I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

halloween 65 · 02-13-2023, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

So, basically... he and his wife got a free trip to New Orleans, some free meals at the best restaurants, and now he knows that the Saints are interested, but can still do whatever he wants.

All true but I think he signs here, Loomy give him the red carpet treatment.

leilung · 02-13-2023, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

So, basically... he and his wife got a free trip to New Orleans, some free meals at the best restaurants, and now he knows that the Saints are interested, but can still do whatever he wants.

Or it could be Carr giving the Raiders a big F-U! allowing a trade helps the Raiders and I'm guessing that his loyalty dried up with theirs?

AsylumGuido · 02-13-2023, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Or it could be Carr giving the Raiders a big F-U! allowing a trade helps the Raiders and I'm guessing that his loyalty dried up with theirs?

This is extremely likely.

SmashMouth · 02-13-2023, 09:10 AM

AsylumGuido · 02-13-2023, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1625117840830533633

Excuse me while I wait until someone else other than Ian Fullacrap verifies Carr's being released.

AsylumGuido · 02-13-2023, 09:58 AM

K Major · 02-13-2023, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Carr is ok but its better to find an ok qb with a second day draft pick because they are way cheaper and younger. We are not one player away. We need the cash to pay for dead cap costs of cutting dead weight.

This right here from BakoSaint

AsylumGuido · 02-13-2023, 10:29 AM

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AsylumGuido · 02-13-2023, 12:07 PM

Ross Jackson lays out a very reasonable contract structure for Carr and the Saints. Consistent with one normally written up by Loomis/Harley.

We’re projecting terms on a 3-year, $105 million deal (average per year: $35 million) with a $50 million signing bonus and $60 million guaranteed in total.

2023: $1.165 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($11.165 million cap hit)

2024: $11.9 million base salary, $10 million roster bonus, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($21.9 million cap hit)

2025: $31.9 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($41.9 million cap hit)

2026 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit)

2027 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit)
This would allow the Saints to keep the cap hit in 2023 manageable, plan ahead to restructure the roster bonus in 2024 and backload the deal. That way if things work out, the Saints could extend him to drop that massive 2025 hit into future years which they would add to his contract anyway.

SmashMouth · 02-13-2023, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Ross Jackson lays out a very reasonable contract structure for Carr and the Saints. Consistent with one normally written up by Loomis/Harley.

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...62980957495305

We’re projecting terms on a 3-year, $105 million deal (average per year: $35 million) with a $50 million signing bonus and $60 million guaranteed in total.

2023: $1.165 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($11.165 million cap hit)

2024: $11.9 million base salary, $10 million roster bonus, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($21.9 million cap hit)

2025: $31.9 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($41.9 million cap hit)

2026 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit)

2027 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit)
This would allow the Saints to keep the cap hit in 2023 manageable, plan ahead to restructure the roster bonus in 2024 and backload the deal. That way if things work out, the Saints could extend him to drop that massive 2025 hit into future years which they would add to his contract anyway.

Wut?!? Contract details already?

02-13-2023, 05:31 AM	#211
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by stickman So, basically... he and his wife got a free trip to New Orleans, some free meals at the best restaurants, and now he knows that the Saints are interested, but can still do whatever he wants. All true but I think he signs here, Loomy give him the red carpet treatment. SmashMouth likes this.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,373	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by stickman So, basically... he and his wife got a free trip to New Orleans, some free meals at the best restaurants, and now he knows that the Saints are interested, but can still do whatever he wants. Or it could be Carr giving the Raiders a big F-U! allowing a trade helps the Raiders and I'm guessing that his loyalty dried up with theirs? neugey, AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and 3 others like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by leilung Or it could be Carr giving the Raiders a big F-U! allowing a trade helps the Raiders and I'm guessing that his loyalty dried up with theirs? This is extremely likely. neugey and SmashMouth like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Ross Jackson lays out a very reasonable contract structure for Carr and the Saints. Consistent with one normally written up by Loomis/Harley. Twitter We’re projecting terms on a 3-year, $105 million deal (average per year: $35 million) with a $50 million signing bonus and $60 million guaranteed in total. 2023: $1.165 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($11.165 million cap hit) 2024: $11.9 million base salary, $10 million roster bonus, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($21.9 million cap hit) 2025: $31.9 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($41.9 million cap hit) 2026 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit) 2027 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit) This would allow the Saints to keep the cap hit in 2023 manageable, plan ahead to restructure the roster bonus in 2024 and backload the deal. That way if things work out, the Saints could extend him to drop that massive 2025 hit into future years which they would add to his contract anyway.
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02-13-2023, 12:22 PM	#220
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Ross Jackson lays out a very reasonable contract structure for Carr and the Saints. Consistent with one normally written up by Loomis/Harley. https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...62980957495305 We’re projecting terms on a 3-year, $105 million deal (average per year: $35 million) with a $50 million signing bonus and $60 million guaranteed in total. 2023: $1.165 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($11.165 million cap hit) 2024: $11.9 million base salary, $10 million roster bonus, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($21.9 million cap hit) 2025: $31.9 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($41.9 million cap hit) 2026 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit) 2027 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit) This would allow the Saints to keep the cap hit in 2023 manageable, plan ahead to restructure the roster bonus in 2024 and backload the deal. That way if things work out, the Saints could extend him to drop that massive 2025 hit into future years which they would add to his contract anyway. Wut?!? Contract details already? K Major likes this.