2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Sorry but I don’t see it that way. Detroit moved up to get Alabama’s guy right after us. If we wanted Olave (or another top rated WR) then we had to move up. Otherwise we take the same tackle at 16 rather than 19. Just my take of course.

Jameson is the better Prospect

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2022, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Jameson is the better Prospect

Maybe. Maybe not. We'll likely not know for some time as he may not even be able to play this season. We are wanting to win NOW, not nope a player can contribute the following season.

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Maybe. Maybe not. We'll likely not know for some time as he may not even be able to play this season. We are wanting to win NOW, not nope a player can contribute the following season.

That's your opinion mines is that if you trade up that damn high and give up what you gave up you get the best guy Jameson Williams was the better guy pre injury he was THE #1 WR prospect. If winning nkw was the goal trading away draft picks for a first rd wr was too much

Boston Saint · 04-30-2022, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Jameson is the better Prospect

Maybe so, but that’s not the point. Neither he or Olave would have been available at 16. That’s why both Det and we moved up. Otherwise at 16 we are drafting a WR with a perceived much lower ceiling.

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Maybe so, but that’s not the point. Neither he or Olave would have been available at 16. That’s why both Det and we moved up. Otherwise at 16 we are drafting a WR with a perceived much lower ceiling.

Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2022, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine.

Fine for who? Perhaps for you, but apparently not for them. They put far more hours into this process than any of us. I trust they have a better idea of what is best for them than any of us.

Boston Saint · 04-30-2022, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine.

We will see. Obviously the Saints didn’t see it that way. I’m not a big fan of the way they have historically traded up. I am on record saying the Davenport pick was a mistake (pick not the player). However, in this case, after an early run of Defensive players drafted, the picks were all OTs or WRs. I’m guessing the team had high grades on 2 or 3 of each. Once those started to dwindle they secured what they wanted. I hope it works out. Don’t you?

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

We will see. Obviously the Saints didn’t see it that way. I’m not a big fan of the way they have historically traded up. I am on record saying the Davenport pick was a mistake (pick not the player). However, in this case, after an early run of Defensive players drafted, the picks were all OTs or WRs. I’m guessing the team had high grades on 2 or 3 of each. Once those started to dwindle they secured what they wanted. I hope it works out. Don’t you?

Do I hope the Saints giving up the 3rd n 4thrnd picks missing out some sleeper prospects and potential impact players doesn't bite them in the ass YES I DO. Do I think Chris will be a good player? YES I DO.? Do I think Chr8s Olave was worth what we loss in relation to what we needed ? No I DONT.

Boston Saint · 04-30-2022, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Do I hope the Saints giving up the 3rd n 4thrnd picks missing out some sleeper prospects and potential impact players doesn't bite them in the ass YES I DO. Do I think Chris will be a good player? YES I DO.? Do I think Chr8s Olave was worth what we loss in relation to what we needed ? No I DONT.

Fair enough, but you are covering all your bases there. I’m saying if Olave succeeds with the Saints then the extra picks were worth it. You are saying if he succeeds then any other WR would succeed and it’s not worth it.

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If they had Olave as their #1 choice at WR then I have zero issue at their doing whatever it takes to get him.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Fair enough, but you are covering all your bases there. I’m saying if Olave succeeds with the Saints then the extra picks were worth it. You are saying if he succeeds then any other WR would succeed and it’s not worth it.

I'm saying if he doesn't turn out to have a Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase impact it wasn't and trading up for him is telling me that's how the Saints felt

04-30-2022, 02:37 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,707	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Jameson is the better Prospect Maybe. Maybe not. We'll likely not know for some time as he may not even be able to play this season. We are wanting to win NOW, not nope a player can contribute the following season.

04-30-2022, 02:40 PM	#3
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Maybe. Maybe not. We'll likely not know for some time as he may not even be able to play this season. We are wanting to win NOW, not nope a player can contribute the following season. That's your opinion mines is that if you trade up that damn high and give up what you gave up you get the best guy Jameson Williams was the better guy pre injury he was THE #1 WR prospect. If winning nkw was the goal trading away draft picks for a first rd wr was too much

04-30-2022, 02:44 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Jameson is the better Prospect Maybe so, but that’s not the point. Neither he or Olave would have been available at 16. That’s why both Det and we moved up. Otherwise at 16 we are drafting a WR with a perceived much lower ceiling.

04-30-2022, 02:46 PM	#5
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint Maybe so, but that’s not the point. Neither he or Olave would have been available at 16. That’s why both Det and we moved up. Otherwise at 16 we are drafting a WR with a perceived much lower ceiling. Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine.

04-30-2022, 02:52 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,707	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine. Fine for who? Perhaps for you, but apparently not for them. They put far more hours into this process than any of us. I trust they have a better idea of what is best for them than any of us.

04-30-2022, 02:33 PM	#1
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint Sorry but I don’t see it that way. Detroit moved up to get Alabama’s guy right after us. If we wanted Olave (or another top rated WR) then we had to move up. Otherwise we take the same tackle at 16 rather than 19. Just my take of course. Jameson is the better Prospect

04-30-2022, 02:54 PM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine. We will see. Obviously the Saints didn’t see it that way. I’m not a big fan of the way they have historically traded up. I am on record saying the Davenport pick was a mistake (pick not the player). However, in this case, after an early run of Defensive players drafted, the picks were all OTs or WRs. I’m guessing the team had high grades on 2 or 3 of each. Once those started to dwindle they secured what they wanted. I hope it works out. Don’t you?

04-30-2022, 02:59 PM	#8
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint We will see. Obviously the Saints didn’t see it that way. I’m not a big fan of the way they have historically traded up. I am on record saying the Davenport pick was a mistake (pick not the player). However, in this case, after an early run of Defensive players drafted, the picks were all OTs or WRs. I’m guessing the team had high grades on 2 or 3 of each. Once those started to dwindle they secured what they wanted. I hope it works out. Don’t you? Do I hope the Saints giving up the 3rd n 4thrnd picks missing out some sleeper prospects and potential impact players doesn't bite them in the ass YES I DO. Do I think Chris will be a good player? YES I DO.? Do I think Chr8s Olave was worth what we loss in relation to what we needed ? No I DONT.

04-30-2022, 03:06 PM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Do I hope the Saints giving up the 3rd n 4thrnd picks missing out some sleeper prospects and potential impact players doesn't bite them in the ass YES I DO. Do I think Chris will be a good player? YES I DO.? Do I think Chr8s Olave was worth what we loss in relation to what we needed ? No I DONT. Fair enough, but you are covering all your bases there. I’m saying if Olave succeeds with the Saints then the extra picks were worth it. You are saying if he succeeds then any other WR would succeed and it’s not worth it.

04-30-2022, 03:37 PM	#10
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If they had Olave as their #1 choice at WR then I have zero issue at their doing whatever it takes to get him. Originally Posted by Boston Saint Fair enough, but you are covering all your bases there. I’m saying if Olave succeeds with the Saints then the extra picks were worth it. You are saying if he succeeds then any other WR would succeed and it’s not worth it. I'm saying if he doesn't turn out to have a Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase impact it wasn't and trading up for him is telling me that's how the Saints felt