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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Trevor has played great, and could be a future to build around. He, so far, has played better than Winston. The biggest issue Trevor has is at WR/TE. We have the worst average separation by pass catchers in the league ...

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Old 11-16-2021, 11:43 AM   #1
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Re: Trevor Siemian

Trevor has played great, and could be a future to build around. He, so far, has played better than Winston.

The biggest issue Trevor has is at WR/TE.

We have the worst average separation by pass catchers in the league and are 5th in dropped passes. Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning wouldn't have much success with our WR/TEs.

Trevor threw for 300 2 TDs against one of the best Defenses with ZERO help around him.

The one knock on Trevor... piss poor clock management, that can be improved.
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Re: Trevor Siemian

Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
Trevor has played great, and could be a future to build around. He, so far, has played better than Winston.

The biggest issue Trevor has is at WR/TE.

We have the worst average separation by pass catchers in the league and are 5th in dropped passes. Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning wouldn't have much success with our WR/TEs.

Trevor threw for 300 2 TDs against one of the best Defenses with ZERO help around him.

The one knock on Trevor... piss poor clock management, that can be improved.
You are clearly watching a different game than me. I will not be surprised to see a change at QB this coming week. What is it with the sudden rash of dropped balls? I shared earlier that I felt the low velocity ball that Siemian throws has to affect the receiver's timing. They are expecting the ball to be in the hands when its arrival is actually a tad later than expected.
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You are clearly watching a different game than me. I will not be surprised to see a change at QB this coming week. What is it with the sudden rash of dropped balls? I shared earlier that I felt the low velocity ball that Siemian throws has to affect the receiver's timing. They are expecting the ball to be in the hands when its arrival is actually a tad later than expected.
Or maybe the WR's just suck?
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Or maybe the WR's just suck?
Football_reference.com shows the Saints as having 17 total drops on the season. Kamara leads the team with five drops. (Does that mean Kamara sucks?) Trautman is second with four. Tre'Quan has two drops and nobody else has more than one. This is current through week 10.

I've seen more in the past three weeks with Siemian delivering the ball than in the previous six weeks on the season.
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Old 11-16-2021, 12:47 PM   #5
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Football_reference.com shows the Saints as having 17 total drops on the season. Kamara leads the team with five drops. (Does that mean Kamara sucks?) Trautman is second with four. Tre'Quan has two drops and nobody else has more than one. This is current through week 10.

I've seen more in the past three weeks with Siemian delivering the ball than in the previous six weeks on the season.
Well considering that Kamara is around 70% of our total offense, I can't really blame him for having a few more drops.

What's shocking is that Trautman is barely 5 or 10% of our offense and still has nearly as many drops as Kamara does.

I think those stats are incorrect, Kenny Stills has 2 drops in the past 2 weeks alone.
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Well considering that Kamara is around 70% of our total offense, I can't really blame him for having a few more drops.

What's shocking is that Trautman is barely 5 or 10% of our offense and still has nearly as many drops as Kamara does.

I think those stats are incorrect, Kenny Stills has 2 drops in the past 2 weeks alone.
I remember one, which is what the stats show. Just because a player gets hands on a ball doesn't make it catchable. One definition has a drops as "incomplete passes where the receiver SHOULD have caught the pass with ORDINARY effort." Trautman's drops are perfect examples.
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