Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen

Boston Saint · 11-27-2022, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The red flags for me is that on 2 separate occasions, players have had to stand up and motivate the team via meetings (Kamara and Cam), instead of Allen himself.

He seems out of his depth and willing to let the players take on his responsibility.

Or maybe the players know it’s on them for playing like crap and not being responsible for their performance. Fumbles and missed tackles aren’t always on the coach.

SmashMouth · 11-27-2022, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Or maybe the players know it’s on them for playing like crap and not being responsible for their performance. Fumbles and missed tackles aren’t always on the coach.

Saints need some of that Boston Saint cooking ...

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Or maybe the players know it’s on them for playing like crap and not being responsible for their performance. Fumbles and missed tackles aren’t always on the coach.

You are absolutely right. Kamara fumbles were absolutely on him and great plays by a great defense. That game was still in reach even after those fumbles. We lost 13-0 we had multiple opportunities after those fumbles to still win as it pertains to the 49ers game specifically. Saints vs Buccaneers Monday night. Saints turned the ball over ZERO times. Had an INT and a FF with a recovery, somehow they overcame that.......hmmmmmmmm that's interesting Saints turn the ball over twice with multiple opportunities to win the game after those TO's and yall blame the TO's make it make sense?

AsylumGuido · 11-27-2022, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The red flags for me is that on 2 separate occasions, players have had to stand up and motivate the team via meetings (Kamara and Cam), instead of Allen himself.

He seems out of his depth and willing to let the players take on his responsibility.

Something to consider here, diz ... was it Sean Payton alone that motivated the players? I believe that Drew Brees and other players were tremendous motivating factors. I have no doubt that Allen, and the other coaches, are doing all they can as far as motivation goes, but losing a leader like Drew Brees leaves a huge vacuum. I believe it was a void that Payton himself couldn't fill last season.

TheOak · 11-27-2022, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The red flags for me is that on 2 separate occasions, players have had to stand up and motivate the team via meetings (Kamara and Cam), instead of Allen himself.

He seems out of his depth and willing to let the players take on his responsibility.

Allen’s got 99 problems but that ain’t one. Those players are grown ass men and playing at a professional level, if they aren’t able to reach down and drag their own d1cks out of the dirt by now then maybe they shouldn’t be out there. They have ALL faced adversity before and should be seasoned enough to overcome that crap.

Your boss come in on Monday and give you a pep talk?

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Allen’s got 99 problems but that ain’t one. Those players are grown ass men and playing at a professional level, if they aren’t able to reach down and drag their own d1cks out of the dirt by now then maybe they shouldn’t be out there. They have ALL faced adversity before and should be seasoned enough to overcome that crap.

Your boss come in on Monday and give you a pep talk?

This would make sense if you were talking about something non-competitive and not played with emotion. Coach sets the tone for team don't sit up here and be ignorant to the reality of ENERGY MOMENTUM because it's convenient for your statement. Should you need it every game NO but, sometimes the things Sean did to motivate guys was just enough to keep alert ready prepared aware etc....Everything doesn't have to be rah rah to be motivate either

TheOak · 12-09-2022, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

This would make sense if you were talking about something non-competitive and not played with emotion. Coach sets the tone for team don't sit up here and be ignorant to the reality of ENERGY MOMENTUM because it's convenient for your statement. Should you need it every game NO but, sometimes the things Sean did to motivate guys was just enough to keep alert ready prepared aware etc....Everything doesn't have to be rah rah to be motivate either

Didn’t say a ****ing thing about acting like Guido. Landry, Saban, Belichick, all stoic coaches. No clue what you are going on about just as it seems you have no idea what I said.

QBREES9 · 11-27-2022, 09:31 AM

Why? he has doesn't have a Quarterback, it's his first year as a head coach. give the a guy a chance. Were all spoiled, Thank Drew Brees and Sean Payton for that.

AsylumGuido · 11-27-2022, 10:22 AM

I don't get wanting to fire him when we go 10-7 in the regular season and 4-0 in the playoffs.

Championship!!

Boston Saint · 11-27-2022, 03:50 PM

How about we start a petition for the RBs to get their heads out of their a$$es!

11-27-2022, 08:29 AM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by dizzle88 The red flags for me is that on 2 separate occasions, players have had to stand up and motivate the team via meetings (Kamara and Cam), instead of Allen himself. He seems out of his depth and willing to let the players take on his responsibility. Or maybe the players know it’s on them for playing like crap and not being responsible for their performance. Fumbles and missed tackles aren’t always on the coach. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and Pete like this.

11-27-2022, 11:49 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,132 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Boston Saint Or maybe the players know it’s on them for playing like crap and not being responsible for their performance. Fumbles and missed tackles aren’t always on the coach. Saints need some of that Boston Saint cooking ... Boston Saint likes this.

12-09-2022, 08:06 AM	#3
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Boston Saint Or maybe the players know it’s on them for playing like crap and not being responsible for their performance. Fumbles and missed tackles aren’t always on the coach. You are absolutely right. Kamara fumbles were absolutely on him and great plays by a great defense. That game was still in reach even after those fumbles. We lost 13-0 we had multiple opportunities after those fumbles to still win as it pertains to the 49ers game specifically. Saints vs Buccaneers Monday night. Saints turned the ball over ZERO times. Had an INT and a FF with a recovery, somehow they overcame that.......hmmmmmmmm that's interesting Saints turn the ball over twice with multiple opportunities to win the game after those TO's and yall blame the TO's make it make sense?

11-27-2022, 11:02 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by dizzle88 The red flags for me is that on 2 separate occasions, players have had to stand up and motivate the team via meetings (Kamara and Cam), instead of Allen himself. He seems out of his depth and willing to let the players take on his responsibility. Something to consider here, diz ... was it Sean Payton alone that motivated the players? I believe that Drew Brees and other players were tremendous motivating factors. I have no doubt that Allen, and the other coaches, are doing all they can as far as motivation goes, but losing a leader like Drew Brees leaves a huge vacuum. I believe it was a void that Payton himself couldn't fill last season. Pete likes this.

11-27-2022, 03:58 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by dizzle88 The red flags for me is that on 2 separate occasions, players have had to stand up and motivate the team via meetings (Kamara and Cam), instead of Allen himself. He seems out of his depth and willing to let the players take on his responsibility. Allen’s got 99 problems but that ain’t one. Those players are grown ass men and playing at a professional level, if they aren’t able to reach down and drag their own d1cks out of the dirt by now then maybe they shouldn’t be out there. They have ALL faced adversity before and should be seasoned enough to overcome that crap. Your boss come in on Monday and give you a pep talk? saintsfan1976, Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

12-09-2022, 08:10 AM	#6
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by TheOak Allen’s got 99 problems but that ain’t one. Those players are grown ass men and playing at a professional level, if they aren’t able to reach down and drag their own d1cks out of the dirt by now then maybe they shouldn’t be out there. They have ALL faced adversity before and should be seasoned enough to overcome that crap. Your boss come in on Monday and give you a pep talk? This would make sense if you were talking about something non-competitive and not played with emotion. Coach sets the tone for team don't sit up here and be ignorant to the reality of ENERGY MOMENTUM because it's convenient for your statement. Should you need it every game NO but, sometimes the things Sean did to motivate guys was just enough to keep alert ready prepared aware etc....Everything doesn't have to be rah rah to be motivate either

12-09-2022, 02:03 PM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Rell&Gold This would make sense if you were talking about something non-competitive and not played with emotion. Coach sets the tone for team don't sit up here and be ignorant to the reality of ENERGY MOMENTUM because it's convenient for your statement. Should you need it every game NO but, sometimes the things Sean did to motivate guys was just enough to keep alert ready prepared aware etc....Everything doesn't have to be rah rah to be motivate either Didn’t say a ****ing thing about acting like Guido. Landry, Saban, Belichick, all stoic coaches. No clue what you are going on about just as it seems you have no idea what I said.

11-27-2022, 09:31 AM	#8
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen Why? he has doesn't have a Quarterback, it's his first year as a head coach. give the a guy a chance. Were all spoiled, Thank Drew Brees and Sean Payton for that. jnormand likes this.

11-27-2022, 10:22 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen I don't get wanting to fire him when we go 10-7 in the regular season and 4-0 in the playoffs. Championship!!

11-27-2022, 03:50 PM	#10
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints fans launch petition asking team to fire Dennis Allen How about we start a petition for the RBs to get their heads out of their a$$es!