2010 NFL Draft

stockman311 · 02-24-2010, 04:33 PM

In a 4-3, the nose tackle isn't two-gapping. He's asked to shoot through the gap and penetrate the backfield. As a defensive tackle gets older, he loses the ability to run. In a 3-4, the nose tackle is more of a wrestler. Strength is more important than leg speed for a two-gapping nose tackle.
This is the reason that Cody will not be a Saint next year. I really don't know how else to explain this to you.
Also, Saints opponents are always playing from behind because our offense is so good. Therefore, we need DT's that can rush the passer, which Cody cannot do. It's a new NFL Canton. Stopping the run and running the ball are the old school way of winning. Rushing the passer, passing the ball, and defending the pass are the new school way. The pick will be DE, DT with rush capabilities or Athletic OLB that can defend the pass. Think Sean Witherspoon.

jeanpierre · 02-24-2010, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

The pick will be DE, DT with rush capabilities or Athletic OLB that can defend the pass.

If need determines the pick, then yes...

CantonLegend · 02-24-2010, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

In a 4-3, the nose tackle isn't two-gapping. He's asked to shoot through the gap and penetrate the backfield. As a defensive tackle gets older, he loses the ability to run. In a 3-4, the nose tackle is more of a wrestler. Strength is more important than leg speed for a two-gapping nose tackle.
This is the reason that Cody will not be a Saint next year. I really don't know how else to explain this to you.
Also, Saints opponents are always playing from behind because our offense is so good. Therefore, we need DT's that can rush the passer, which Cody cannot do. It's a new NFL Canton. Stopping the run and running the ball are the old school way of winning. Rushing the passer, passing the ball, and defending the pass are the new school way. The pick will be DE, DT with rush capabilities or Athletic OLB that can defend the pass. Think Sean Witherspoon.

guess what defense we played the majority of the super bowl......go ahead....i'll give you awhile to guess

let me give you a hint....it wasnt the 4-3

jeanpierre · 02-24-2010, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

guess what defense we played the majority of the super bowl......go ahead....i'll give you awhile to guess

let me give you a hint....it wasnt the 4-3

It was the "we-going-be-all-up-in-that-@$$-and-make-you-colts-our-personal-kid-hand-puppet-defense?!?"

CantonLegend · 02-24-2010, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

In a 4-3, the nose tackle isn't two-gapping. He's asked to shoot through the gap and penetrate the backfield. As a defensive tackle gets older, he loses the ability to run. In a 3-4, the nose tackle is more of a wrestler. Strength is more important than leg speed for a two-gapping nose tackle.
This is the reason that Cody will not be a Saint next year. I really don't know how else to explain this to you.

alright times up......in most 4-3 defenses they have smaller DTs that rush the passer because they rely so heavily on a 4 man rush by the down linemen.......however, the saints defense blitzed nearly 50% of all the snaps they were on the field this season. 2nd in the league in blitzes

many of our blitzes were picked up because our defensive linemen were not able to control more than 1 blocker at a time which is the sole assignment for a true NT. Cody demands more double teams than any other defensive lineman in college because of his size alone, not to mention his freakish agility for being so big.

It's a new NFL Canton. Stopping the run and running the ball are the old school way of winning.

for the most part you're right. but we play 6 games against teams in our own division. the same division that houses the 7th, 10th, and 14th best running backs in the league. now maybe stopping the run doesnt matter to the average fan because it doesnt score as effectively as passing, but teams that ran the ball controlled the pace against us

look at teams like the rams, panthers, falcons, dolphins, and cowboys

running may not win games like it used to, but it sure as hell keeps our offense off the field

Rushing the passer, passing the ball, and defending the pass are the new school way. The pick will be DE, DT with rush capabilities or Athletic OLB that can defend the pass. Think Sean Witherspoon.

an OLB? to start over who? fujita? shanle? arnoux? dunbar? evans?

which LB are we going to replace? and why would we want to replace starters like fujita or shanle when we have bigger issues like NT and DE

02-24-2010, 04:33 PM	#1
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: 2010 NFL Draft In a 4-3, the nose tackle isn't two-gapping. He's asked to shoot through the gap and penetrate the backfield. As a defensive tackle gets older, he loses the ability to run. In a 3-4, the nose tackle is more of a wrestler. Strength is more important than leg speed for a two-gapping nose tackle. This is the reason that Cody will not be a Saint next year. I really don't know how else to explain this to you. Also, Saints opponents are always playing from behind because our offense is so good. Therefore, we need DT's that can rush the passer, which Cody cannot do. It's a new NFL Canton. Stopping the run and running the ball are the old school way of winning. Rushing the passer, passing the ball, and defending the pass are the new school way. The pick will be DE, DT with rush capabilities or Athletic OLB that can defend the pass. Think Sean Witherspoon.
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02-24-2010, 06:02 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by stockman311 The pick will be DE, DT with rush capabilities or Athletic OLB that can defend the pass. If need determines the pick, then yes...

02-24-2010, 06:30 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by stockman311 In a 4-3, the nose tackle isn't two-gapping. He's asked to shoot through the gap and penetrate the backfield. As a defensive tackle gets older, he loses the ability to run. In a 3-4, the nose tackle is more of a wrestler. Strength is more important than leg speed for a two-gapping nose tackle. This is the reason that Cody will not be a Saint next year. I really don't know how else to explain this to you. Also, Saints opponents are always playing from behind because our offense is so good. Therefore, we need DT's that can rush the passer, which Cody cannot do. It's a new NFL Canton. Stopping the run and running the ball are the old school way of winning. Rushing the passer, passing the ball, and defending the pass are the new school way. The pick will be DE, DT with rush capabilities or Athletic OLB that can defend the pass. Think Sean Witherspoon. guess what defense we played the majority of the super bowl......go ahead....i'll give you awhile to guess let me give you a hint....it wasnt the 4-3

02-24-2010, 06:36 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend guess what defense we played the majority of the super bowl......go ahead....i'll give you awhile to guess let me give you a hint....it wasnt the 4-3 It was the "we-going-be-all-up-in-that-@$$-and-make-you-colts-our-personal-kid-hand-puppet-defense?!?"

02-24-2010, 07:11 PM	#5
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by stockman311 In a 4-3, the nose tackle isn't two-gapping. He's asked to shoot through the gap and penetrate the backfield. As a defensive tackle gets older, he loses the ability to run. In a 3-4, the nose tackle is more of a wrestler. Strength is more important than leg speed for a two-gapping nose tackle. This is the reason that Cody will not be a Saint next year. I really don't know how else to explain this to you. alright times up......in most 4-3 defenses they have smaller DTs that rush the passer because they rely so heavily on a 4 man rush by the down linemen.......however, the saints defense blitzed nearly 50% of all the snaps they were on the field this season. 2nd in the league in blitzes many of our blitzes were picked up because our defensive linemen were not able to control more than 1 blocker at a time which is the sole assignment for a true NT. Cody demands more double teams than any other defensive lineman in college because of his size alone, not to mention his freakish agility for being so big. It's a new NFL Canton. Stopping the run and running the ball are the old school way of winning. for the most part you're right. but we play 6 games against teams in our own division. the same division that houses the 7th, 10th, and 14th best running backs in the league. now maybe stopping the run doesnt matter to the average fan because it doesnt score as effectively as passing, but teams that ran the ball controlled the pace against us look at teams like the rams, panthers, falcons, dolphins, and cowboys running may not win games like it used to, but it sure as hell keeps our offense off the field Rushing the passer, passing the ball, and defending the pass are the new school way. The pick will be DE, DT with rush capabilities or Athletic OLB that can defend the pass. Think Sean Witherspoon. an OLB? to start over who? fujita? shanle? arnoux? dunbar? evans? which LB are we going to replace? and why would we want to replace starters like fujita or shanle when we have bigger issues like NT and DE
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