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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by BakoSaint The 2022 Bills went 13-4 and lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. The 2023 Bills went 11-6 and lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. How did Kinkaid make them so amazingly better? ...

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Old 03-18-2024, 02:36 PM   #161
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The 2022 Bills went 13-4 and lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. The 2023 Bills went 11-6 and lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs. How did Kinkaid make them so amazingly better? Leading all receivers on your team in a playoffs loss is not necessarily a good thing. It means the opposing defenses game plan to focus elsewhere worked.

TE just doesn't work like other positions in the draft. Yes Adam Trautman was a horrible disaster, one of the worst Saints of all time, and he was a mid rounder, but we were Kelce, Kittle, Gronk, Gates, Graham, etc. Just imagine our infinite 4 straight super bowl glory if we took the first TE off the board Cole Kmet instead of waiting to the mid rounds to take a shot on Trautman. In this case Kmet has been decent I grant you, but he has never made a pro bowl and when he was taken the following players were available taken in the next 10 picks: antoine winfield jr, jaylon johnson, trevon diggs, jalen hurts.

The draft is a crapshoot but TE is different because the biggest stars are divided almost evenly between rounds 1-7 in terms of where they were selected. At other positions, like half the big stars come from the first or maybe 2nd round.

We need better talent at TE but the best way to get that is to spend more picks at the position in Rounds 2-7 not to ever waste a 1st round pick on it. If you are going to draft TE it would always be better to trade back out of the first round. The Ravens for example addressed TE with a sure thing HOF lock championship glory 1st round TE in 2018 and then took a flyer on a second rate mid round TE later in the draft. The 1st round TE was Hayden Hurt and the late 3rd rounder was Mark Andrews. This is not the exception at TE this is the rule. This is not the one Brock Purdy miracle story. Most good TE come from later rounds.
Denver just resigned Trautman to a 2 year deal.
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Old 03-18-2024, 02:53 PM   #162
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2023 Draft Top 10 Tight End Prospects

1. MICHAEL MAYER, NOTRE DAME (JUNIOR | 6-4, 265) Raiders 2nd
27 Rec. 304 Yards 2 TD 11.3 YPC

2. LUKE MUSGRAVE, OREGON STATE (RS JUNIOR | 6-6, 250) Packers 2nd
34 Rec. 352 Yards 1 td 10.4 YPC

3. DALTON KINCAID, UTAH (RS SENIOR | 6-4, 240) Bills 1st
73 Rec. 673 Yards 2 TD 9.2 YPC

4. DARNELL WASHINGTON, GEORGIA (JUNIOR | 6-7, 269) Steelers 3rd
7 Rec. 61 Yards 0 TD 8.7 YPC

5. SAM LAPORTA, IOWA (SENIOR | 6-4, 249) Lions 2nd
86 Rec. 883 Yards 10 TD 10.3 YPC

6. CADE STOVER, OHIO STATE (RS JUNIOR | 6-4, 255) 2024

7. TUCKER KRAFT, SOUTH DAKOTA STATE ( 6-5, 255) Packers 3rd
31 Rec. 335 Yards 2 TD 11.5 YPC

8. BREVYN SPANN-FORD, MINNESOTA (RS SENIOR | 6-7, 270) 2024

9. DAVIS ALLEN, CLEMSON (SENIOR | 6-6, 250) Rams 5th
10 Rec. 95 Yards 1 TD 9.5 YPC

10. WILL MALLORY, MIAMI (FL) (RS SENIOR | 6-5, 245) Colts 5th
18 Rec. 207 Yards 0 TD 11.5 YPC

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Denver just resigned Trautman to a 2 year deal.
Sean will be out of Denver soon.

You aren't winning many games in the AFC with the likes of Trautman, Krull, Lil Jordan etc. Not to mention about 10 or so former Saints assistants/coaches.

Broncos current starting QB is Jarrett Stidham . Good luck with that.
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Old 03-18-2024, 03:33 PM   #165
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I wouldn't be mad at all if Jared is the pick @ 14.



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Old 03-18-2024, 10:05 PM   #166
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Ok, now that Chase is on board …

Saints need a quality TACKLE in the draft.

Maybe they address it @ pick 14.
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Old 03-19-2024, 10:29 AM   #168
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Troy Fauntanu - T
Washington

Per reports "good movement for zone blocking scheme. Physical run blocker and traits of a plug and play starter".

1st and 2nd round grades.
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Troy Fauntanu - T
Washington

Per reports "good movement for zone blocking scheme. Physical run blocker and traits of a plug and play starter".

1st and 2nd round grades.
I know we probably won’t, but I bet we could trade down while attaining a second rounder in the process and he’d still be available in the later part of the first for the taking.

I’m sure they’ll be a can’t pass on talent drop to us at 14 though…
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