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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Well Bresee led DTs in sacks with 4.5, so I’d say thats a little more than just flashed. He has shown he’ll be a force with a great future as long as he stays healthy. Saunders ...

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Old 02-27-2024, 10:48 PM   #61
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Well Bresee led DTs in sacks with 4.5, so I’d say thats a little more than just flashed. He has shown he’ll be a force with a great future as long as he stays healthy. Saunders and Shepard are fine for now, but in a couple of years it’d be nice to have two young studs anchor that position for the future while adding to the DE position.
I hope the best for Bresee. But realistically I think we need to hold off on the annointing oil. Truth is he was neither a bust nor breakout. 4.5 sacks is nice but not enough sample size to prove anything great. It’s equivalent to Trequan Smith’s 5 receiving TDs as a rookie, as sacks and receiving TDs are similar scarcity. Bresee’s pff score was like 50. He needs to start before we even start getting too excited.
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I hope the best for Bresee. But realistically I think we need to hold off on the annointing oil. Truth is he was neither a bust nor breakout. 4.5 sacks is nice but not enough sample size to prove anything great. It’s equivalent to Trequan Smith’s 5 receiving TDs as a rookie, as sacks and receiving TDs are similar scarcity. Bresee’s pff score was like 50. He needs to start before we even start getting too excited.
I’m not really interested in his pff grade as a rookie. I’m not saying he came in and played as a pro bowl level DT, but I’m very optimistic from what I saw on game day. But to put it in perspective, cam Jordan had 1 sack, 18 tackles, 16 pressures his rookie year vs bresee had 4.5 sacks, 12 tackles, 18 pressures.
I feel very confident, barring injuries, that he’ll be a hell of a player for us and I really want another promising rookie DT. Hell, I want a whole youth movement along that line.
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Old 02-28-2024, 10:03 AM   #63
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Saints Bresee Earns Rookie Recognition

New Orleans Saints rookie defensive tackle Bryan Bresee has already received a few early postseason recognition for his first-year achievements. Former NFL general manager Rick Spielman and CBS draft analyst Ryan Wilson named Bresee to their 2023 All-Rookie Team on the With the First Pick Podcast on CBSSports.com this week. Bresee joined Philadelphia Eagles DT Jalen Carter, the ninth overall choice, on the CBS All-Rookie squad.

Bresee made an immediate impact with New Orleans, something he was able to sustain throughout his inaugural season. He's appeared in all 16 games for a defense that ranks sixth in points against and 13th in total yardage allowed.

Bresee has 4.5 sacks, with two more disallowed by penalty this season. He's also added nine QB hits, seven tackles for loss, and 13 pressures for the Saints. Bresee has also tipped or batted down six passes and has significantly improved as a run defender.

The 6'5" and 305-Lb. Bresee has a terrific combination of power and athletic ability. He also plays with a non-stop motor, allowing him to make a lot of plays on second effort. He's shown a wider array of pass rush moves during the course of the season, further raising the bar of his tremendous potential.

Bryan Bresee has the look of a potential star. He's created consistent disruption for the New Orleans defense all season and greatly improved what had been an underachieving defensive interior over the previous two seasons. It's likely just the beginning of even bigger things to come for Bresee.
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Lol, Brian Bresee is promising & has TALENT.

Saints have more pressing issues to deal with …

Defensive end & tackle.
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Old 02-28-2024, 10:43 AM   #65
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Here's my guy. I have followed his career at NCSU (my school) and he's a stud. Sideline to sideline, tackling and coverage skills. Remember this name. Payton Wilson.

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Old 02-28-2024, 11:17 AM   #67
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Dallas Turner would be great.

Do we spend the capital to trade up?

Depends on free agency IMO
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Old 02-28-2024, 02:33 PM   #68
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I'd also like to see us draft (lower round) another NT.

We haven't been nasty on that Dline since Malcom Brown was traded.

On the offensive side, I kinda like Cooper Beebe (G) from Kansas. He's played tackle, RG and also LG.

Day 2 projections by national scouts.
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I’m not really interested in his pff grade as a rookie. I’m not saying he came in and played as a pro bowl level DT, but I’m very optimistic from what I saw on game day. But to put it in perspective, cam Jordan had 1 sack, 18 tackles, 16 pressures his rookie year vs bresee had 4.5 sacks, 12 tackles, 18 pressures.
I feel very confident, barring injuries, that he’ll be a hell of a player for us and I really want another promising rookie DT. Hell, I want a whole youth movement along that line.
There are some people on this forum who say all our members opinions are garbage and they would trust Mickey Loomis over all of us because he is a professional with untold expertise and resources. I guess that is my position with PFF. They watch every play 10x in slow motion or whatever and have a large staff developing a grading system. They are able to attract the respect of many experts and many subscribers. Their numbers, although not perfect, seem to align with what I see and be a better guide than optimistic fans. They have competed with other services and risen to the top. So while I think Mickey Loomis is a joke who lucked into his job and is sitting around all day golfing and chugging bottles of Beam, and others think he has a PhD in football, I guess I am on the the opposite side with pff and respect pff over random board members eyeball test. Clearly Bresee got a few sacks, but I think the low grades mean there are issues in other parts of his game. If he was a walking sack machine why wasn't he starting over low budget journeymen? How was he in run support? Did he blow assignments? For example, Bresee had 6 penalties as a backup vs 7 total penalties for all our other starting and backup dline combined. Call me back when his sack numbers at least exceed his penalties. To me, 4.5 sacks and 6 penalties sounds like a net loss. Hopefully he can clean up the penalties over time, but maybe when he does he gets less of a jump and gets less sacks too.

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