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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal Nobody is "picking" a model. You used an outdated one. And no, the reason the numbers are going down is NOT because of people staying indoors. They were making projections, factoring that in, of how many ...

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Old 04-07-2020, 06:17 PM   #11
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Re: Do you see a 2020 season happening?

Originally Posted by burningmetal View Post
Nobody is "picking" a model. You used an outdated one. And no, the reason the numbers are going down is NOT because of people staying indoors. They were making projections, factoring that in, of how many would be infected and how many would die, based on nothing more than a glorified guess of how many people had come into contact with the virus before the stay at home orders started. They way overestimated the extent of how much it had already spread. And as such, they have cut their numbers in half.

You don't get to go back in time and use the doomsday models that fit your narrative. THAT is "picking" a model.

And how are asymptomatic carriers going to spread anything AFTER the stay at home is over? Even though I highly object to the decision to close everything, due to the massive economic impact, isn't the point of a quarantine supposed to be to let whoever has the virus either get well from home, or in the hospital, while everyone else who isn't sick doesn't get exposed? I don't see how people are going to emerge in great numbers carrying the virus.

My thing is that we're already seeing that most people who get the virus are going to be able to beat it without any problem. So if anyone is going to be quarantined, it should be the elderly and those with underlying health conditions. Let everyone else build the "herd immunity" while keeping the economy flowing. But I think even FORCING at risk people to quarantine is a violation of constitutional rights. Let them choose what risks they want to take.
The only reason I picked the models was to show to what extent the virus would spread. The numbers I used didn't match either model. If you think the virus is going to die off in the spring, you are making a completely false assumption. The rate of transfer is much too high, this isn't influenza which has a sub 1 R0. The whole handwashing, surface cleaning,etc...those aren't even close to being primary infection pathways...there's not even a lot of evidence to suggest those are true pathways to infection.People are actually cleaning to a great extent, which probably doesn't even help a whole lot. It's mainly just breathing air. It will still be transferred via droplets. The humidity and heat may slow down aerosolized transfer quite a bit. The rate of transfer will still be high(higher than 1.5 at the very least). The summer months aren't going to stop air to air contact. I'm not overthinking ****, you are under thinking. The CDC has little to no input on what the government is saying right now, if they did they would be saying something completely different. They've pretty much been sidelined throughout the entire process.

I'm going to remember this thread though so I can come back to it later on.
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