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jeanpierre 02-03-2021 10:15 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
One thing really likable about Shane Buechele, he can throw multiple arm angles and he throws the ball to the side of the WR opposite the DB...

Oh, the other thing - he's very, very smart...

jeanpierre 02-03-2021 10:15 AM
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jeanpierre 02-03-2021 10:17 AM
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K Major 02-03-2021 10:20 AM
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Outside of QB, I think the Saints need to draft another CB.

Jack Rabbit is still good, however he's older and of course we have Latt.

After those two, it gets really "iffy" on those boundaries.

jeanpierre 02-03-2021 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913863)
Outside of QB, I think the Saints need to draft another CB.

Jack Rabbit is still good, however he's older and of course we have Latt.

After those two, it gets really "iffy" on those boundaries.
And we can't afford him...

Rugby Saint II 02-03-2021 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 913866)
And we can't afford Them...
FIFY

jeanpierre 02-03-2021 07:54 PM
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jeanpierre 02-04-2021 08:05 AM
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lee909 02-05-2021 01:39 PM
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A few on the mocks around

Lance Zierlein - Tyson Campbell, CB - Georgia - 6'2/185lb

Bucky Brooks - Trevon Moehrig · S

Ryan Golsing Pro football network - Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue

CBS Ryan Wilson - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - Notre Dame - LB

CBS Chris Trapasso -Zaven Collins - Tulsa - LB

CBS - Josh Edwards - Mac Jones - Alabama - QB

ESPN - New Orleans Saints - Trevon Moehrig - S - TCU

NBC - Terrace Marshall, Jr., W, LSU

rezburna 02-05-2021 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 913859)
I like Horn. He fit the style we play.

Love Moehrig at safety too.

K Major 02-05-2021 02:54 PM
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Jevon Holland - S

Oregon

Slightly undersized (6-190) but he's good in coverage. Could drop to the 2nd round.

ChrisXVI 02-05-2021 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913971)
Jevon Holland - S

Oregon

Slightly undersized (6-190) but he's good in coverage. Could drop to the 2nd round.
To some he’s the top safety in the draft. I don’t know how it’s going to go for players who opted out last season when there’s no combine or private workouts leading up to this draft.

jeanpierre 02-05-2021 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913971)
Jevon Holland - S

Oregon

Slightly undersized (6-190) but he's good in coverage. Could drop to the 2nd round.
Some scouts are grading him higher than Trevon Moehrig - who I really like...

AsylumGuido 02-05-2021 04:47 PM
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Since I have no impact on who we end up taking I'll just wait and find out when it happens. I never get pissed off that the guy I thought they should pick wasn't picked. It makes the draft so much more enjoyable I would imagine.

rezburna 02-05-2021 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 913973)
Some scouts are grading him higher than Trevon Moehrig - who I really like...
What linebackers you like?

K Major 02-05-2021 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 913976)
What linebackers you like?
Good NFL pro prospect right here.

I love Kwon but he probably won't be back. Saints need some young dawgs + DD is one year older. I appear to be a broken record, but sign me up for fast sideline to sideline guys who arrive with bad intentions. See Tampa Bay.

ChrisXVI 02-05-2021 06:27 PM
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Speaking of LB’s, Jabril Cox is almost a Kwon Alexander clone. I’m not sold on Missouri’s Nick Bolton yet.

K Major 02-05-2021 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 913981)
Speaking of LB’s, Jabril Cox is almost a Kwon Alexander clone.
Cox? The kid who played for the LSU Tigers last fall? Saints won't touch him, just like last year with Patrick Queen.

All I know is at the end of the day, 6 former Tigers will be playing in the Super Bowl on Sunday evening. Hopefully the Saints scouts get the memo that there are some difference makers in Baton Rouge we should take a serious look at in the 2021 draft.

ChrisXVI 02-07-2021 06:22 PM
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I’m fairly certain the team plans on Zack Baun being the starting Mike LB next season. Payton stated after the draft that they envisioned him playing that role and they gave him a whole season to learn and make that transition.

Forget about a LB in the first round.

jeanpierre 02-10-2021 09:50 AM
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saintsfan1976 02-10-2021 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 913977)
Good NFL pro prospect right here.

I love Kwon but he probably won't be back. Saints need some young dawgs + DD is one year older. I appear to be a broken record, but sign me up for fast sideline to sideline guys who arrive with bad intentions. See Tampa Bay.

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah || Notre Dame Linebacker || 2020 Highlights - YouTube
K Major, I’ve been saying it I joined the forum - a linebacker with range this year, PLEASE!! Kwon was arguably the piece that helped our defense most last season. Watching Levonte and Devin in the Super Bowl (and previous SF and SEA teams) made me envious!

jeanpierre 02-10-2021 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 913976)
What linebackers you like?
I'd be real happy if, in the second/third round, we landed one of these guys to play opposite DeMario Davis:
(In no particular order)
  • Jabril Cox, LSU - terrific coverage LBer who can even match up on slot receivers, as well as RBs and TEs; yeah, I know, he's LSU...

  • Chazz Surratt, UNC - recruited as an ATH-QB, smart guy, reads fast and has athleticism to make it happen, create turnovers...

  • Dylan Moses, Bama - dilemma with Bama players is their depth and who's coasting off others; he looks the goods...

Have been trying to go back and find solid film, this year is going to be difficult to stack because of the #WuhanPandemic f'ing everything; but I was looking forward to these guys this year...

jeanpierre 02-10-2021 10:15 AM
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Can see us making this pick...

K Major 02-10-2021 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 914292)
TCU Safety name comes up again ….Kenny V played in NO for 4 seasons, now Marcus would be on season #4 as well.

If Marcus Williams is leaves (Free agent), I wonder if Trevon Moehrig would be that guy at Free safety on the Saints short list in the 1st round?

K Major 02-10-2021 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 914293)
Watching Levonte and Devin in the Super Bowl (and previous SF and SEA teams) made me envious!
76,

I agree 100%. It's a shame Kwon couldn't stay healthy though. He was a bright spot alongside DD the minute he suited up game 1.

Devin Smith is an absolute stud for Tampa. We need one in New Orleans.

It will be interesting to see how Baun is used in season #2.

Boston Saint 02-10-2021 10:45 AM
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If history has shown us anything about Saints drafts, a LB (especially from LSU) will not be chosen in the first round. All through Payton’s tenure, they’ve had a total of one drafted first IIRC.

K Major 02-10-2021 10:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 914294)
I'd be real happy if, in the second/third round, we landed one of these guys to play opposite DeMario Davis:
(In no particular order)

Jabril Cox, LSU - terrific coverage LBer who can even match up on slot receivers, as well as RBs and TEs; yeah, I know, he's LSU...
Facts.

I watch LSU more than most and what I've seen is that he has good hips/change of direction. Match up nightmare for TE's & can cover.

Not to mention he "fits" the 4-3 scheme. Coach "O" had nothing but praise for him as a player & sees him as an "immediate impact player" at the next level.

A lot of LSU players transition well to the NFL. IMO he's worth a serious 1st round look.

Rugby Saint II 02-10-2021 01:57 PM
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OK, so it needs to be O-line, Cox or a FS. It will change before the actual draft I'm sure.

K Major 02-10-2021 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 914322)
OK, so it needs to be O-line, Cox or a FS. It will change before the actual draft I'm sure.
Yep.

Just last year I didn't Ruiz coming & McCoy the year before.

Good talking points though :D.

Rugby Saint II 02-10-2021 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 914324)
Yep.

Just last year I didn't Ruiz coming & McCoy the year before.

Good talking points though :D.
I always plan on them drafting for the trenches in the first round. It's been their MO for quite a few years now.

jeanpierre 02-10-2021 09:02 PM
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Sean may want to rethink his not taking LSU players, especially linebackers...

Budsdrinker 02-11-2021 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 914336)
Sean may want to rethink his not taking LSU players, especially linebackers...

https://twitter.com/LSUfootball/stat...77458958680064
Don't think we could have drafted him faster than the 5th overall pick like the Bucs got him with. And just out of curiosity, which LSU linebackers were the Saints in position to draft and didn't?

K Major 02-11-2021 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 914361)
Don't think we could have drafted him faster than the 5th overall pick like the Bucs got him with. And just out of curiosity, which LSU linebackers were the Saints in position to draft and didn't?
2020 draft Patrick Queen. 65 solo total tackles/40 assisted/3 sacks/2 FF and 1 INT. Very good production in his rookie season for Baltimore.

We selected (I'm not complaining) Ruiz instead.

st thomas 02-11-2021 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 914362)
2020 draft Patrick Queen. 65 solo total tackles/40 assisted/3 sacks/2 FF and 1 INT. Very good production in his rookie season for Baltimore.

We selected (I'm not complaining) Ruiz instead.

Speed at lb is a must. White were in every picture , near every tackle, on every play thru out the playoffs except Washington I believe and into to S bowl. What does Payton and mick don’t get. Love triangle with Fabio/ Thor slash bust well 3 rder can’t say that we fail often on those


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neugey 02-11-2021 11:33 AM
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Having 2 LB's that can run like greyhounds and being able to match an offense's speed in the nickel more easily is now going to be the new meta in the NFL. The fast LB's out of college are going to be in high demand now. The Vander Esch's aren't going to fall in the draft like they used to.

st thomas 02-11-2021 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 914364)
Speed at lb is a must. White were in every picture , near every tackle, on every play thru out the playoffs except Washington I believe and into to S bowl. What does Payton and mick don’t get. Love triangle with Fabio/ Thor slash bust well 3 rder can’t say that we fail often on those


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Also the saints defense lost there mojo when quon went down. I would take a LSU LB that didn’t start or played second fiddle to stacked players over there. There built on speed and cover always have been.,but I don’t know diddily squat. Offensively we were in trouble before the season began. People talk about Drew didn’t have that eye of the tiger. I never responded to the few that were saying this but may have had something going. Not the commander on the field? I just can’t finger it. Maybe when MT went down he knew it was gonna be a beotch season.


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jeanpierre 02-11-2021 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 914366)
Also the saints defense lost there mojo when quon went down. I would take a LSU LB that didn’t start or played second fiddle to stacked players over there. There built on speed and cover always have been.,but I don’t know diddily squat. Offensively we were in trouble before the season began. People talk about Drew didn’t have that eye of the tiger. I never responded to the few that were saying this but may have had something going. Not the commander on the field? I just can’t finger it. Maybe when MT went down he knew it was gonna be a beotch season.


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...not according to some folks - we were just fine with Anzalone...

jeanpierre 02-11-2021 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 914361)
Don't think we could have drafted him faster than the 5th overall pick like the Bucs got him with. And just out of curiosity, which LSU linebackers were the Saints in position to draft and didn't?
In DW's case, True.

Was making a humourous (and truthful) reference of the perception (ongoing joke here) that they're have been LSU and LBer options (and LSU LBers) on the draft board in second, third rounds...

Those were usually traded a way because of regular moving up in the draft...

jeanpierre 02-11-2021 05:26 PM
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And for what it's worth, I'm on board with the BPA - but I'd prefer either a CB or OT at the end of the first round...

ChrisXVI 02-12-2021 07:58 AM
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Matt Miller, formerly of Bleacher Report, has launched his own draft website and his first mock draft is free for non-subscribers. Here’s the link...

https://www.thedraftscout.com/p/the-draft-scout-mock-10

Here’s what he has the Saints doing and I think we’d be very pleased:

28. New Orleans Saints- LB Jabril Cox, LSU
Analysis: Barring a massive trade and a lot of assets trading hands, the Saints head into the offseason without an expected starting quarterback.

With no quarterbacks on the board who can become the replacement to Drew Brees, the Saints are likely to rely on the return of Jameis Winston and Taysom Hill to solve the quarterback position.

So where do you go with pick No. 28 overall? You address the defense.

Jabril Cox was hard to miss at LSU thanks to his 6’4”, 245 pound frame and ability as a lockdown coverage linebacker when matched up against tight ends and backs. He shined once again during Senior Bowl week and secured his position as a Round 1 talent.

The former North Dakota State star has the athletic tools, coverage traits and instincts the NFL craves for linebackers.

60. New Orleans Saints
The Pick: CB Elijah Molden, Washington
Previous Pick: LB


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