Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen

11-19-2022, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Allen made the right call to sit Winston. Winston's whining is disgusting. Trade or cut him NOW. No need for a LR cancer.

Winston isn’t a cancer fam.

As for Allen, he doesn’t have a clue on how to LEAD men.

Boston Saint · 11-19-2022, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Winston isn’t a cancer fam.

As for Allen, he doesn’t have a clue on how to LEAD men.

But If he had no leadership skills major, I don’t think he would have been able to turn the defense into the powerhouse unit it was the last few years when healthy. Guys like Davis and Jordan wouldn’t have bought into his system if he didn’t have their respect as a leader. The response is going to be they respected Payton, but that didn’t work for Ryan as DC. Just my take.

rezburna · 11-19-2022, 12:04 PM

Dennis Allen didn’t really turn the defense into a powerhouse. The defense was stockpiled with talent at every level. He wasn’t creating crazy schemes and fooling anybody. We line up in man to man every game with a single high safety in Marcus Williams who had the range to cover the entire field. I saw nothing innovative or special from Allen on defense. I saw talent. Allen ain’t a leader and I’d gladly sign that petition. Dude is ass.

rezburna · 11-19-2022, 12:18 PM

When somebody plays a lot of man on Madden you know what I do? Bunch my receivers and run drags. What have teams done successfully on us for years? Drags.

voodooido · 11-23-2022, 07:35 PM

I like Allen. He was stuck without a qb and all but one WR hurt. Db underperformed all year. I’d say let him build his team and get rid of the mess SP left behind.

vpheughan · 11-23-2022, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Dennis Allen didn’t really turn the defense into a powerhouse. The defense was stockpiled with talent at every level. He wasn’t creating crazy schemes and fooling anybody. We line up in man to man every game with a single high safety in Marcus Williams who had the range to cover the entire field. I saw nothing innovative or special from Allen on defense. I saw talent. Allen ain’t a leader and I’d gladly sign that petition. Dude is ass.

Agreed! Remember when "Trusting In Spags" led to the worst defense in the league? That very same "Spags" went on to win a Super Bowl with KC.

The lack of defensive talent he had here was the reason for that dubious record. You can be a great coach but if you have 11 broom sticks to "coach up" you'll end up with a record setting "bad defense". Having talent makes the job much easier.

Rugby Saint II · 11-24-2022, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Dennis Allen didn’t really turn the defense into a powerhouse. The defense was stockpiled with talent at every level. He wasn’t creating crazy schemes and fooling anybody. We line up in man to man every game with a single high safety in Marcus Williams who had the range to cover the entire field. I saw nothing innovative or special from Allen on defense. I saw talent. Allen ain’t a leader and I’d gladly sign that petition. Dude is ass.

Dennis Allen was able to put a good defense on the field when they drafted him a good defense. He gas done nothing special as a head coach and I want him gone. If he wants to stay on his defensive coordinator I'm okay with that. If not.. see you!

dizzle88 · 11-24-2022, 02:04 PM

DA pretty much dismantled the defensive backfield in just a few months and it shows.

Maye is okay, but he's no Marcus Williams.
Roby is okay, but he's no CGJ
Mathieu, looks like he's checked out.

Vonn Bell, Marcus Williams and CGJ all have more ints individually than our entire unit have combined.

SP was 1 win away from the playoffs with way more injuries than this team sustained.

DA just isn't the answer.

The way he's broken the D, I'd even be hesitant to keep him on as D coordinator, which is a shame because we used to have a really good defense.

nola_swammi · 11-24-2022, 11:40 PM

Amazing how people can defend a 4-7 record coach, but ready crucify a Super Bowl and franchise record winning coach (Sean Payton)

Boston Saint · 11-25-2022, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Amazing how people can defend a 4-7 record coach, but ready crucify a Super Bowl and franchise record winning coach (Sean Payton)

It’s also amazing how people don’t take into account how injuries impact a team and their performance. Case in point the Super bowl champ Rams with the same coach are a mess with fewer wins than the Saints and a loss to them as well.

11-19-2022, 11:12 AM	#51
Threaded by K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Thirty3 Allen made the right call to sit Winston. Winston's whining is disgusting. Trade or cut him NOW. No need for a LR cancer. Winston isn’t a cancer fam. As for Allen, he doesn’t have a clue on how to LEAD men. Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.
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11-19-2022, 11:19 AM	#52
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by K Major Winston isn’t a cancer fam. As for Allen, he doesn’t have a clue on how to LEAD men. But If he had no leadership skills major, I don’t think he would have been able to turn the defense into the powerhouse unit it was the last few years when healthy. Guys like Davis and Jordan wouldn’t have bought into his system if he didn’t have their respect as a leader. The response is going to be they respected Payton, but that didn’t work for Ryan as DC. Just my take.

11-19-2022, 12:04 PM	#53
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Dennis Allen didn’t really turn the defense into a powerhouse. The defense was stockpiled with talent at every level. He wasn’t creating crazy schemes and fooling anybody. We line up in man to man every game with a single high safety in Marcus Williams who had the range to cover the entire field. I saw nothing innovative or special from Allen on defense. I saw talent. Allen ain’t a leader and I’d gladly sign that petition. Dude is ass. Halo, SaintFanInATLHELL, SmashMouth and 4 others like this.

11-19-2022, 12:18 PM	#54
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen When somebody plays a lot of man on Madden you know what I do? Bunch my receivers and run drags. What have teams done successfully on us for years? Drags. Rugby Saint II, Rell&Gold and K Major like this.

11-23-2022, 07:35 PM	#55
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen I like Allen. He was stuck without a qb and all but one WR hurt. Db underperformed all year. I’d say let him build his team and get rid of the mess SP left behind.
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11-23-2022, 11:17 PM	#56
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by rezburna Dennis Allen didn’t really turn the defense into a powerhouse. The defense was stockpiled with talent at every level. He wasn’t creating crazy schemes and fooling anybody. We line up in man to man every game with a single high safety in Marcus Williams who had the range to cover the entire field. I saw nothing innovative or special from Allen on defense. I saw talent. Allen ain’t a leader and I’d gladly sign that petition. Dude is ass. Agreed! Remember when "Trusting In Spags" led to the worst defense in the league? That very same "Spags" went on to win a Super Bowl with KC. The lack of defensive talent he had here was the reason for that dubious record. You can be a great coach but if you have 11 broom sticks to "coach up" you'll end up with a record setting "bad defense". Having talent makes the job much easier.
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11-24-2022, 12:43 PM	#57
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by rezburna Dennis Allen didn’t really turn the defense into a powerhouse. The defense was stockpiled with talent at every level. He wasn’t creating crazy schemes and fooling anybody. We line up in man to man every game with a single high safety in Marcus Williams who had the range to cover the entire field. I saw nothing innovative or special from Allen on defense. I saw talent. Allen ain’t a leader and I’d gladly sign that petition. Dude is ass. Dennis Allen was able to put a good defense on the field when they drafted him a good defense. He gas done nothing special as a head coach and I want him gone. If he wants to stay on his defensive coordinator I'm okay with that. If not.. see you!

11-24-2022, 02:04 PM	#58
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen DA pretty much dismantled the defensive backfield in just a few months and it shows. Maye is okay, but he's no Marcus Williams. Roby is okay, but he's no CGJ Mathieu, looks like he's checked out. Vonn Bell, Marcus Williams and CGJ all have more ints individually than our entire unit have combined. SP was 1 win away from the playoffs with way more injuries than this team sustained. DA just isn't the answer. The way he's broken the D, I'd even be hesitant to keep him on as D coordinator, which is a shame because we used to have a really good defense. nola_swammi, halloween 65 and Rell&Gold like this.
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11-24-2022, 11:40 PM	#59
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Amazing how people can defend a 4-7 record coach, but ready crucify a Super Bowl and franchise record winning coach (Sean Payton) halloween 65 and Rell&Gold like this.

11-25-2022, 09:18 AM	#60
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by nola_swammi Amazing how people can defend a 4-7 record coach, but ready crucify a Super Bowl and franchise record winning coach (Sean Payton) It’s also amazing how people don’t take into account how injuries impact a team and their performance. Case in point the Super bowl champ Rams with the same coach are a mess with fewer wins than the Saints and a loss to them as well.