Brees is done

K Major · 11-11-2019, 11:15 PM

Josh G made a couple of nice plays too.

I'm not sold on this so called "scary" Niners bunch. We knew there would be a game where Jimmy G would have to win it with his arm and he failed.

I wouldn't sleep on Seattle. Niners will lose possibly 2, 3 more games within the next month and they gotta come to the dome.

dizzle88 · 11-12-2019, 03:51 AM

What was made evident to me last night was the 9ers are league above us and I think the Seahawks are better now.

Both teams were ultra physical and actually looked for different players to throw to. 9ers and Hawks got every receiver and TE involved.

Imagine the damage the 9ers will do to our O line, when we just allowed 6 sacks and put up 9 points to the defense who only had 7 sacks in 10 weeks.

yungbreesus · 11-12-2019, 09:30 AM

It's unlikely that Brees is done. But Sunday proved that playing Brees Ball isn't going to win us games. By that I mean the pass heavy approach isn't how this team is built any more. A lot of this is on Sean, but I also think it's possible Drew is checking out of run plays because he himself is not acclimated to the changes that came about during the stretch of Teddy. Having Murray and Kamara only run 9 times combined is a recipe for disaster and worst of all, totally unnecessary.

I also fear Drew is too hung up on his personal stats to make sound decisions for the team. Obviously not all the time, but you can clearly see that he's trying to do too much at times. I wanted to puke when he was trying to force a garbage TD at the end of that game. I was legit physically ill. Not just because we were risking injury for nothing, but also the fact that we showed we can't score in that position. If we have to play an important game that comes down to our last possession, teams now have more tape on what we look like when we're desperate in the red zone.

The good news is that most of these problems can be fixed. Sean and Drew just need to get their heads screwed on straight and realize that the Teddy formula is the future of this team, even if Drew is under center.

st thomas · 11-12-2019, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by yungbreesus

It's unlikely that Brees is done. But Sunday proved that playing Brees Ball isn't going to win us games. By that I mean the pass heavy approach isn't how this team is built any more. A lot of this is on Sean, but I also think it's possible Drew is checking out of run plays because he himself is not acclimated to the changes that came about during the stretch of Teddy. Having Murray and Kamara only run 9 times combined is a recipe for disaster and worst of all, totally unnecessary.

I also fear Drew is too hung up on his personal stats to make sound decisions for the team. Obviously not all the time, but you can clearly see that he's trying to do too much at times. I wanted to puke when he was trying to force a garbage TD at the end of that game. I was legit physically ill. Not just because we were risking injury for nothing, but also the fact that we showed we can't score in that position. If we have to play an important game that comes down to our last possession, teams now have more tape on what we look like when we're desperate in the red zone.

The good news is that most of these problems can be fixed. Sean and Drew just need to get their heads screwed on straight and realize that the Teddy formula is the future of this team, even if Drew is under center.

I just couldn’t believe him looking deep when we needed 5- 7 yards not enough screens to back the pressure off. It had to be they didn’t want AK using his cuts to much just straight ahead running mostly to protect his bad legs.

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voodooido · 11-12-2019, 06:03 PM

I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years.

Rsanders24 · 11-12-2019, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years.

Drew should have had over 300 yards...he threw the ball 45 times! The middle of our line was the weakest link, especially after Peat got hurt. Armstead might have been responsible for one sack and that was because they collapsed the pocket keeping Brees from being able to step up. The entire line played bad overall even Ram allowed a sack. If you think we are better off without Armstead then you might have lost a few IQ points. He is one of the best LTs in the game.

Play action didn’t fool anyone because they didn’t run the ball! This was on Brees and Payton with the play calling and audibles.

Rueben Mayes · 11-12-2019, 07:02 PM

start the cliche counter here Who Dats...

since I have heard this on a few occasions by some pundits I do agree with it and I am trying to use it to help cope with such a poor showing in the Dome...

"The NFL is a week to week league"....so true.

Also, "Any Given Sunday" applies here I think and should serve as a reminder to our beloved Saints that because a loss can happen on any given Sunday ya gotta get up for each and every one of the 16 games that are played unless you clinch early and then it might be permissible to altar your team's strategy(resting starters, etc.)

K Major · 11-13-2019, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes

start the cliche counter here Who Dats...

since I have heard this on a few occasions by some pundits I do agree with it and I am trying to use it to help cope with such a poor showing in the Dome...

"The NFL is a week to week league"....so true.

Also, "Any Given Sunday" applies here I think and should serve as a reminder to our beloved Saints that because a loss can happen on any given Sunday ya gotta get up for each and every one of the 16 games that are played unless you clinch early and then it might be permissible to altar your team's strategy(resting starters, etc.)

This ^^^ .

voodooido · 11-13-2019, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Drew should have had over 300 yards...he threw the ball 45 times! The middle of our line was the weakest link, especially after Peat got hurt. Armstead might have been responsible for one sack and that was because they collapsed the pocket keeping Brees from being able to step up. The entire line played bad overall even Ram allowed a sack. If you think we are better off without Armstead then you might have lost a few IQ points. He is one of the best LTs in the game.

Play action didn’t fool anyone because they didn’t run the ball! This was on Brees and Payton with the play calling and audibles.

You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT.

K Major · 11-13-2019, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT.

He is voodooido. You can count the bad games with TA on one hand. Armstead along with Ramz have locked up premier pass rushers all season, but the sky is now falling after the ATL game? No excuses on the flu bug but it was painfully obvious that he was not himself. He's elite at LT.

It's football. Good teams can lose on any given Sunday.

Meanwhile Clapp is a "back up" for a reason.

11-11-2019, 11:15 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees is done Josh G made a couple of nice plays too. I'm not sold on this so called "scary" Niners bunch. We knew there would be a game where Jimmy G would have to win it with his arm and he failed. I wouldn't sleep on Seattle. Niners will lose possibly 2, 3 more games within the next month and they gotta come to the dome. jnormand and Rueben Mayes like this.

11-12-2019, 03:51 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Brees is done What was made evident to me last night was the 9ers are league above us and I think the Seahawks are better now. Both teams were ultra physical and actually looked for different players to throw to. 9ers and Hawks got every receiver and TE involved. Imagine the damage the 9ers will do to our O line, when we just allowed 6 sacks and put up 9 points to the defense who only had 7 sacks in 10 weeks.

11-12-2019, 09:30 AM	#3
yungbreesus Registered Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 56	Re: Brees is done It's unlikely that Brees is done. But Sunday proved that playing Brees Ball isn't going to win us games. By that I mean the pass heavy approach isn't how this team is built any more. A lot of this is on Sean, but I also think it's possible Drew is checking out of run plays because he himself is not acclimated to the changes that came about during the stretch of Teddy. Having Murray and Kamara only run 9 times combined is a recipe for disaster and worst of all, totally unnecessary. I also fear Drew is too hung up on his personal stats to make sound decisions for the team. Obviously not all the time, but you can clearly see that he's trying to do too much at times. I wanted to puke when he was trying to force a garbage TD at the end of that game. I was legit physically ill. Not just because we were risking injury for nothing, but also the fact that we showed we can't score in that position. If we have to play an important game that comes down to our last possession, teams now have more tape on what we look like when we're desperate in the red zone. The good news is that most of these problems can be fixed. Sean and Drew just need to get their heads screwed on straight and realize that the Teddy formula is the future of this team, even if Drew is under center. jnormand, Rueben Mayes and SaintGnome like this.
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11-12-2019, 06:29 PM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by yungbreesus It's unlikely that Brees is done. But Sunday proved that playing Brees Ball isn't going to win us games. By that I mean the pass heavy approach isn't how this team is built any more. A lot of this is on Sean, but I also think it's possible Drew is checking out of run plays because he himself is not acclimated to the changes that came about during the stretch of Teddy. Having Murray and Kamara only run 9 times combined is a recipe for disaster and worst of all, totally unnecessary. I also fear Drew is too hung up on his personal stats to make sound decisions for the team. Obviously not all the time, but you can clearly see that he's trying to do too much at times. I wanted to puke when he was trying to force a garbage TD at the end of that game. I was legit physically ill. Not just because we were risking injury for nothing, but also the fact that we showed we can't score in that position. If we have to play an important game that comes down to our last possession, teams now have more tape on what we look like when we're desperate in the red zone. The good news is that most of these problems can be fixed. Sean and Drew just need to get their heads screwed on straight and realize that the Teddy formula is the future of this team, even if Drew is under center. I just couldn’t believe him looking deep when we needed 5- 7 yards not enough screens to back the pressure off. It had to be they didn’t want AK using his cuts to much just straight ahead running mostly to protect his bad legs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Audiotom and yungbreesus like this.

11-12-2019, 06:03 PM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Brees is done I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years. jnormand and Audiotom like this.
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11-12-2019, 06:52 PM	#6
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by voodooido I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years. Drew should have had over 300 yards...he threw the ball 45 times! The middle of our line was the weakest link, especially after Peat got hurt. Armstead might have been responsible for one sack and that was because they collapsed the pocket keeping Brees from being able to step up. The entire line played bad overall even Ram allowed a sack. If you think we are better off without Armstead then you might have lost a few IQ points. He is one of the best LTs in the game. Play action didn’t fool anyone because they didn’t run the ball! This was on Brees and Payton with the play calling and audibles. Rugby Saint II, st thomas and Audiotom like this.

11-12-2019, 07:02 PM	#7
Rueben Mayes 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 134	Re: Brees is done start the cliche counter here Who Dats... since I have heard this on a few occasions by some pundits I do agree with it and I am trying to use it to help cope with such a poor showing in the Dome... "The NFL is a week to week league"....so true. Also, "Any Given Sunday" applies here I think and should serve as a reminder to our beloved Saints that because a loss can happen on any given Sunday ya gotta get up for each and every one of the 16 games that are played unless you clinch early and then it might be permissible to altar your team's strategy(resting starters, etc.) Danno, leilung, Budsdrinker and 4 others like this.
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11-13-2019, 07:10 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes start the cliche counter here Who Dats... since I have heard this on a few occasions by some pundits I do agree with it and I am trying to use it to help cope with such a poor showing in the Dome... "The NFL is a week to week league"....so true. Also, "Any Given Sunday" applies here I think and should serve as a reminder to our beloved Saints that because a loss can happen on any given Sunday ya gotta get up for each and every one of the 16 games that are played unless you clinch early and then it might be permissible to altar your team's strategy(resting starters, etc.) This ^^^ .

11-13-2019, 10:25 AM	#9
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Drew should have had over 300 yards...he threw the ball 45 times! The middle of our line was the weakest link, especially after Peat got hurt. Armstead might have been responsible for one sack and that was because they collapsed the pocket keeping Brees from being able to step up. The entire line played bad overall even Ram allowed a sack. If you think we are better off without Armstead then you might have lost a few IQ points. He is one of the best LTs in the game. Play action didn’t fool anyone because they didn’t run the ball! This was on Brees and Payton with the play calling and audibles. You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT.
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11-13-2019, 10:39 AM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by voodooido You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT. He is voodooido. You can count the bad games with TA on one hand. Armstead along with Ramz have locked up premier pass rushers all season, but the sky is now falling after the ATL game? No excuses on the flu bug but it was painfully obvious that he was not himself. He's elite at LT. It's football. Good teams can lose on any given Sunday. Meanwhile Clapp is a "back up" for a reason. Rsanders24, ChrisXVI and Audiotom like this.

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