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jeanpierre 03-22-2021 07:42 PM
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jeanpierre 03-22-2021 07:51 PM
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jeanpierre 03-23-2021 06:18 AM
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Actually prefer LSU LBer Jabril Cox in Round 2 anyways...

K Major 03-23-2021 10:09 AM
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Asante Samuel Jr - CB ... yes, his father also played CB at a high level in the league. Possibly a nickel corner in the NFL.

Scored a 6.42 RAS out of the possible 10. This ranks him 625 out of 1744 CB from 1987 - 2021. He measured out at 5'10 / 180 ... kind of "smallish", will need more bulk - see Greedy Williams.

Rugby Saint II 03-23-2021 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 916822)
Classic Ruggs. Word on the street! Is that Sesame Street?!!-😁
I heard it on the corner of Sesame Street and Bourbon Street.

papz 03-23-2021 12:23 PM
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I've been thinking that if Najee Harris fell into our laps and we became a run first team, I wouldn't be mad at it. Kamara and Najee all day long. I think not only does it help out Jameis, it can hide our deficiencies at WR/TE while allowing our OL to do what OL like to do most... maul people.

Looking at the roster outlook in the other thread, our depth defensively is concerning. An elite running game can help mask that as well. I'm glad we got all these compensation picks.

K Major 03-23-2021 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 916866)
I've been thinking that if Najee Harris fell into our laps and we became a run first team, I wouldn't be mad at it. Kamara and Najee all day long. I think not only does it help out Jameis, it can hide our deficiencies at WR/TE while allowing our OL to do what OL like to do most... maul people.
You like Harris over Etienne (Clemson) as well ? Etienne & AK together would seem like a nightmare too. His initial burst is so impressive to me.

But Najee is a dawg though ... and big. The way he can break tackles is incredible. Most Bama RB's show up on Sundays.

I'm really curious to see who we take at pick #28.

papz 03-23-2021 12:58 PM
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Yea I like Harris over Etienne more due to the fact he's a contrast to AK as you pointed out. They'd compliment each other a lot better IMO.

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 916866)
I've been thinking that if Najee Harris fell into our laps and we became a run first team, I wouldn't be mad at it. Kamara and Najee all day long. I think not only does it help out Jameis, it can hide our deficiencies at WR/TE while allowing our OL to do what OL like to do most... maul people.

Looking at the roster outlook in the other thread, our depth defensively is concerning. An elite running game can help mask that as well. I'm glad we got all these compensation picks.
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916868)
You like Harris over Etienne (Clemson) as well ? Etienne & AK together would seem like a nightmare too. His initial burst is so impressive to me.

But Najee is a dawg though ... and big. The way he can break tackles is incredible. Most Bama RB's show up on Sundays.

I'm really curious to see who we take at pick #28.
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Yea I like Harris over Etienne more due to the fact he's a contrast to AK as you pointed out. They'd compliment each other a lot better IMO.
Only one flaw in y'all's theory - Sean has to run the damn ball...

jeanpierre 03-23-2021 05:01 PM
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jeanpierre 03-23-2021 05:11 PM
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Mac Jones Bama ProDay Numbers...

Nothing on the hand size?

lee909 03-23-2021 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916876)
Only one flaw in y'all's theory - Sean has to run the damn ball...
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lee909 03-23-2021 05:17 PM
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Mac Jones Bama ProDay Numbers...

Nothing on the hand size?

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...82258573230084
From senior bowl
Both of his hands rounded out at about 10 inches (9 6/8″)

https://tdalabamamag.com/2021/01/26/...-measurements/

jeanpierre 03-24-2021 04:57 AM
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jeanpierre 03-24-2021 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916879)
Mac Jones Bama ProDay Numbers...

Nothing on the hand size?

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...82258573230084
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 916882)
From senior bowl
Both of his hands rounded out at about 10 inches (9 6/8″)

https://tdalabamamag.com/2021/01/26/...-measurements/
Yep. Was taunting the hand size thing, especially Pelissero...

st thomas 03-24-2021 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916879)
Mac Jones Bama ProDay Numbers...

Nothing on the hand size?

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...82258573230084

So he can’t dunk, I’m out on Mac


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jeanpierre 03-24-2021 10:06 AM
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The more it seems that Jaycee Horn may not be there for us at No. 28, assuming we stay disciplined, the more I warm to idea of Eric Stokes as our CB2...

K Major 03-24-2021 10:59 AM
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The more it seems that Jaycee Horn may not be there for us at No. 28, assuming we stay disciplined, the more I warm to idea of Eric Stokes as our CB2...
I'll be interested to see how much SP relies on the input from Coach Kris Richard if in fact we lean towards CB @ pick #28.

If Newsome, Molden or Horn are off the board, there may be a kid Kris likes on Day 2. Cameron Danztler of the Vikes & Trevon Diggs/Cows come to mind. 2nd and 3rd round selections in 2020 but both played well as rookies in the #2 CB spot.

Rugby Saint II 03-24-2021 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 916915)
I'll be interested to see how much SP relies on the input from Coach Kris Richard if in fact we lean towards CB @ pick #28.

If Newsome, Molden or Horn are off the board, there may be a kid Kris likes on Day 2. Cameron Danztler of the Vikes & Trevon Diggs/Cows come to mind. 2nd and 3rd round selections in 2020 but both played well as rookies in the #2 CB spot.
First off, Sean Payton needs to stay away from the defensive draft board! Secondly, Richard may be very good at spotting talent like Ireland is and we'll be back to full strength on defense in no time.

K Major 03-24-2021 02:45 PM
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I see Jeff Ireland was at SC pro workout ...

Jaycee Horn had a 41 1/2 vert :o & 11 1/2 broad jump.

4.39 40. All of this was simply confirmation. Watch his tape.

Numbers good enough to be the first CB taken in the upcoming draft.

ChrisXVI 03-24-2021 03:24 PM
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Jaycee Horn will be gone in the top half of the first round. We can start forgetting about landing him.

jeanpierre 03-24-2021 05:49 PM
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Jaycee Horn will be gone in the top half of the first round. We can start forgetting about landing him.
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jeanpierre 03-24-2021 06:42 PM
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jeanpierre 03-25-2021 04:29 AM
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jeanpierre 03-25-2021 04:30 AM
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ChrisXVI 03-25-2021 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 916909)
The more it seems that Jaycee Horn may not be there for us at No. 28, assuming we stay disciplined, the more I warm to idea of Eric Stokes as our CB2...
Still haven’t gotten around to watching much Eric Stokes... or Tyson Campbell for that matter.

ChrisXVI 03-25-2021 09:00 PM
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So I’ve watched some Eric Stokes and outside of the big three (Surtain, Farley and Horn)... I can confidently say that Greg Newsome is still the next best CB.

K Major 03-25-2021 10:07 PM
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Caleb Farley's 1st round stock could drop ... he had a back procedure (microdiscectomy) earlier this week & will miss his pro day on tomorrow. Opting out of the 2020 season, limited tape and missing his pro day could loom large on his day 1 draft status. I expect many to take him off their board completely.

Two back surgeries in a 2 year span is concerning.

jeanpierre 03-26-2021 08:39 AM
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jeanpierre 03-26-2021 08:52 AM
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ChrisXVI 03-26-2021 09:51 AM
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That’s not bad at all. Although, with Davis and Baun projected to be our starting nickel LB’s I’m not sure there’s great value in taking another LB in the first round.

K Major 03-26-2021 10:15 AM
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I like Zaven Collins too. He can drop into coverage, play the run and rush the QB. I believe he is a game changer and can take over a game. If he is the best player on your board @ 28, select him.

I'm still high on Jabrill Cox though. He's played at a high level at two programs. ND State and then at LSU.

Having another beast alongside Demario would be outstanding for our defense. Wouldn't be opposed to drafting another pass rusher either.

BTW, I'm still hopeful Baun can get it done and sees the field more in 2021 now that Anzalone is gone.

ChrisXVI 03-26-2021 11:51 AM
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Well... since our #1 CB is probably facing a lengthy suspension, f*** it let’s make the big trade up for Horn.

jeanpierre 03-26-2021 03:20 PM
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Well... since our #1 CB is probably facing a lengthy suspension, f*** it let’s make the big trade up for Horn.
Or we take the CB2 this year and we're likely in a slot in next year's draft to take a CB1 if that becomes necessary...

jeanpierre 03-26-2021 03:24 PM
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Jimmy G may be looking for a job soon...

jeanpierre 03-26-2021 03:32 PM
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jeanpierre 03-26-2021 10:55 PM
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jeanpierre 03-27-2021 08:42 AM
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SmashMouth 03-27-2021 09:37 AM
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SmashMouth 03-27-2021 09:39 AM
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Our new Sproles? Come on down!


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