock Draft 2.0 is here. He has the Saints selecting...

New Orleans Saints *Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina

I mentioned Hurst at pick No. 19, and he's trending toward being a Day 1 pick and the first tight end off the board. He's a well-rounded tight end who didn't get a ton of targets in the South Carolina offense. One thing to note: Because Hurst spent a couple of years playing minor league baseball, he will be 25 when he plays his first NFL game. That shouldn't be a demerit, however, as he has the tools to be a premier tight end in the league. New Orleans brought in Coby Fleener in 2016 to try to replace the production of Jimmy Graham, but that didn't work out and the Saints could release him this offseason. Drew Brees needs a No. 1 tight end.

jeanpierre 02-21-2018 09:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 792669)
Mel Kiper’s Mock Draft 2.0 is here. He has the Saints selecting...

New Orleans Saints *Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina

I mentioned Hurst at pick No. 19, and he's trending toward being a Day 1 pick and the first tight end off the board. He's a well-rounded tight end who didn't get a ton of targets in the South Carolina offense. One thing to note: Because Hurst spent a couple of years playing minor league baseball, he will be 25 when he plays his first NFL game. That shouldn't be a demerit, however, as he has the tools to be a premier tight end in the league. New Orleans brought in Coby Fleener in 2016 to try to replace the production of Jimmy Graham, but that didn't work out and the Saints could release him this offseason. Drew Brees needs a No. 1 tight end.
There's value in that he'll be mature, has been in a professional sports situation already; I wouldn't be afraid to spend a second round pick on him, but I'd prefer to use the first round picks on guys who'll give you ten-twelve years...

K Major 02-21-2018 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 792630)
WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press

Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder

...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft.

The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him.

..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon."
That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too.

I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level.

jeanpierre 02-21-2018 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 792672)
That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too.

I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level.
Counter-espionage...

ChrisXVI 02-21-2018 02:21 PM
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Leighton Vander Esch, the next Chad Greenway?

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...-chad-greenway

And just in case anyone wanted to spend a couple minutes watching some great game tape of LVE, I suggest this...

K Major 02-21-2018 04:59 PM
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Leighton Vander Esch ... man IDK, not a popular opinion but I just don't see it at pick #27.

His sideline speed isn't there & appears stiff. He's a BIG dude & tackles well. Mid rounds ? ... maybe.

ChrisXVI 02-21-2018 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 792701)
Leighton Vander Esch ... man IDK, not a popular opinion but I just don't see it at pick #27.

His sideline speed isn't there & appears stiff. He's a BIG dude & tackles well. Mid rounds ? ... maybe.
You’re absolutely right about the sideline-to-sideline speed. Definitely lacking there. Like JP said, his times at the combine will be very important. LVE isn’t really a playmaker... He’s the LB version of a game-manager at QB.

I don’t know, I see the potential but I want a cold-blooded killer. I’m firmly in the Rashaan Evans camp.

K Major 02-22-2018 09:31 AM
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Quick read and analysis on the top LB's entering the draft.

https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-...ebacker-class/

Footnote - 5. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State – Mid-Late Day 2 (I see this as well).

ChrisXVI 02-22-2018 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 792741)
Quick read and analysis on the top LB's entering the draft.

https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-...ebacker-class/

Footnote - 5. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State – Mid-Late Day 2 (I see this as well).
Thanks for sharing that! Loved reading it and it was very informative. It pretty much reaffirmed my belief in Rashaan Evans and Fred Warner. Gotta snag one of those guys in the draft.

Rugby Saint II 02-22-2018 03:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 792741)
Quick read and analysis on the top LB's entering the draft.

https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-...ebacker-class/

Footnote - 5. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State – Mid-Late Day 2 (I see this as well).
The more I read about Vander Esch the less I'm impressed. A lot of people seem to like him here but according to this article he's missing the attributes that we need at LB'er(middle or weak). I haven't seen film on him but this was a good write up.

SmashMouth 02-23-2018 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 790097)
2018 East-West Shrine game watch list

Mississippi State TE Jordan Thomas:
Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech
Justin Lawler, DE, SMU
Tony Adams, G, NC State
Salesi Uhatafe, G, Utah
Joe Ostman, DE Central Michigan
Tarvarius Moore, S Southern Miss
Kyle Queiro, S Northwestern
Deatrick Nichols, CB USF
Cam Serigne, TE Wake Forest
Dalyn Dawkins, RB Colorado State
Kentavius Street, DE North Carolina State
Chucky Williams, FS Louisville
Chad Thomas, DE, Miami
Devante Boyd, WR, UNLV
Ja’Von Rolland-Jones, OLB, Arkansas State
Leon Jacobs, OLB, Wisconsin
Jake Wieneke WR, South Dakota State
Jordan Chunn RB, Troy
Brett Toth T, Army
Jordan Martin DB, Syracuse
Folorunso Fatukasi DT, UConn
K.C. McDermott OL, Miami
Trey Marshall S, Florida State
Godwin Igwebuike S, Northwestern
Hagan's last post.

We'll miss ya, buddy!

K Major 02-26-2018 09:06 PM
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Bump ... red zone weapon? Only knock is that he's 25 (played Pro baseball) but he has soft hands & out runs linebackers/safeties.

jeanpierre 02-26-2018 09:34 PM
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Like Hayden Hurst, just don't like spending a first round pick on him as he's already four years into an NFL career...

halloween 65 02-27-2018 04:02 AM
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If Vea or Payne are sitting there at 27 I would pull the trigger to strenghten the middle for years to come.

ChrisXVI 02-27-2018 10:07 PM
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Here’s my pre-Combine mock draft before things get shaken up in the next week. I’m only going to give explanations for the first two picks.

R1 P27 LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama

We tried to sign Dont’a Hightower, we tried to trade for NaVorro Bowman... Let’s cut the crap and finally get us a beast LB. Evans does it all with incredible athleticism and equally high football IQ. Plug him in the middle and move Klein to full-time Sam LB where he’s better suited.

R3 P27 DE Kemoko Turay, Rutgers

I don’t like any of the edge rushers who are currently projected to be available when we pick in the first round and the free agent crop of DE’s is terrible. Kemoko Turay’s draft stock is all over the place at the moment but it’s been on the rise after a great week of Senior Bowl practices. 6’4”, 252 lbs with incredible explosiveness and agility.

R4 P27 WR Cedrick Wilson, Boise State

R5 P10 G Alex Cappa, Humboldt State

R5 P27 LB Chris Worley, Ohio State

R6 P15 CB Rashaan Gaulden, Tennessee

R6 P27 DE Kylie Fitts, Utah

R7 P27 C Brian Allen, Michigan State

rezburna 02-28-2018 07:39 AM
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I changed my mind. I want Lamar Jackson.

ChrisXVI 02-28-2018 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 793085)
I changed my mind. I want Lamar Jackson.
Always cool to hear a different opinion! What makes you so high on him Rez? Sean Payton could definitely maximize his potential.

K Major 02-28-2018 08:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 793012)
Like Hayden Hurst, just don't like spending a first round pick on him as he's already four years into an NFL career...
Interesting take by Mayock ...

The tight end the Saints draft might not be who you think: Mayock | NOLA.com

Beastmode 02-28-2018 08:13 AM
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Looks like Shockey. Same exact size and high aggression after the catch. I could see it.

K Major 02-28-2018 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 793085)
I changed my mind. I want Lamar Jackson.
Lamar just needs to understand running should be his last option in the NFL. Can he make those throws consistently in the pocket? No clue here. If there is a coach who can polish (see Tony Romo) Lamar up, I think it's Sean P.

Side note - I didn't agree with Bill Polian & his analysis (thinks LJ should switch positions to WR & doesn't have the size to be effective etc). The kid won a Heisman as a QB & he's every bit of 6'3 :rolleyes:.

My concern would be accuracy but the tools are definitely there.

rezburna 02-28-2018 08:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 793086)
Always cool to hear a different opinion! What makes you so high on him Rez? Sean Payton could definitely maximize his potential.
He’s got the speed of Michael Vick, but I’d venture to say he’s better in the open field. He has the ball carrier vision of the elite running backs in the NFL. His elusiveness is something we haven’t really seen at that position outside of a Michael Vick...but he’s a much better passer. He has far better arm talent. Vick was a more powerful passer, but he lacked the touch and accuracy he needed like Kap. His first instinct isn’t to run. He just needs to be coached up on protections and making decisions at the line pre snap. Most QB’s need a touch up in that area. I’m just imaging the offense we’d run with him and Kamara...

Also, he completed 59% of his passes in college, which isn’t spectacular, but his adjusted completion percentage when accounting for throwing the ball away and spikes was over 70%.

ChrisXVI 02-28-2018 10:25 AM
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So here’s a question just to pass the time...

Last year the Chiefs had the same pick as us (27) and they traded up to 10. It cost them #27, their 3rd rounder (#91) and their 2018 1st round pick.

Is there any player you would be willing to make the same trade up for if they were still on the board at #10? Bradley Chubb? Roquan Smith?

K Major 02-28-2018 10:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 793098)
So here’s a question just to pass the time...

Last year the Chiefs had the same pick as us (27) and they traded up to 10. It cost them #27, their 3rd rounder (#91) and their 2018 1st round pick.

Is there any player you would be willing to make the same trade up for if they were still on the board at #10? Bradley Chubb? Roquan Smith?
That is a fair question Chris.

For a fast, instinctive, game changing Day 1 starter at linebacker? Roquan checks a lot of boxes for me & I would do it. No on Chubb.

I think if the Saints front office is high on specific player, they could. Just last year the Saints called 20 NFL teams before they found a trading partner (Niners) in order to select the Alien aka Alvin Kamara.

But on the other hand, I believe Payton is still high on Anzalone. Somehow, we must get faster in the middle. Tampa, Carolina & the Dirty birds have those guys.

jeanpierre 03-01-2018 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 793085)
I changed my mind. I want Lamar Jackson.
Rez, you crack me up - And no cher', I don't agree; he's a one-read option quarterback; league will figure him out fast...

jeanpierre 03-01-2018 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 793098)
So here’s a question just to pass the time...

Last year the Chiefs had the same pick as us (27) and they traded up to 10. It cost them #27, their 3rd rounder (#91) and their 2018 1st round pick.

Is there any player you would be willing to make the same trade up for if they were still on the board at #10? Bradley Chubb? Roquan Smith?
That's too much and it'll take the Chiefs five years to catch up from that overspend...

We should've leaped ahead with two No. 1's and something went down between Stephone Anthony and DA after year 1 and it cost us...

jeanpierre 03-01-2018 04:24 PM
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jeanpierre 03-01-2018 08:15 PM
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jeanpierre 03-01-2018 08:17 PM
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2018 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects (Updated 2018/03/01)

Round 1
No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) SS Justin Reid, Stanford; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 204 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Harrison Phillips, Stanford; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 303 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.

Round 2
No. 59 (R2, 27) Traded this pick with 2017 NFL Draft (R7, 229) to San Francisco via Chicago for Pick 2017 NFL Draft (R3, 67) Pick, Selected RB Alvin Kamara ROTY
No. 59 (R2, 27) C Frank Ragnow, Arkansas; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 319 lbs.
No. 59 (R2, 27) NT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 335 lbs.
No. 59 (R2, 27) WR D.J. Chark; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 196 lbs.
No. 59 (R2, 27) TE Mike Gesicki, Penn St.; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 250 lbs.
No. 59 (R2, 27) QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma St.; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 229 lbs.

Round 3
No. 91 (R3, 27) LB Josey Jewell, Iowa; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 91 (R3, 27) DE Chad Thomas, Miami; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 275 lbs.
No. 91 (R3, 27) FS Armani Watts, Texas A & M; Height: 5' 11"; Weight: 191 lbs.
No. 91 (R3, 27) DT B. J. Hill, NC State; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 331 lbs.
No. 91 (R3, 27) SS Kyzir White, West Virginia; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 216 lbs.

Round 4
No. 127 (R4, 27) LG Alex Cappa, Humboldt St.; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 127 (R4, 27) QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 219 lbs.
No. 127 (R4, 27) RG Colby Gossett, Appalachian St.; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 320 lbs.
No. 127 (R4, 27) SS Trayvon Henderson, Hawaii; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 204 lbs.
No. 127 (R4, 27) TE Dalton Schultz, Stanford; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 242 lbs.

Round 5
No. 147 (R5, 11) Traded LB Stephone Anthony to Miami for this pick
No. 147 (R5, 11) WR Jake Wieneke, South Dakota St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 147 (R5, 11) RB Roc Thomas, Jacksonville St.; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 189 lbs.
No. 147 (R5, 11) TE Troy Fumagalli, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 248 lbs.
No. 147 (R5, 11) CB Kameron Kelly, San Diego St.; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 200 lbs.
No. 147 (R5, 11) LB Fred Warner, BYU; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 227 lbs.

No. 164 (R5, 27) LB Jack Cichy, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 236 lbs. (+)
No. 164 (R5, 27) TE Ryan Izzo, Florida St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 164 (R5, 27) CB M.J. Stewart, UNC; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 164 (R5, 27) OG Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 311 lbs.
No. 164 (R5, 27) LG Cole Madison, Washington; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 314 lbs.

Round 6
No. 189 (R6, 15) Traded RB Adrian Peterson to Arizona for this pick
No. 189 (R6, 15) CB Michael Joseph, Dubuque; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 189 lbs.
No. 189 (R6, 15) LG Taylor Hearn, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 320 lbs.
No. 189 (R6, 15) FS Natrell Jamerson; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 200 lbs.
No. 189 (R6, 15) DE Kylie Fitts, Utah; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 259 lbs. (+)
No. 189 (R6, 15) SS Jarrod Franklin, Tulane; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 205 lbs.

No. 201 (R6, 27) CB Taron Johnson, Weber St.; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 189 lbs.
No. 201 (R6, 27) DE Ade Aruna, Tulane; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 265 lbs.
No. 201 (R6, 27) SS Kyle Queiro, Northwestern; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 219 lbs.
No. 201 (R6, 27) DE Marcell Frazier, Missouri; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 261 lbs.
No. 201 (R6, 27) RB Kalen Ballage, Arizona St.; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 222 lbs.

Round 7
No. 245 (R7, 27) DE Justin Lawler, SMU; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 266 lbs.
No. 245 (R7, 27) WR Trey Quinn, SMU; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 202 lbs.
No. 245 (R7, 27) LB Nick DeLuca, North Dakota St.; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 243 lbs.
No. 245 (R7, 27) SS Cole Reyes, North Dakota; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 216 lbs.
No. 245 (R7, 27) RT Nick Gates, Nebraska; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 295 lbs.

ChrisXVI 03-01-2018 08:56 PM
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Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
Ohio State C Billy Price is believed to have a torn pec, per sources, and is waiting on an MRI to confirm. It happened on his third rep during the bench press at combine today.

jeanpierre 03-02-2018 10:02 AM
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billyt81 03-02-2018 10:57 AM
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Darrius Guice has Deuce McCallister type talent and character. A rare can't miss prospect. He's the best RB in the draft and we can't pass him up at 27. He's better than Sequan Barkley mark my words. A complete player with speed, power and hands. DJ
Chark will be a great NFL WR. Arden Key can rush the passer. Period. Russel Gage can do it all. I see him as a Golden Tate type player. Christian Locotoure-I'm optimistic he can be a good run stuffing DT. Guice and Kmara would give us the best RB duo in NFL history. Chark and Thomas would give us the best WR duo in the league. Key could give us the best DE duo in the league. I do this every year I know. Here's hoping Peyton gets us some Tigers this year.

K Major 03-02-2018 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 793233)
Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
Ohio State C Billy Price is believed to have a torn pec, per sources, and is waiting on an MRI to confirm. It happened on his third rep during the bench press at combine today.
Oh snap. I wonder how far (if any) Billy drops in the draft?

Stud center.

billyt81 03-02-2018 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 793091)
He’s got the speed of Michael Vick, but I’d venture to say he’s better in the open field. He has the ball carrier vision of the elite running backs in the NFL. His elusiveness is something we haven’t really seen at that position outside of a Michael Vick...but he’s a much better passer. He has far better arm talent. Vick was a more powerful passer, but he lacked the touch and accuracy he needed like Kap. His first instinct isn’t to run. He just needs to be coached up on protections and making decisions at the line pre snap. Most QB’s need a touch up in that area. I’m just imaging the offense we’d run with him and Kamara...

Also, he completed 59% of his passes in college, which isn’t spectacular, but his adjusted completion percentage when accounting for throwing the ball away and spikes was over 70%.
Vick lost few games in college and was every bit the runner Lamar Jackson is with a stronger arm. Heck as a freshman he led the nation in passing efficiency. If Vick played in a spread offense like Jackson? Besides Taysom Hill might be faster than both of them plus he weighs 225 and has a strong arm too. I think he's gonna get a shot to be the backup QB this year and Brees successor in 3 years after Brees sets every NFL passing record which make no mistake he intends to do. We won't draft Lamar Jackson.

jeanpierre 03-02-2018 11:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 793278)
Oh snap. I wonder how far (if any) Billy drops in the draft?

Stud center.
But do guys ever really recover from that kind of tear?

Most pectoral tears take more than a year to recover, and that's with very regimented post-op physical therapy...

jeanpierre 03-02-2018 02:27 PM
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I really hope we keep Jeff Ireland and make him our GM before he leaves...

SmashMouth 03-02-2018 07:14 PM
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jeanpierre 03-03-2018 06:27 AM
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2018 New Orleans Saints Mock Draft

Round 1
No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.

Can play Defensive End or Defensive Tackle and has one of the quickest first steps into the opponents backfields in the draft...

My twin man crush is

No. 27 (R1, 27) LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 245 lbs.

But I'm thinking he's not gonna be there, and he's who I'd really want...

Kind of a stretch for SS Justin Reid, but did the Coleman signing make that mute, or is it a smokescreen? Saints are good for that...

If DT Harrison Phillips, Stanford is on the board here, you grab him as while he's a hair slower than Bryan, he's a man-mauler along the defensive line...

The luxury pick here would be TE Dallas Goedert, who would quickly rise as a star with Brees and open up third down and Red Zone options with @CantGuardMike on the other side; my only problem is do we do the JG divorce again in five years; when I spend a first round pick, I want him for 8-10 years minimum...

Round 2
No. 59 (R2, 27) Traded this pick with 2017 NFL Draft (R7, 229) to San Francisco via Chicago for Pick 2017 NFL Draft (R3, 67) Pick, Selected RB Alvin Kamara ROTY

Would love to sign Norwell, kick Peat to LT full-time, and move Armstead and transition this guy behind Unger

C Frank Ragnow, Arkansas; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 319 lbs.

Round 3
No. 91 (R3, 27) LG Braden Smith, Auburn; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 303 lbs.
alt No. 91 (R3, 27) LB Josey Jewell, Iowa; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 236 lbs.
alt No. 91 (R3, 27) DT B. J. Hill, NC State; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 331 lbs.

Round 4
No. 127 (R4, 27) LG Alex Cappa, Humboldt St.; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 309 lbs.
or No. 127 (R4, 27) RG Colby Gossett, Appalachian St.; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 320 lbs.

Is there a piece we could move to get another fourth rounder? No. 127 (R4, 27) TE Dalton Schultz, Stanford; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 242 lbs.

Round 5
No. 147 (R5, 11) Traded LB Stephone Anthony to Miami for this pick
No. 147 (R5, 11) WR Dylan Cantrell, Texas Tech; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 212 lbs.
No. 147 (R5, 11) RB Roc Thomas, Jacksonville St.; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 189 lbs.

Either would boost their respective units into the NFL's elite...

No. 164 (R5, 27) LB Jack Cichy, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 236 lbs. (+)

This is my sneaky pick of the draft; he has elite read/react skills, but will he be available or is his injury a fluke?

Otherwise No. 164 (R5, 27) TE Ryan Izzo, Florida St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 245 lbs. will be one of the steals of the draft...

Round 6
No. 189 (R6, 15) Traded RB Adrian Peterson to Arizona for this pick
No. 189 (R6, 15) CB Michael Joseph, Dubuque; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 189 lbs. would be a stash and develop pick; raw with all the physical ability in the world; would love AG to develop this guy...


No. 201 (R6, 27) CB Taron Johnson, Weber St.; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 189 lbs. would be a ditto for this CB as well and would give us unparalleled depth at the most prized position behind QB in the NFL...

Round 7
No. 245 (R7, 27) DE Justin Lawler, SMU; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 266 lbs. won't test well, but some guys can just play football and with an added fifteen pounds of NFL-trained muscle could spell and develop on Cam's side...

But I'd love to have that slot WR at No. 245 (R7, 27) WR Trey Quinn, SMU; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 202 lbs., but can't spend higher on a guy who won't get the grade and only has one year against questionable CBs...


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