Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen

papz · 11-16-2022, 08:32 AM

I agree. If you really look at the roster, when healthy, we're actually in good shape. We just need a slightly above average quarterback and we're a playoff team. The problem is that we're never healthy and we don't have the latter either. Jimmy G has been mentioned several times on the board and I think he actually works here if we can find some money between the couch cushions. It's not a bad stop gap.

SmashMouth · 11-16-2022, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

What we need is some healthy players! We’ve got three backup Olinemen blocking for a backup QB throwing to Kevin White, Smith, and Callaway.

Originally Posted by papz

I agree. If you really look at the roster, when healthy, we're actually in good shape. We just need a slightly above average quarterback and we're a playoff team. The problem is that we're never healthy and we don't have the latter either. Jimmy G has been mentioned several times on the board and I think he actually works here if we can find some money between the couch cushions. It's not a bad stop gap.

Maybe the Saints need a strength/conditioning and nutritions expert team like Coach Brian Kelly seems to have put together at LSU. Have the Saints lost their way in certain parts of the organization?

AsylumGuido · 11-16-2022, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Maybe the Saints need a strength/conditioning and nutritions expert team like Coach Brian Kelly seems to have out together at LSU. Have the Saints lost their way in certain parts of the organization?

That's why Dr. Matt Rhea was hired this past off-season as director of sports science.

mapcow · 11-16-2022, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's why Dr. Matt Rhea was hired this past off-season as director of sports science.

Guess he could not do his job either... Turf Toe is it?

Rugby Saint II · 11-16-2022, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Maybe the Saints need a strength/conditioning and nutritions expert team like Coach Brian Kelly seems to have put together at LSU. Have the Saints lost their way in certain parts of the organization?

Matt Rhea's specialty is soft tissue injuries. We have not had very many of those this year. He can't control the other injuries but we need to find somebody who can! The folks we have doing it are not getting the job done!

AsylumGuido · 11-16-2022, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Matt Rhea's specialty is soft tissue injuries. We have not had very many of those this year. He can't control the other injuries but we need to find somebody who can! The folks we have doing it are not getting the job done!

Yes, we have had a run of serious toe injuries, high ankle sprains, and concussions. Actually, most teams have. Really none of these have to do with any sort of strength or conditioning. Equipment in the case of the toe injuries could be a factor. Or playing surface could be the issue. The high ankle sprains cannot be prevented nor can the concussions beyond what they league is already doing. It's just dumb luck. It just like the Rams losing Kupp to the ankle this past week along with their starting LT and RG for other reasons.

Boston Saint · 11-16-2022, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I agree. If you really look at the roster, when healthy, we're actually in good shape. We just need a slightly above average quarterback and we're a playoff team. The problem is that we're never healthy and we don't have the latter either. Jimmy G has been mentioned several times on the board and I think he actually works here if we can find some money between the couch cushions. It's not a bad stop gap.

I’m hoping for Minshew the second. With a nickname like “Jockstrap King” I’d roll with that.

BakoSaint · 11-16-2022, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I agree. If you really look at the roster, when healthy, we're actually in good shape. We just need a slightly above average quarterback and we're a playoff team. The problem is that we're never healthy and we don't have the latter either. Jimmy G has been mentioned several times on the board and I think he actually works here if we can find some money between the couch cushions. It's not a bad stop gap.

Most teams are never healthy, we have not been healthy for many years.

Boston Saint · 11-16-2022, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Most teams are never healthy, we have not been healthy for many years.

Healthy is a relative term. Not being healthy could be anything from having a cold to having pancreatic cancer. Kindly Point out to me another team that has played without:

2-3 starting olinemen,
# 1 WR
#1 CB
starting QB
Any backup RBs
Middle LB

Then, if you find any that have done so, let me know the record of those teams.

SmashMouth · 11-16-2022, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Maybe the Saints need a strength/conditioning and nutritions expert team like Coach Brian Kelly seems to have put together at LSU. Have the Saints lost their way in certain parts of the organization?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's why Dr. Matt Rhea was hired this past off-season as director of sports science.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Most teams are never healthy, we have not been healthy for many years.

Originally Posted by mapcow

Guess he could not do his job either... Turf Toe is it?

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Healthy is a relative term. Not being healthy could be anything from having a cold to having pancreatic cancer. Kindly Point out to me another team that has played without:

2-3 starting olinemen,
# 1 WR
#1 CB
starting QB
Any backup RBs
Middle LB

Then, if you find any that have done so, let me know the record of those teams.

So is Dr. Rhea the answer? How is his performance so far? (Matt Rhea on Saints WR Michael Thomas' injury/rehab: 'He's constantly working … to return') . How many players are on IR for seemingly a minor injury, like cutting fingernails too short or something absurdly ridiculous like that? If one states that all teams are undergoing similar challenges, does that makes it explainable to justifiable? Or is it symptomatic of a league wide problem? Certainly it's not a $ issue since the league makes more than anyone can imagine. If the league's intent is to have a bunch of 8-9 and 9-8 teams, then we're there, hockey basically. It's not entertaining or fun to watch and witness as fans. IMHO, the league has gotten too big for its britches. They've lost their way. They've lost track of the most important part, the fans. That's who ultimately funds these overpaid folks. And now with gambling... SMDH.

11-16-2022, 08:35 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Boston Saint What we need is some healthy players! We’ve got three backup Olinemen blocking for a backup QB throwing to Kevin White, Smith, and Callaway. Originally Posted by papz I agree. If you really look at the roster, when healthy, we're actually in good shape. We just need a slightly above average quarterback and we're a playoff team. The problem is that we're never healthy and we don't have the latter either. Jimmy G has been mentioned several times on the board and I think he actually works here if we can find some money between the couch cushions. It's not a bad stop gap. Maybe the Saints need a strength/conditioning and nutritions expert team like Coach Brian Kelly seems to have put together at LSU. Have the Saints lost their way in certain parts of the organization? Rell&Gold, K Major and Boston Saint like this.
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11-16-2022, 08:57 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by SmashMouth Maybe the Saints need a strength/conditioning and nutritions expert team like Coach Brian Kelly seems to have out together at LSU. Have the Saints lost their way in certain parts of the organization? That's why Dr. Matt Rhea was hired this past off-season as director of sports science.

11-16-2022, 09:38 AM	#4
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's why Dr. Matt Rhea was hired this past off-season as director of sports science. Guess he could not do his job either... Turf Toe is it?
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11-16-2022, 11:23 AM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by SmashMouth Maybe the Saints need a strength/conditioning and nutritions expert team like Coach Brian Kelly seems to have put together at LSU. Have the Saints lost their way in certain parts of the organization? Matt Rhea's specialty is soft tissue injuries. We have not had very many of those this year. He can't control the other injuries but we need to find somebody who can! The folks we have doing it are not getting the job done! SmashMouth likes this.

11-16-2022, 11:32 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Matt Rhea's specialty is soft tissue injuries. We have not had very many of those this year. He can't control the other injuries but we need to find somebody who can! The folks we have doing it are not getting the job done! Yes, we have had a run of serious toe injuries, high ankle sprains, and concussions. Actually, most teams have. Really none of these have to do with any sort of strength or conditioning. Equipment in the case of the toe injuries could be a factor. Or playing surface could be the issue. The high ankle sprains cannot be prevented nor can the concussions beyond what they league is already doing. It's just dumb luck. It just like the Rams losing Kupp to the ankle this past week along with their starting LT and RG for other reasons.

11-16-2022, 08:32 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen I agree. If you really look at the roster, when healthy, we're actually in good shape. We just need a slightly above average quarterback and we're a playoff team. The problem is that we're never healthy and we don't have the latter either. Jimmy G has been mentioned several times on the board and I think he actually works here if we can find some money between the couch cushions. It's not a bad stop gap. leilung, saintsfan1976, K Major and 1 others like this.

11-16-2022, 08:38 AM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by papz I agree. If you really look at the roster, when healthy, we're actually in good shape. We just need a slightly above average quarterback and we're a playoff team. The problem is that we're never healthy and we don't have the latter either. Jimmy G has been mentioned several times on the board and I think he actually works here if we can find some money between the couch cushions. It's not a bad stop gap. I’m hoping for Minshew the second. With a nickname like “Jockstrap King” I’d roll with that.

11-16-2022, 09:28 AM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by papz I agree. If you really look at the roster, when healthy, we're actually in good shape. We just need a slightly above average quarterback and we're a playoff team. The problem is that we're never healthy and we don't have the latter either. Jimmy G has been mentioned several times on the board and I think he actually works here if we can find some money between the couch cushions. It's not a bad stop gap. Most teams are never healthy, we have not been healthy for many years. Rell&Gold likes this.
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11-16-2022, 10:02 AM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by BakoSaint Most teams are never healthy, we have not been healthy for many years. Healthy is a relative term. Not being healthy could be anything from having a cold to having pancreatic cancer. Kindly Point out to me another team that has played without: 2-3 starting olinemen, # 1 WR #1 CB starting QB Any backup RBs Middle LB Then, if you find any that have done so, let me know the record of those teams. saintsfan1976, Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.

11-16-2022, 10:19 AM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by SmashMouth Maybe the Saints need a strength/conditioning and nutritions expert team like Coach Brian Kelly seems to have put together at LSU. Have the Saints lost their way in certain parts of the organization? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's why Dr. Matt Rhea was hired this past off-season as director of sports science. Originally Posted by BakoSaint Most teams are never healthy, we have not been healthy for many years. Originally Posted by mapcow Guess he could not do his job either... Turf Toe is it? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Healthy is a relative term. Not being healthy could be anything from having a cold to having pancreatic cancer. Kindly Point out to me another team that has played without: 2-3 starting olinemen, # 1 WR #1 CB starting QB Any backup RBs Middle LB Then, if you find any that have done so, let me know the record of those teams. So is Dr. Rhea the answer? How is his performance so far? (Matt Rhea on Saints WR Michael Thomas' injury/rehab: 'He's constantly working … to return') . How many players are on IR for seemingly a minor injury, like cutting fingernails too short or something absurdly ridiculous like that? If one states that all teams are undergoing similar challenges, does that makes it explainable to justifiable? Or is it symptomatic of a league wide problem? Certainly it's not a $ issue since the league makes more than anyone can imagine. If the league's intent is to have a bunch of 8-9 and 9-8 teams, then we're there, hockey basically. It's not entertaining or fun to watch and witness as fans. IMHO, the league has gotten too big for its britches. They've lost their way. They've lost track of the most important part, the fans. That's who ultimately funds these overpaid folks. And now with gambling... SMDH. K Major and Boston Saint like this.