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SmashMouth 03-27-2021 09:43 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917135)
28. New Orleans Saints: Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse
The Saints have let go of several players this offseason, including cornerback Janoris Jenkins. With their first-round selection, the sim has New Orleans taking his replacement in Ifeatu Melifonwu. A rare physical specimen with salivating movement skills, pairing him with Marcus Lattimore could be fearsome.

Not bad... Can Mac Jones slip to round 2 or 3?

What QBs are coming out next year worth a chit?

ChrisXVI 03-27-2021 10:10 AM
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So I知 assuming the first three picks go:

1. Jags- QB Trevor Lawrence
2. Jets- QB Zach Wilson
3. 49ers- QB Justin Fields

The Failclowns are sitting there at 4 with their choice of any non-QB in the draft. Just imagine if they took Kyle Pitts.

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 917180)
28. New Orleans Saints: Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse
The Saints have let go of several players this offseason, including cornerback Janoris Jenkins. With their first-round selection, the sim has New Orleans taking his replacement in Ifeatu Melifonwu. A rare physical specimen with salivating movement skills, pairing him with Marcus Lattimore could be fearsome.

Not bad... Can Mac Jones slip to round 2 or 3?

What QBs are coming out next year worth a chit?
I'd rather go LBer, DT3, RT and target Stanford CB Paulson Adebo in the 3rd round; start the season with P-Rob/P.J. opposite Lattimore, if he's available...

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 917185)
So I知 assuming the first three picks go:

1. Jags- QB Trevor Lawrence
2. Jets- QB Zach Wilson
3. 49ers- QB Justin Fields

The Failclowns are sitting there at 4 with their choice of any non-QB in the draft. Just imagine if they took Kyle Pitts.
They're going Penei Sewell at that point and giving Ryan a full 0.5 sec more per play; if they don't trade back some and grab a CB1...

K Major 03-27-2021 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917190)
I'd rather go LBer, DT3, RT and target Stanford CB Paulson Adebo in the 3rd round; start the season with P-Rob/P.J. opposite Lattimore, if he's available...
If the Saints bring in TJ Carrie & ultimately sign him, I think that would spell the end of PRob in New Orleans.

TJ is much more of a slot guy than boundary corner.

AsylumGuido 03-27-2021 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917157)
At first I didn't read that as "shiftiest".

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 917198)
At first I didn't read that as "shiftiest".
Watch the video, and you'll feel sillier...

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 03:14 PM
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Okay, this was on Draft Network Mock with no trades...

Rounds One and Two couldn't have been better, securing immediate starters for CB2 and WLB (Demario to the Mike)...

Tylan Wallace nearly fell to me in round 3, taken five picks earlier; an immediately plug 'n play WRz...

But was thrilled to find Hunter Long just sitting there - a huge get; makes those TE-jumbo packages exciting...

Tyler Shelving is terrific value for a dominating NT1; massive, young, athletic NT for the next four years on a rookie contract...

Jaelan Darden would provide depth behind Deonte Harris; could see lining them up on opposite sides of the field for WR-Double-Bubble-Option packages - had to do it...

Josh Ball could be ready in a season at RT - perfect project for Zach Strief to mentor, unload Terron Armstead's contract, unavailability issues...

Tyler Coyle would be a steal at SS; makes Jenkins expendable by mid-season...

https://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albu...icture1425.jpg

ChrisXVI 03-27-2021 03:25 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917206)
Okay, this was on Draft Network Mock with no trades...

Rounds One and Two couldn't have been better, securing immediate starters for CB2 and WLB (Demario to the Mike)...

Tylan Wallace nearly fell to me in round 3, taken five picks earlier; an immediately plug 'n play WRz...

But was thrilled to find Hunter Long just sitting there - a huge get; makes those TE-jumbo packages exciting...

Tyler Shelving is terrific value for a dominating NT1; massive, young, athletic NT for the next four years on a rookie contract...

Jaelan Darden would provide depth behind Deonte Harris; could see lining them up on opposite sides of the field for WR-Double-Bubble-Option packages - had to do it...

Josh Ball could be ready in a season at RT - perfect project for Zach Strief to mentor, unload Terron Armstead's contract, unavailability issues...

Tyler Coyle would be a steal at SS; makes Jenkins expendable by mid-season...

https://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albu...icture1425.jpg
I could die a happy man JP! That draft would be incredible. You know I love Newsome and DeMario looked great last season at Mike when Kwon was at Will so plugging in Cox at Will would be fantastic.

ChrisXVI 03-27-2021 03:41 PM
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I took a 3 round spin on it and here痴 what I did...

28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia)

60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU)

98. DT Jay Tufele (USC)

105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt)

I知 still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I知 not a know-it-all.

Boston Saint 03-27-2021 04:26 PM
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I doubt Payton will avoid drafting an offensive player for the first three rounds. It痴 just not his nature.

ChrisXVI 03-27-2021 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 917209)
I doubt Payton will avoid drafting an offensive player for the first three rounds. It痴 just not his nature.
Absolutely right. At this point our first round pick pretty much has to be CB. After that, I could see WR and TE being in the mix on day 2.

AsylumGuido 03-27-2021 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 917210)
Absolutely right. At this point our first round pick pretty much has to be CB. After that, I could see WR and TE being in the mix on day 2.
"We" have no clue right now what our picks have to be or might possibly be. We'll all find out when the draft actually happens. I guess I can kind of understand how y'all get into this pre-draft stuff. It keeps you involved. It's your version of off-season fantasy football.

As an old fart I'm not into wishing time moves faster, but whenever the draft does happen I'll be watching and hoping that every pick works out.

To make it interesting for me, Chris, I'll bet you that our first pick won't be a CB. :D

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 05:05 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 917208)
I took a 3 round spin on it and here痴 what I did...

28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia)

60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU)

98. DT Jay Tufele (USC)

105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt)

I知 still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I知 not a know-it-all.
Like Patrick Jones alot as well - he'd be a great fit behind Cam next season...

jeanpierre 03-27-2021 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 917210)
Absolutely right. At this point our first round pick pretty much has to be CB. After that, I could see WR and TE being in the mix on day 2.
We could still take a CB2 in Round 2 or 3, so I'd qualify your argument that we'd take a CB2 with a Day 1 or early Day 2 pick - 100%...

Wouldn't be surprised if we actually trade back into Round 2 and pick up some more quality depth and perhaps another starter...

Sean has a tendency of not doing the obvious because he hates being predictable, even if it's in the team's best interest...

AsylumGuido 03-27-2021 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917215)
We could still take a CB2 in Round 2 or 3, so I'd qualify your argument that we'd take a CB2 with a Day 1 or early Day 2 pick - 100%...

Wouldn't be surprised if we actually trade back into Round 2 and pick up some more quality depth and perhaps another starter...

Sean has a tendency of not doing the obvious because he hates being predictable, even if it's in the team's best interest...
Perhaps those that are actually doing the drafting has the team's best interest different than yours, JP.

Could be. Just saying.

SmashMouth 03-27-2021 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917215)
We could still take a CB2 in Round 2 or 3, so I'd qualify your argument that we'd take a CB2 with a Day 1 or early Day 2 pick - 100%...

Wouldn't be surprised if we actually trade back into Round 2 and pick up some more quality depth and perhaps another starter...

Sean has a tendency of not doing the obvious because he hates being predictable, even if it's in the team's best interest...
Even if it means NOT picking an LSU player who can help better than a talent from another school.

SmashMouth 03-27-2021 10:21 PM
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jeanpierre 03-27-2021 10:32 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 917185)
So I知 assuming the first three picks go:

1. Jags- QB Trevor Lawrence
2. Jets- QB Zach Wilson
3. 49ers- QB Justin Fields

The Failclowns are sitting there at 4 with their choice of any non-QB in the draft. Just imagine if they took Kyle Pitts.
Not sold on Pitts that high - getting deja vu of Vernon Davis...

lee909 03-27-2021 11:18 PM
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I really do wonder how some of these mock simulators work lol

Round 1 Pick 31 (K.C.): Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina
Round 2 Pick 31 (K.C.): Jabril Cox, ILB/OLB, LSU
Round 3 Pick 15 (L.V.): Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington
Round 3 Pick 16 (L.V.): Quinn Meinerz, OG/C, Wisconsin-Whitewater
Round 3 Pick 34 (COMP): Victor Dimukeje, DE/OLB, Duke
Round 3 Pick 41 (COMP): Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State
Round 5 Pick 4 (ATL): Josh Imatorbhebhe, WR/TE, Illinois
Round 5 Pick 38 (ATL): Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse
Round 6 Pick 33 (COMP): Noah Gray, TE, Duke

jeanpierre 03-28-2021 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 917237)
I really do wonder how some of these mock simulators work lol

Round 1 Pick 31 (K.C.): Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina
Round 2 Pick 31 (K.C.): Jabril Cox, ILB/OLB, LSU
Round 3 Pick 15 (L.V.): Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington
Round 3 Pick 16 (L.V.): Quinn Meinerz, OG/C, Wisconsin-Whitewater
Round 3 Pick 34 (COMP): Victor Dimukeje, DE/OLB, Duke
Round 3 Pick 41 (COMP): Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State
Round 5 Pick 4 (ATL): Josh Imatorbhebhe, WR/TE, Illinois
Round 5 Pick 38 (ATL): Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse
Round 6 Pick 33 (COMP): Noah Gray, TE, Duke
IF these were among our first four choices:

jeanpierre 03-28-2021 11:30 AM
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jeanpierre 03-29-2021 12:19 AM
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jeanpierre 03-29-2021 06:18 PM
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K Major 03-29-2021 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917376)
2016 "The" Ohio State draft class ... 4+ seasons later they are all studs & big time players in this league.

jeanpierre 03-30-2021 09:19 AM
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SmashMouth 03-30-2021 09:45 AM
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K Major 03-30-2021 10:00 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917399)
I'm a big fan of Elijah Moore. Good hands, playmaker in the slot.

4.3 was his 40 time and his game day tape supports that. Day 2 guy that may help a team right away. Not the biggest WR but he's a SEC dawg.

Side note - CB Caleb Farley from VA Tech. Was not able to work out due to recent back procedure however many scouts see him as a 1st round talent. Some say he's the best CB in this class. I'll be curious to see if he falls in the draft due to his medical.

jeanpierre 03-30-2021 11:03 PM
Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917404)
I'm a big fan of Elijah Moore. Good hands, playmaker in the slot.

4.3 was his 40 time and his game day tape supports that. Day 2 guy that may help a team right away. Not the biggest WR but he's a SEC dawg.

Side note - CB Caleb Farley from VA Tech. Was not able to work out due to recent back procedure however many scouts see him as a 1st round talent. Some say he's the best CB in this class. I'll be curious to see if he falls in the draft due to his medical.
Farley falls to us, Sean Payton will ignore the medicals and just go...

K Major 03-31-2021 08:33 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 917441)
Farley falls to us, Sean Payton will ignore the medicals and just go...

https://youtu.be/0CPJ-AbCsT8?t=128
Risky as hell. Especially in the 1st round.

Maybe we go LEFT TACKLE (eventual successor for Armsteaad) at pick #28 :p ??

K Major 03-31-2021 09:37 AM
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Today is LSU's Pro Day ... 3/31/2021

Notable names ....

Jabrill Cox - LB
Tyler Shelvin - DB
Terrance Marshall Jr- WR
Jamarr Chase - WR
Karey Vincent Jr - DB
Jacoby Stevens - DB

LSU homer glasses off here ... the entire Saints front office need to make that quick trip to Baton Rouge and spot interview/check out their footwork speed etc for confirmation.

LSU players continue to transition well to the NFL, every single year.

Cox, Marshall, & even Stevens could help us on Sundays.

K Major 03-31-2021 09:48 AM
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Jacoby Stevens - DB LSU

Mid round grades, has range, tackles well in space & has good change of direction. Proven performer against the best in the SEC. Malcolm Jenkins is at the end of his career ... we could use another SS.

jeanpierre 03-31-2021 10:39 AM
Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 917451)
Risky as hell. Especially in the 1st round.

Maybe we go LEFT TACKLE (eventual successor for Armsteaad) at pick #28 :p ??
Figured Ramczyk likely will succeed the LT spot - This year I'd trade with one of the teams with a young QB, get a next year 1st and a R2 this year for Armstead...

jeanpierre 03-31-2021 10:42 AM
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jeanpierre 03-31-2021 10:44 AM
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jeanpierre 03-31-2021 10:44 AM
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jeanpierre 03-31-2021 10:49 AM
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jeanpierre 03-31-2021 10:54 AM
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ChrisXVI 03-31-2021 11:15 AM
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Jeff Ireland is at Notre Dame痴 pro day today.

jeanpierre 03-31-2021 11:20 AM
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