Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen

11-29-2022, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The reasons he will get a second year have very little to do with him. A short list of what will be stated as reasons, none of which are valid for the reasons I will add..

- He doesn't have his own people. (Because he didn't put them in place, strike 1.)

- An executive or two signed off on him as a HC. (No one that was instrumental in installing him wants to go after the end of the season so they will rationalize to Mrs. Benson reasons why he should get a second year then put pressure on him to perform to save their jobs.)

- The media, starving for something to talk about, will rally to his side with the "you cant fire someone after just one season BS". (This is only valid if Dennis Allen would have started to rebuild in the off season; he didn't, that window is closed since his first choice was the wrong choice.. Strike 2)

- He made a second year a condition of accepting the HC position. (Because I would have and if he didnt, he really needs to go now mid season because he is truly a checker player and cant see 2 feet in front of himself).

I remember the threads vividly with many people hanging their hat on Dennis Allen because he meant continuity.. Ignoring the glaring performance and talent issues.

There is always the possibility (didn't say probability) that this was orchestrated to give Sean a year off and he returns and Dennis resumes his Defensive role. On a certain level, I do not buy any of this bull****. I am supposed to believe that Sean Payton, the quintessential chess player, woke up on a Saturday morning and said f*** it, I am done. I am supposed to believe that after 15 years of working very closely together through a lot of BS (Bountygate/Vicodin/Loss of Tom), Mickey Loomis didn't know it was coming?

A $3.5BN franchise does not exist without very painstakingly developed succession plans for each and every critical position. If it does, the entire executive level needs to be on the curb by noon.

Well said... and that being said, did SP haul azz cuz he wanted to coach elsewhere and take a year off? Or did he wake up one morning and thought about Mahomes and started hitting himself in the face? Or is it a dark plan to help the Saints with draft picks when he coaches somewhere else? It's not likely he comes back. He cut bait and left. And management dropped the ball in the guise of continuity. We as fans brought it hookline and sinker. In reality you do what the Steelers did when they replaced their coach. The telltale is the demand by other teams, or lack thereof, for Saints coaches and assistants.

Rugby Saint II · 11-30-2022, 01:58 PM

Just keep doing what you're doing. That is a response from a loser who doesn't know how to run the team. We could win a couple of these next games because our division just stinks. However, I wouldn't count on that. Dennis Allen will unfortunately get another year since this is a family run business. But I don't want Dennis Allen back. We need a motivator!

Rugby Saint II · 12-04-2022, 01:23 PM

Can somebody post the petition on here so that I can sign it?

AsylumGuido · 12-04-2022, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Can somebody post the petition on here so that I can sign it?

Waste of time, Rugs. Nobody cares about those stupid petitions.

Boston Saint · 12-04-2022, 08:13 PM

LOL. I JUST got a text from a poker buddy who is a long time season ticket holder to the Pats. They wanted to know “As a long time ticket holder how concerned are you about the direction of the team?”. Billichik is on the hot seat. What a crazy sport.

K Major · 12-06-2022, 09:59 AM

There is very little energy in this man. Yesterday's meltdown was just as bad as the Falcons vs Brady. Critical play was 3rd and less than a yard. Why are you throwing a slant to a cold, nonproductive target in Callaway? That was ridiculous to me.

Critical mistakes in critical moments.

The Saints need better direction.

They'll give him another season, but they shouldn't.

neugey · 12-06-2022, 05:07 PM

Coaching is like cooking: not everyone can do it, but when it's done completely wrong everyone can smell it and taste it.

I won't sign the petition because the organization is going to need to figure it out for themselves. It's above my pay grade.

dizzle88 · 12-06-2022, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

There is very little energy in this man. Yesterday's meltdown was just as bad as the Falcons vs Brady. Critical play was 3rd and less than a yard. Why are you throwing a slant to a cold, nonproductive target in Callaway? That was ridiculous to me.

Critical mistakes in critical moments.

The Saints need better direction.

They'll give him another season, but they shouldn't.

Bad teams find ways to lose, and thats what this team does, over and over.

It can be the offense fumbling, throwing interceptions, not establishing a running game, bad playcalling and going 3 and out constantly.

It can be the Punter shanking kicks or Lutz missing field goals.

It can be the defense playing soft, missing tackles, making stupid fouls. We've done them all and they still dont learn.

Notice how Devin White tracked Kamara all over the field and never gave him space. Our guys played off so much, Brady would be stupid to not check down, because they play off and then can't tackle.

Adebo has no place in this starting lineup, he's god awful.

mapcow · 12-07-2022, 09:46 AM

Saints future - Team will consist of NFL has beens, and future hall of famer rookies(whom will be traded for more has beens)..... the circle is complete.

Trust me....its true.

So glad to have witnessed the Saints SuperBowl Win... Bounty Gate...and the saints players knocking the snot out of opponents. When football was actually football. Not sure, the play of today amounts to football of any sort. Maybe finesse_ball.

TheOak · 12-07-2022, 10:15 AM

Word on the street is that Dennis Allen signed it after Monday nights game.

11-29-2022, 09:47 AM	#91
Threaded by SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by TheOak The reasons he will get a second year have very little to do with him. A short list of what will be stated as reasons, none of which are valid for the reasons I will add.. - He doesn't have his own people. (Because he didn't put them in place, strike 1.) - An executive or two signed off on him as a HC. (No one that was instrumental in installing him wants to go after the end of the season so they will rationalize to Mrs. Benson reasons why he should get a second year then put pressure on him to perform to save their jobs.) - The media, starving for something to talk about, will rally to his side with the "you cant fire someone after just one season BS". (This is only valid if Dennis Allen would have started to rebuild in the off season; he didn't, that window is closed since his first choice was the wrong choice.. Strike 2) - He made a second year a condition of accepting the HC position. (Because I would have and if he didnt, he really needs to go now mid season because he is truly a checker player and cant see 2 feet in front of himself). I remember the threads vividly with many people hanging their hat on Dennis Allen because he meant continuity.. Ignoring the glaring performance and talent issues. There is always the possibility (didn't say probability) that this was orchestrated to give Sean a year off and he returns and Dennis resumes his Defensive role. On a certain level, I do not buy any of this bull**. I am supposed to believe that Sean Payton, the quintessential chess player, woke up on a Saturday morning and said f* it, I am done. I am supposed to believe that after 15 years of working very closely together through a lot of BS (Bountygate/Vicodin/Loss of Tom), Mickey Loomis didn't know it was coming? A $3.5BN franchise does not exist without very painstakingly developed succession plans for each and every critical position. If it does, the entire executive level needs to be on the curb by noon. Well said... and that being said, did SP haul azz cuz he wanted to coach elsewhere and take a year off? Or did he wake up one morning and thought about Mahomes and started hitting himself in the face? Or is it a dark plan to help the Saints with draft picks when he coaches somewhere else? It's not likely he comes back. He cut bait and left. And management dropped the ball in the guise of continuity. We as fans brought it hookline and sinker. In reality you do what the Steelers did when they replaced their coach. The telltale is the demand by other teams, or lack thereof, for Saints coaches and assistants. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.
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11-30-2022, 01:58 PM	#92
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Just keep doing what you're doing. That is a response from a loser who doesn't know how to run the team. We could win a couple of these next games because our division just stinks. However, I wouldn't count on that. Dennis Allen will unfortunately get another year since this is a family run business. But I don't want Dennis Allen back. We need a motivator! nola_swammi, Sinner, halloween 65 and 1 others like this.

12-04-2022, 01:23 PM	#93
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Can somebody post the petition on here so that I can sign it? halloween 65 likes this.

12-04-2022, 04:12 PM	#94
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Can somebody post the petition on here so that I can sign it? Waste of time, Rugs. Nobody cares about those stupid petitions.

12-04-2022, 08:13 PM	#95
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen LOL. I JUST got a text from a poker buddy who is a long time season ticket holder to the Pats. They wanted to know “As a long time ticket holder how concerned are you about the direction of the team?”. Billichik is on the hot seat. What a crazy sport.

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12-06-2022, 09:59 AM	#96
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen There is very little energy in this man. Yesterday's meltdown was just as bad as the Falcons vs Brady. Critical play was 3rd and less than a yard. Why are you throwing a slant to a cold, nonproductive target in Callaway? That was ridiculous to me. Critical mistakes in critical moments. The Saints need better direction. They'll give him another season, but they shouldn't. neugey, Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and 2 others like this.

12-06-2022, 05:07 PM	#97
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Coaching is like cooking: not everyone can do it, but when it's done completely wrong everyone can smell it and taste it. I won't sign the petition because the organization is going to need to figure it out for themselves. It's above my pay grade. jnormand, leilung, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

12-06-2022, 06:25 PM	#98
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by K Major There is very little energy in this man. Yesterday's meltdown was just as bad as the Falcons vs Brady. Critical play was 3rd and less than a yard. Why are you throwing a slant to a cold, nonproductive target in Callaway? That was ridiculous to me. Critical mistakes in critical moments. The Saints need better direction. They'll give him another season, but they shouldn't. Bad teams find ways to lose, and thats what this team does, over and over. It can be the offense fumbling, throwing interceptions, not establishing a running game, bad playcalling and going 3 and out constantly. It can be the Punter shanking kicks or Lutz missing field goals. It can be the defense playing soft, missing tackles, making stupid fouls. We've done them all and they still dont learn. Notice how Devin White tracked Kamara all over the field and never gave him space. Our guys played off so much, Brady would be stupid to not check down, because they play off and then can't tackle. Adebo has no place in this starting lineup, he's god awful. Rell&Gold likes this.
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12-07-2022, 09:46 AM	#99
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,793	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Saints future - Team will consist of NFL has beens, and future hall of famer rookies(whom will be traded for more has beens)..... the circle is complete. Trust me....its true. So glad to have witnessed the Saints SuperBowl Win... Bounty Gate...and the saints players knocking the snot out of opponents. When football was actually football. Not sure, the play of today amounts to football of any sort. Maybe finesse_ball. jnormand and Sinner like this.
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12-07-2022, 10:15 AM	#100
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Word on the street is that Dennis Allen signed it after Monday nights game. jnormand, neugey, saintsfan1976 and 4 others like this.