I'd like to try and get Derek Carr

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2023, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Next in line. If the Giants won't pay it, someone else will. Note that $45 million is the cost of the exclusive QB franchise tag.

The only way to have it both ways is to draft a QB high in the first round. Only there is the talent elite and the price tag for the first 5 years are reasonable.

That's why I find discussions about Carr, or Rodgers, or Jackson, or any other elite QB that could be available for trade or signing in free agency laughable. Their ballparks are $50 million a year, and likely almost all of it guaranteed. Unless you are an organization that's prepared to win like next year, it's just a waste of time.

SFIAH

Um, I'm ready to win next year. Besides, Carr isn't in that ballpark.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-21-2023, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Um, I'm ready to win next year. Besides, Carr isn't in that ballpark.

Of course you are ready to win next year. But that's because your are the ultimate optimist. The realist in me doesn't see a complete Saints team that's only missing a QB that's prepared to take on the final 4 from last year's conference championships yet. As such blowing out the salary cap to bring in a QB until we've addressed the holes in both lines, along with solid backups along virtually every position in the offense and the defense.

The Saints need an offensive identity independent of the QB. Bringing in a high priced mercenary isn't going to solve that problem.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2023, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Of course you are ready to win next year. But that's because your are the ultimate optimist. The realist in me doesn't see a complete Saints team that's only missing a QB that's prepared to take on the final 4 from last year's conference championships yet. As such blowing out the salary cap to bring in a QB until we've addressed the holes in both lines, along with solid backups along virtually every position in the offense and the defense.

The Saints need an offensive identity independent of the QB. Bringing in a high priced mercenary isn't going to solve that problem.

SFIAH

Right now I just want to return to the playoffs, SFIAH. I went through over forty years without winning a Super Bowl. I can handle another wait if need be. What I can't wait for is being back in the playoffs. I can't take sitting in the stands losing games because of a QB that either can't see or can't hit wide open receivers.

We can still address the lines AND get the most important hole on the team filled in the QB. I want us to be competitive and win games at home. Right now I'm not concerned about beating those final four teams. I want us to be able to simply play those final four teams in the post season.

Who knows, maybe pigs will fly again. But at least that dream is there and alive.

rezburna · 02-21-2023, 05:02 PM

I don’t know if we’re gonna get him man. I have manor doubts now.

neugey · 02-21-2023, 07:00 PM

This is going to take a while. With him being effectively the only QB on the free market now, I'm sure his agent is asking for the sun, the moon and the stars.

voodooido · 02-21-2023, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

This is going to take a while. With him being effectively the only QB on the free market now, I'm sure his agent is asking for the sun, the moon and the stars.

Never thought of it that way. Many teams need a qb and only one is available as of now. Supply and demand

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2023, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

This is going to take a while. With him being effectively the only QB on the free market now, I'm sure his agent is asking for the sun, the moon and the stars.

His brother said Derek is going to take his time and meet with all interested teams. He said he's wanting to go primarily where it's the best fit. It sounds like the biggest deal isn't going to be the deciding factor. It sounds like the culture of the team is important to him.

subguy · 02-23-2023, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

His brother said Derek is going to take his time and meet with all interested teams. He said he's wanting to go primarily where it's the best fit. It sounds like the biggest deal isn't going to be the deciding factor. It sounds like the culture of the team is important to him.

In which case, knowing Carr and Allen have history, that doesn't speak volumes for Dennis Allen and having faith in his NOLA culture if the move doesn't happen.

Sinner · 02-21-2023, 08:40 PM

...YAWN...

K Major · 02-23-2023, 09:35 AM

All I know is that I've seen enough of Andy Dalton.

02-21-2023, 03:56 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Next in line. If the Giants won't pay it, someone else will. Note that $45 million is the cost of the exclusive QB franchise tag. The only way to have it both ways is to draft a QB high in the first round. Only there is the talent elite and the price tag for the first 5 years are reasonable. That's why I find discussions about Carr, or Rodgers, or Jackson, or any other elite QB that could be available for trade or signing in free agency laughable. Their ballparks are $50 million a year, and likely almost all of it guaranteed. Unless you are an organization that's prepared to win like next year, it's just a waste of time. SFIAH Um, I'm ready to win next year. Besides, Carr isn't in that ballpark.

02-21-2023, 04:25 PM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,789	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Um, I'm ready to win next year. Besides, Carr isn't in that ballpark. Of course you are ready to win next year. But that's because your are the ultimate optimist. The realist in me doesn't see a complete Saints team that's only missing a QB that's prepared to take on the final 4 from last year's conference championships yet. As such blowing out the salary cap to bring in a QB until we've addressed the holes in both lines, along with solid backups along virtually every position in the offense and the defense. The Saints need an offensive identity independent of the QB. Bringing in a high priced mercenary isn't going to solve that problem. SFIAH
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02-21-2023, 04:46 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Of course you are ready to win next year. But that's because your are the ultimate optimist. The realist in me doesn't see a complete Saints team that's only missing a QB that's prepared to take on the final 4 from last year's conference championships yet. As such blowing out the salary cap to bring in a QB until we've addressed the holes in both lines, along with solid backups along virtually every position in the offense and the defense. The Saints need an offensive identity independent of the QB. Bringing in a high priced mercenary isn't going to solve that problem. SFIAH Right now I just want to return to the playoffs, SFIAH. I went through over forty years without winning a Super Bowl. I can handle another wait if need be. What I can't wait for is being back in the playoffs. I can't take sitting in the stands losing games because of a QB that either can't see or can't hit wide open receivers. We can still address the lines AND get the most important hole on the team filled in the QB. I want us to be competitive and win games at home. Right now I'm not concerned about beating those final four teams. I want us to be able to simply play those final four teams in the post season. Who knows, maybe pigs will fly again. But at least that dream is there and alive.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

02-21-2023, 05:02 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,170	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr I don’t know if we’re gonna get him man. I have manor doubts now.

02-21-2023, 07:00 PM	#5
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,880 Blog Entries: 13	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr This is going to take a while. With him being effectively the only QB on the free market now, I'm sure his agent is asking for the sun, the moon and the stars.

02-21-2023, 07:16 PM	#6
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,859	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by neugey This is going to take a while. With him being effectively the only QB on the free market now, I'm sure his agent is asking for the sun, the moon and the stars. Never thought of it that way. Many teams need a qb and only one is available as of now. Supply and demand
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02-22-2023, 08:21 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by neugey This is going to take a while. With him being effectively the only QB on the free market now, I'm sure his agent is asking for the sun, the moon and the stars. His brother said Derek is going to take his time and meet with all interested teams. He said he's wanting to go primarily where it's the best fit. It sounds like the biggest deal isn't going to be the deciding factor. It sounds like the culture of the team is important to him.

02-23-2023, 06:36 AM	#8
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,120	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr Originally Posted by AsylumGuido His brother said Derek is going to take his time and meet with all interested teams. He said he's wanting to go primarily where it's the best fit. It sounds like the biggest deal isn't going to be the deciding factor. It sounds like the culture of the team is important to him. In which case, knowing Carr and Allen have history, that doesn't speak volumes for Dennis Allen and having faith in his NOLA culture if the move doesn't happen.

02-21-2023, 08:40 PM	#9
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,075	Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr ...YAWN...
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02-23-2023, 09:35 AM	#10
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