Head Coach Search

Boston Saint · 02-03-2022, 09:19 AM

But that is not the fault of the organization but rather the rule they are made to follow. The gripe is against the rule that was put in place to “fix” the inequity that is believed Black candidates face. It’s a catch 22.

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2022, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

But that is not the fault of the organization but rather the rule they are made to follow. The gripe is against the rule that was put in place to “fix” the inequity that is believed Black candidates face. It’s a catch 22.

Yup. The rule definitely has its faults. That's for sure. But it is the fault of the organization if they ignore the rule altogether as has been a point of complaint for years, don't you think?

If a rule states that an employer must interview two applicants prior to hiring either of them, and the employer hires the first interviewee prior to holding an interview with the other has the employer violated the rule? Yes or no?

Boston Saint · 02-03-2022, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. The rule definitely has its faults. That's for sure. But it is the fault of the organization if they ignore the rule altogether as has been a point of complaint for years, don't you think?

If a rule states that an employer must interview two applicants prior to hiring either of them, and the employer hires the first interviewee prior to holding an interview with the other has the employer violated the rule? Yes or no?

I’m guessing nothing was signed, so no “hire” was made. This mainly all supposedly started on a Belichick call/text, right? That’s not evidence of hire. I’ve interviewed people and said “you look like our hire” and changed my mind.

Maybe the Giants new 99% sure who they wanted and there were 9 other teams looking for coaches as well and wanted to see him too, so they felt they had to act. Doesn’t mean the rule was broken; ESPECIALLY not because of racial reasons.

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2022, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I’m guessing nothing was signed, so no “hire” was made. This mainly all supposedly started on a Belichick call/text, right? That’s not evidence of hire. I’ve interviewed people and said “you look like our hire” and changed my mind.

Maybe the Giants new 99% sure who they wanted and there were 9 other teams looking for coaches as well and wanted to see him too, so they felt they had to act. Doesn’t mean the rule was broken; ESPECIALLY not because of racial reasons.

Absolutely. As long as they didn't act before the interview they would be in the clear for sure. And none of that can be solved one way or another in a football forum. That's what the courts are for, right?

Oh, by the way, verbal agreements can be binding in New Jersey, as can text messages, emails, and other forms of electronic communication in most every state these days. Of course, when I had all of my business law courses back in the day we were limited to telephone and snail mail. LOL!

New Jersey Contract Law: Everything You Need to Know

This tiny part of the lawsuit is just the tip of the iceberg. It's going to be very interesting what all comes to light over the next few months as others begin to join the litigation.

02-03-2022, 09:19 AM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Head Coach Search But that is not the fault of the organization but rather the rule they are made to follow. The gripe is against the rule that was put in place to “fix” the inequity that is believed Black candidates face. It’s a catch 22.

02-03-2022, 09:29 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by Boston Saint But that is not the fault of the organization but rather the rule they are made to follow. The gripe is against the rule that was put in place to “fix” the inequity that is believed Black candidates face. It’s a catch 22. Yup. The rule definitely has its faults. That's for sure. But it is the fault of the organization if they ignore the rule altogether as has been a point of complaint for years, don't you think? If a rule states that an employer must interview two applicants prior to hiring either of them, and the employer hires the first interviewee prior to holding an interview with the other has the employer violated the rule? Yes or no?

02-03-2022, 09:37 AM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. The rule definitely has its faults. That's for sure. But it is the fault of the organization if they ignore the rule altogether as has been a point of complaint for years, don't you think? If a rule states that an employer must interview two applicants prior to hiring either of them, and the employer hires the first interviewee prior to holding an interview with the other has the employer violated the rule? Yes or no? I’m guessing nothing was signed, so no “hire” was made. This mainly all supposedly started on a Belichick call/text, right? That’s not evidence of hire. I’ve interviewed people and said “you look like our hire” and changed my mind. Maybe the Giants new 99% sure who they wanted and there were 9 other teams looking for coaches as well and wanted to see him too, so they felt they had to act. Doesn’t mean the rule was broken; ESPECIALLY not because of racial reasons.

02-03-2022, 09:59 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Head Coach Search Originally Posted by Boston Saint I’m guessing nothing was signed, so no “hire” was made. This mainly all supposedly started on a Belichick call/text, right? That’s not evidence of hire. I’ve interviewed people and said “you look like our hire” and changed my mind. Maybe the Giants new 99% sure who they wanted and there were 9 other teams looking for coaches as well and wanted to see him too, so they felt they had to act. Doesn’t mean the rule was broken; ESPECIALLY not because of racial reasons. Absolutely. As long as they didn't act before the interview they would be in the clear for sure. And none of that can be solved one way or another in a football forum. That's what the courts are for, right? Oh, by the way, verbal agreements can be binding in New Jersey, as can text messages, emails, and other forms of electronic communication in most every state these days. Of course, when I had all of my business law courses back in the day we were limited to telephone and snail mail. LOL! New Jersey Contract Law: Everything You Need to Know This tiny part of the lawsuit is just the tip of the iceberg. It's going to be very interesting what all comes to light over the next few months as others begin to join the litigation.
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