Saints Draft Days Official Thread

04-25-2020, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

hey ask Guido to review rankins and ellis numbers and see if they're damn near identical or not?

Chill, spkb25. Read on.

ChrisXVI · 04-25-2020, 05:02 PM

Still have the 7th round to go but some good players still available that I hope we have a shot at as UDFA’s...

WR Isaiah Hodgins (Oregon St)
WR KJ Hill (Ohio St)
WR Quartney Davis (Texas A&M)
DT Benito Jones (Ole Miss)
LB Markus Bailey (Purdue)

Edit: Scratch Isaiah Hodgins off the list.

FinSaint · 04-25-2020, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

But the speed of the game and competition matter bro, let's not pretend it doesn't. Thats just being dishonest. The NFL is every best college player from each team. It is elite of elite. That said Steve MCNAIR did it as a QB from what like Alcorn or some ****. I never said it was only due to the competition but let's not pretend his numbers would not have been impacted had he played at Alabama, let's say. Either way he can ball, let's see what happens. I dont happen to think he will have a problem, but if you're expecting 80 grabs rookie season you're way off. Plus NFL run complex playbooks. If he has 30 to 49 catches with 7 to 10 this that will be a great rookie season

Look, I was only stating that the one time he had a chance to go against the best of the best in the Senior Bowl - he was up for the challenge.

Certainly it would would have helped his development if he had gone against the highest level competition week in and week out, not to mention working with staff those programs attract, but it seems like he made the best out of his particular situation.

Audiotom · 04-25-2020, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Why are people still crying. With the lack of a proper off season and the roster being as stacked as it is the chances of later picks making this year especially are limited.

Seems some people just want to whinge if no LSU player get Drafted, they don't trade back or trade up.

Look at the draft for the last 3 seasons, these people have a damn good idea what they are doing. And there's still plenty of vets out there to fill any holes

Not to mention rookie udfa walk ons

many who might have been their 4 5 6

Saints usually have someone rise to the occasion in the walk on department

Deonta Harris anyone?

ChrisXVI · 04-25-2020, 05:41 PM

DE Kenny Willekes still out there too.

papz · 04-25-2020, 05:42 PM

I would like to see us sign Stephen Sullivan WR/TE. He showed himself very well during the Senior Bowl week and makes an intriguing red zone guy if he can be developed. Very good downfield blocker.

ChrisXVI · 04-25-2020, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

DE Kenny Willekes still out there too.

Never mind, Vikes just took him. I gotta be honest here... it’s not shaping up to be a great UDFA class.

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Never mind, Vikes just took him. I gotta be honest here... it’s not shaping up to be a great UDFA class.

How do you know that? All it takes are the right one or two to make the 90 man roster.

Is there an outside chance, Chris, that they might have identified a few that you were not aware of? I am sure you are all in on the research, but I'm sure you realize that NFL franchises have full staffs with hands on access to ascertain the possible UDFA field.

Not busting your nuts, but maybe a little.

ChrisXVI · 04-25-2020, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How do you know that? All it takes are the right one or two to make the 90 man roster.

Is there an outside chance, Chris, that they might have identified a few that you were not aware of? I am sure you are all in on the research, but I'm sure you realize that NFL franchises have full staffs with hands on access to ascertain the possible UDFA field.

Not busting your nuts, but maybe a little.

Could be... I’m just talking more in terms of mid-round prospects surprisingly falling to the ranks of the undrafted. This year’s undrafted class will consist of players I really don’t know anything about. I’m excited though to find some true diamonds in the rough.

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2020, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Could be... I’m just talking more in terms of mid-round prospects surprisingly falling to the ranks of the undrafted. This year’s undrafted class will consist of players I really don’t know anything about. I’m excited though to find some true diamonds in the rough.

Could be those mid-round prospects were identified as that by those not truly making the calls in the past. Lots less in depth info on prospects these days. That said, at this point, nobody outside of the scouts have a real clue at this point.

04-25-2020, 04:59 PM	#1021
Threaded by AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by spkb25 hey ask Guido to review rankins and ellis numbers and see if they're damn near identical or not? Chill, spkb25. Read on.
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04-25-2020, 05:02 PM	#1022
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Still have the 7th round to go but some good players still available that I hope we have a shot at as UDFA’s... WR Isaiah Hodgins (Oregon St) WR KJ Hill (Ohio St) WR Quartney Davis (Texas A&M) DT Benito Jones (Ole Miss) LB Markus Bailey (Purdue) Edit: Scratch Isaiah Hodgins off the list.

04-25-2020, 05:06 PM	#1023
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by spkb25 But the speed of the game and competition matter bro, let's not pretend it doesn't. Thats just being dishonest. The NFL is every best college player from each team. It is elite of elite. That said Steve MCNAIR did it as a QB from what like Alcorn or some ****. I never said it was only due to the competition but let's not pretend his numbers would not have been impacted had he played at Alabama, let's say. Either way he can ball, let's see what happens. I dont happen to think he will have a problem, but if you're expecting 80 grabs rookie season you're way off. Plus NFL run complex playbooks. If he has 30 to 49 catches with 7 to 10 this that will be a great rookie season Look, I was only stating that the one time he had a chance to go against the best of the best in the Senior Bowl - he was up for the challenge. Certainly it would would have helped his development if he had gone against the highest level competition week in and week out, not to mention working with staff those programs attract, but it seems like he made the best out of his particular situation.

04-25-2020, 05:26 PM	#1024
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by lee909 Why are people still crying. With the lack of a proper off season and the roster being as stacked as it is the chances of later picks making this year especially are limited. Seems some people just want to whinge if no LSU player get Drafted, they don't trade back or trade up. Look at the draft for the last 3 seasons, these people have a damn good idea what they are doing. And there's still plenty of vets out there to fill any holes Not to mention rookie udfa walk ons many who might have been their 4 5 6 Saints usually have someone rise to the occasion in the walk on department Deonta Harris anyone?

04-25-2020, 05:41 PM	#1025
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread DE Kenny Willekes still out there too.

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04-25-2020, 05:42 PM	#1026
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread I would like to see us sign Stephen Sullivan WR/TE. He showed himself very well during the Senior Bowl week and makes an intriguing red zone guy if he can be developed. Very good downfield blocker.

04-25-2020, 05:48 PM	#1027
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by ChrisXVI DE Kenny Willekes still out there too. Never mind, Vikes just took him. I gotta be honest here... it’s not shaping up to be a great UDFA class.

04-25-2020, 05:55 PM	#1028
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Never mind, Vikes just took him. I gotta be honest here... it’s not shaping up to be a great UDFA class. How do you know that? All it takes are the right one or two to make the 90 man roster. Is there an outside chance, Chris, that they might have identified a few that you were not aware of? I am sure you are all in on the research, but I'm sure you realize that NFL franchises have full staffs with hands on access to ascertain the possible UDFA field. Not busting your nuts, but maybe a little. ChrisXVI likes this.

04-25-2020, 06:01 PM	#1029
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How do you know that? All it takes are the right one or two to make the 90 man roster. Is there an outside chance, Chris, that they might have identified a few that you were not aware of? I am sure you are all in on the research, but I'm sure you realize that NFL franchises have full staffs with hands on access to ascertain the possible UDFA field. Not busting your nuts, but maybe a little. Could be... I’m just talking more in terms of mid-round prospects surprisingly falling to the ranks of the undrafted. This year’s undrafted class will consist of players I really don’t know anything about. I’m excited though to find some true diamonds in the rough. AsylumGuido likes this.

04-25-2020, 06:12 PM	#1030
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Could be... I’m just talking more in terms of mid-round prospects surprisingly falling to the ranks of the undrafted. This year’s undrafted class will consist of players I really don’t know anything about. I’m excited though to find some true diamonds in the rough. Could be those mid-round prospects were identified as that by those not truly making the calls in the past. Lots less in depth info on prospects these days. That said, at this point, nobody outside of the scouts have a real clue at this point. ChrisXVI likes this.