Jameis Winston 1 yr deal

saintsfan1976 · 04-27-2020, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Their defense was 15th in total yards and 1st against the run, but sure you can have a dishonest premise using points against. Of course you should then understand that Winston is largely responsible for those points against throwing TDs for the other team and giving the opposing team great starting position.

Also
3rd in the league in points scored on offense
11th in sacks (47!) three more and they're top 5
17th interceptions
8th in fumbles lost

So, now we've got a bunch of statistics to help tell whatever version of the truth we want...

rezburna · 04-28-2020, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Their defense was 15th in total yards and 1st against the run, but sure you can have a dishonest premise using points against. Of course you should then understand that Winston is largely responsible for those points against throwing TDs for the other team and giving the opposing team great starting position.

And they were the 30th ranked pass defense. Quick...name a TB defensive back.

24th ranked rushing defense too. 23rd ranked offensive line I think?

SmashMouth · 04-29-2020, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

And they were the 30th ranked pass defense. Quick...name a TB defensive back.

24th ranked rushing defense too. 23rd ranked offensive line I think?

Can we name their LBs? Yes, mostly from LSU.

AsylumGuido · 04-28-2020, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Their defense was 15th in total yards and 1st against the run, but sure you can have a dishonest premise using points against. Of course you should then understand that Winston is largely responsible for those points against throwing TDs for the other team and giving the opposing team great starting position.

They were 1st against the run because they were so horrible against the pass (29th) that teams didn't attempt to run as much against them. 4th fewest rushing attempts against in the league.

blackangold · 04-28-2020, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They were 1st against the run because they were so horrible against the pass (29th) that teams didn't attempt to run as much against them. 4th fewest rushing attempts against in the league.

15th in total yards... put whatever other spin you want on it.

TheOak · 04-28-2020, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Tampa wasn’t a serious threat because of Winston, they had talent all over the field and are now considered SB contenders without Winston there...

What language is that, is my translation is close?

~ Where ever Tom Brady takes snaps is considered a SB contender.

vpheughan · 04-28-2020, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

What language is that, is my translation is close?

~ Where ever Tom Brady takes snaps is considered a SB contender.

Like Unitas in San Diego and Namath in LA!

K Major · 04-27-2020, 12:20 PM

Bucs "SB contenders" now? … lol.

Old man Brady will become a sitting duck for NFC pass rushers.

Audiotom · 04-30-2020, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Bucs "SB contenders" now? … lol.

Old man Brady will become a sitting duck for NFC pass rushers.

For nfc south pass rushers

And no fluff ACFE division

SmashMouth · 04-30-2020, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Bucs "SB contenders" now? … lol.

Old man Brady will become a sitting duck for NFC pass rushers.

What's the over/under on sacking Tom Brady this year?

04-27-2020, 08:33 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by blackangold Their defense was 15th in total yards and 1st against the run, but sure you can have a dishonest premise using points against. Of course you should then understand that Winston is largely responsible for those points against throwing TDs for the other team and giving the opposing team great starting position. Also 3rd in the league in points scored on offense 11th in sacks (47!) three more and they're top 5 17th interceptions 8th in fumbles lost So, now we've got a bunch of statistics to help tell whatever version of the truth we want... Halo likes this.

04-28-2020, 10:27 AM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,020	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by blackangold Their defense was 15th in total yards and 1st against the run, but sure you can have a dishonest premise using points against. Of course you should then understand that Winston is largely responsible for those points against throwing TDs for the other team and giving the opposing team great starting position. And they were the 30th ranked pass defense. Quick...name a TB defensive back. 24th ranked rushing defense too. 23rd ranked offensive line I think?

04-29-2020, 07:29 AM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by rezburna And they were the 30th ranked pass defense. Quick...name a TB defensive back. 24th ranked rushing defense too. 23rd ranked offensive line I think? Can we name their LBs? Yes, mostly from LSU.

04-28-2020, 10:48 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by blackangold Their defense was 15th in total yards and 1st against the run, but sure you can have a dishonest premise using points against. Of course you should then understand that Winston is largely responsible for those points against throwing TDs for the other team and giving the opposing team great starting position. They were 1st against the run because they were so horrible against the pass (29th) that teams didn't attempt to run as much against them. 4th fewest rushing attempts against in the league. saintsfan1976, rezburna and RefsRobbedUs like this.

04-28-2020, 07:36 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They were 1st against the run because they were so horrible against the pass (29th) that teams didn't attempt to run as much against them. 4th fewest rushing attempts against in the league. 15th in total yards... put whatever other spin you want on it.

04-28-2020, 05:31 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by blackangold Tampa wasn’t a serious threat because of Winston, they had talent all over the field and are now considered SB contenders without Winston there... What language is that, is my translation is close? ~ Where ever Tom Brady takes snaps is considered a SB contender.

04-28-2020, 09:30 AM	#7
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by TheOak What language is that, is my translation is close? ~ Where ever Tom Brady takes snaps is considered a SB contender. Like Unitas in San Diego and Namath in LA!
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04-27-2020, 12:20 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,796 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Bucs "SB contenders" now? … lol. Old man Brady will become a sitting duck for NFC pass rushers.

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Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by K Major Bucs "SB contenders" now? … lol. Old man Brady will become a sitting duck for NFC pass rushers. For nfc south pass rushers And no fluff ACFE division

04-30-2020, 01:41 PM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by K Major Bucs "SB contenders" now? … lol. Old man Brady will become a sitting duck for NFC pass rushers. What's the over/under on sacking Tom Brady this year?