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Decisions, decisions.

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Chris, thanks for this post and I'd like to expound on this if I may.

Edmunds appears to be a freak (size, range, speed) but honestly if he doesn't have the instincts, it really doesn't matter because if you are that big and strong moving in the wrong direction, what exactly does that do for us?

Over the years, I'm really starting to notice that when evaluating at the LB position, instincts should be FIRST, speed, size second. I think this could possibly be a reason what got Stephone Anthony over drafted :rolleyes:. If you review SA college tape, you couldn't tell he was a 4.57 runner (red flag) out of the gate. When kids times faster than they look on their tape ... I'm curious to know what's up. Generally, it possibly indicates that their process is slow but in a B line, he's Carl Lewis.

I'm looking at guys whose tape looks fast. Deion Jones was fast at LSU, Kuechly at BC, Vilma at Miami, Wagner at Utah St etc.

Thoughts?

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A good Mike LB prospect that could be had in the middle rounds:

Chris Worley, OLB, Ohio State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2018): 4-6

He went to Glenville High School in Cleveland just like Marshon Lattimore, Ted Ginn Jr and Justin Hardee. We could continue the pipeline.

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Uhhhmmmm.......what no Teo?

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Yeah I'd rather keep Teo than Mauti or Stupar.

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Crusader, you're absolutely right about Teo' and I didn't mean to leave him out. This was a really good FA signing. Quality depth and he was a dawg against the run.

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I have no problem admitting Teo' exceeded all expectations I had for him. I honestly thought he'd be injured and cut by the end of camp. Glad to be pleasantly surprised.

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Round 1

Not there yet

Round 2 = Alvin Kamara Trade 49ers

Round 3

Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr

Round 4

Levi Wallace CB Alanama 5111 185 4.42 #39 Sr

Round 5 = Stephone Anthony Trade Miami

Fred Warner DE/OLB BYU 6025 228 4.68 #4 Sr
Marcus Baugh TE Ohio State 6041 250 4.84 #85 rSr

Round 6 = Adrian Peterson trade Cardnials

Davontae Harris CB/FS Illinois St 5111 200 4.50 #10 Sr
Chris Worley ILB OSU 6015 230 4.67 #35 rSr

Round 7 = Jalen Saunders Trade Patriots?

Ranthony Texada CB/KR TCU 5095 176 4.30 #11 rSr

Top UDFA
Ike Boettger OT/TE Iowa 6046 307 5.02 #75 rSr
Coleman Shelton C/OG Washington 6041 293 5.08 rSr
Jamal Morrow, RB, Washington State 5085 180 4.54 #25 rSr
Ethan Wolfe TE Tennessee 6045 245 4.86 #82 Sr
Jaylen Dunlap FS/CB/SS Illinois 6002 190 4.45 #1 rSr
Deion Harris CB North Dakota 6015 182 4.50 #19 Sr
Austin Golson C/OG/OT Auburn 6043 312 5.23 #73 rSr
Jamar Summers CB/FS Connecticut 5116 185 4.44 #21 Sr

Will he or wont he come out?
?Jamal Peters S/CB Mississippi State 6016 218 4.55 #2 Jr ?

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Tuesday’s East-West Shrine Game team interviews...

New Orleans Saints

Virginia Tech CB Greg Stroman
Tennessee TE Ethan Wolf
Northern Iowa WR Darius Fountain
USF DT Deadrin Senat
Oklahoma State S Tre Flowers
Sam Houston State QB Jeremiah Briscoe
Wagner OT Greg Senat

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R1P27 TE MARK ANDREWS OKLAHOMA

R3P27 S KYZIR WHITE WEST VIRGINIA

R4P27 WR DAESEAN HAMILTON PENN STATE

R5P10 LB CHRIS WORLEY OHIO STATE

R5P27 CB DARIUS PHILLIPS WESTERN MICHIGAN

R6P15 DL DEADRIN SENAT SOUTH FLORIDA

R6P27 CB GREG STROMAN VIRGINIA TECH

R7P27 LB GARRET DOOLEY WISCONSIN

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Kyzir White ... he's an enforcer that's for sure.

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DREAMING or SPECULATING

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Do you think the saints will go TE in round 1?
A more traditional TE at that?
I would be shocked.
not like that has not happened before

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That’s just kind of the way that particular mock draft fell. It’s going to be tough snagging one of the top TE’s in the draft without a 2nd round pick. I’m not sure if Gesicki or Goedert will last until the end of the 3rd round. Maybe Fumagalli, but I don’t want to move off taking Kyzir White in the 3rd.

All of this could just be solved by signing Cameron Brate in free agency.

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Mel Kiper’s latest mock draft released today has us taking...

27 New Orleans Saints Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
Drew Brees is 39, and the Saints just made a playoff run with one of the most productive rookie classes in recent history. This is a team built to win right now. Sutton is a huge 6-4 matchup nightmare who could play opposite budding superstar Michael Thomas. He was inconsistent at times for the Mustangs, but he's a big play-threat who averaged at least 16 yards per catch over the past three seasons. New Orleans could have some receiver turnover with Brandon Coleman and Willie Snead both restricted free agents.

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With all the traditional TE in the draft I would be some what shocked if the saints went this route.

Later in the draft round 5 or so i still like

Marcus Baugh TE Ohio State 6041 250 4.84 #85 rSr

Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU? Drew throws to spots and Sutton is not the most disciplined route runner by any stretch of the imagination.

I am thinking more on the lines of a saints short at 27 will look like this for the saints

Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State 6036 235 4.77 #2 Sr
He needs to sit and learn. I see another first round rush on QB again this year. He might be great trade bait also.

Da’Ron Payne DL Alabama 6012 308 5.38 #94 Jr
What a show he was allowed to put on in the playoffs. Saban made this kid some serious money

Christian Kirk WR/KR/PR Texas A&M* 5106 200 4.39 #3 Jr
SP loves his toys but does he fall into the Cooks trap once again? I like Kirk more than Cooks coming out of college.

Sam Hubbard SDE OSU 6045 265 4.86 #6 rJr
DE is still up in the air and he is a beast against the run with solid gap responsibility as a pass rusher. He is not going to speed rush anyone. He will swim and stunt them to death. Which I like. I hate wide swooping DE pass rush. They miss and they are out of the play all together. They end up selling popcorn in the stands.

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Saints will replicate 2017 draft's success.

See who falls to #27 & take the best player available :bng: .

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I'm still not over what happened and for that reason, I'm hating all this draft and offseason talk

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We have had good luck with players that have dropped into our laps this late in the draft.

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Understood but 31 other teams will be disappointed at the end of the season :argue:.

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I spent about 1 day being disappointed... then I reflected back on when we started 0-2, I wrote off the season completely and thought 7-9 was a stretch. To think about how far we came, how young we are and how many injuries we had to overcome, it was a great season.

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^^^ THIS ^^^

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I know what you mean, just the way we were so close to have it all snatched away is heartbreaking. Haven't been able to stop thinking about for days!

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Courtesy of Draft Analyst, here are some Shrine Game practices winners that we could target in the middle to late rounds:

Deadrin Senat/DT/South Florida: The only person who as able to stop Deadrin Senat was in fact Deadrin Senat, the few times he wore down over the course of practice. It was understandable, as he hadn’t been in pads for almost a month. When fully energized, Senat showed a complete game; he was quick, explosive, powerful and fundamentally sound. He easily held the point against double-team blocks, collapsed the pocket in man-on-man battles and beat opponents with pure power as well as quick hands. Graded as a late-round pick entering the year, Senat has moved into the middle rounds. Keep an eye on the Buffalo Bills or Kansas City Chiefs during draft weekend.

Chris Worley/LB/Ohio State: I was impressed with Worley on film and even more impressed watching him live at Shrine practice. He’s tough and explosive yet also smart and disciplined. He was a demon in blitz drills, a force against the run and held his own in coverage drills. He’s a New York Giants-type of linebacker and would be a good pickup for the team on the draft’s final day.

DaeSean Hamilton/WR/Penn State: Hamilton had a “wow” type of week. He ran great routes every day, separated from quicker, speedier cornerbacks and caught everything in sight. He won out for contested passes, grabbed receptions in the open field and consistently caught the ball with his hands away from his frame. He was also superb in blocking drills. Hamilton is not fast but is very polished in all areas of his game.

Daurice Fountain/WR/Northern Iowa: Speed was not an issue for Fountain, and neither was catching the ball. Fountain caught the ball very well, except he was doing it at full speed, down the field and running past defenders. I was also impressed by his feistiness and willingness to compete. He leaves Shrine week with a draft grade a full round higher than the one he arrived with in St. Petersburg.

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If we could get Darius Guice, the best RB in the draft, mark my words, late in the first round, we'd have the grestest RB duo in NFL history. Arden Key in the 2nd gives us the best pass rush DEs in the NFL. DJ Chark in the 3rd and we've got a big speedster who compliments Mike Thomas perfectly. Christian Locotoure is a big, tough NT we'd be lucky to get in the 4th.

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Not enough LSU players on your draft list (sarcasm).

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BTW, we already have the best RB duo in all of the NFL ;).

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2018 East-West Shrine game watch list

Mississippi State TE Jordan Thomas:
Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech
Justin Lawler, DE, SMU
Tony Adams, G, NC State
Salesi Uhatafe, G, Utah
Joe Ostman, DE Central Michigan
Tarvarius Moore, S Southern Miss
Kyle Queiro, S Northwestern
Deatrick Nichols, CB USF
Cam Serigne, TE Wake Forest
Dalyn Dawkins, RB Colorado State
Kentavius Street, DE North Carolina State
Chucky Williams, FS Louisville
Chad Thomas, DE, Miami
Devante Boyd, WR, UNLV
Ja’Von Rolland-Jones, OLB, Arkansas State
Leon Jacobs, OLB, Wisconsin
Jake Wieneke WR, South Dakota State
Jordan Chunn RB, Troy
Brett Toth T, Army
Jordan Martin DB, Syracuse
Folorunso Fatukasi DT, UConn
K.C. McDermott OL, Miami
Trey Marshall S, Florida State
Godwin Igwebuike S, Northwestern

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NFL just stay right there while we RELOAD...

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East-West Shrine Game in the books...

Five NFL draft prospects who helped themselves at Shrine Game - NFL.com

Daurice Fountain, WR, Northern Iowa

Fountain was the most explosive receiver all week during practice and his explosiveness was evident in the game, as well. He finished with three catches for a game-high 61 yards and had a 30-yard punt return, too. Unfortunately, he made a costly drop toward the end of the game, but he generated some big plays for the East team. I love what he did running after the catch. He reminds me of the Rams' Pharoh Cooper, who made the Pro Bowl this season as a kick returner.

Kentavius Street, DE, N.C. State

Street had a great week of practice and the best get-off of any lineman in the game. The stats won't bear it out, but he was very disruptive on Saturday. He did a lot of his damage coming off the edge, which adds to his value, but I think he'll end up rushing from the inside once he gets to the next level. He's a strong guy, but his game is more about his quickness. He was a little bit overshadowed playing on the same D-line with the more highly touted Bradley Chubb at N.C. State, but Street made the most of his opportunity in the spotlight at the Shrine Game.

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