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I dont think you can take a rookie and sit him 3-4 years these days.With the new rookie pay scale it would be a massive mistake imo. You need to make the most of having a QB on a rookie deal to bring in the vets to help him. The Colts got really lucky that Luck(no pun intended) fell to them as Manning was nearing the end. If you want Bridgewater i think you can tell him he will sit for a year,max 2 years and still have 3 years on the rookie deal

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Under the old pay system though. I just dont think the benefit is there in sitting a young QB these days

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Pass in 1st. Murray in the 3rd. Maybe Garoppolo in the 2nd (but he'll be gone).

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Teddy Bridgewater is the only QB IMO that is a first round talent. even then i have ranked at the end of the first top of the second

so thats my BPA question .

if we did take a QB i hope it is a ransom situation :)

If i were to pick one to sit and develop It would pick between Carr or Zach

Sleeper UDFA?

Brett Smith QB Wyoming 6'2" 205 4.51

completed 62.6 percent of his passes for 3,375 yards. He threw 29 TDs and and 11 interceptions. In three seasons, Smith threw 76 TDs and only 28 picks. He's accurate, consistent, durable and a pretty good arm.

I still believe SP has his goal set already with the kid from Tulane

The average yearly salary for a player selected in the first round of the 2013 draft was $2,776,787.70. In 2010, the last year of the old collective bargaining agreement, the average yearly salary for a player selected in the first round was $4,848,126.25.

How Rookie Wage Scale Has Changed the Way NFL Teams Draft | Bleacher Report

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back to players with sand in their pants. late round prospect

Beau Allen NT Wisconsin 6024 333

1.65-second unofficial 10-yard split
bench 30 reps
vertical jump of 31 inches dam

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I've never seen this ESPN show Draft Academy before... Where the hell have I been?! Pierre Desir is looking pretty damn good to me now. He'd fit in considering we already have a Haitian from a small school by the name of Junior Goddamn Galette.

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I really like Desir as well. Small school prospect that is getting overlooked. He'd be a first rounder IMO if he went to a division 1 school.

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Desir is projected as a 3rd or 4th rounder, I believe...

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He's practically a Keenan Lewis clone and he's settled down with a wife and 2 daughters. Great character guy and a phenomenal athlete.

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Maybe a clone size wise in a way, but their games are not the same at all. Both Good & physical but desir has way better ball skills. Desir's reaction/closing speed is pretty awesome & consistently locates the ball in air and makes the catch away from his body, something you rarely see lewis do. Pierre is a more of a true ball hawk. But that is one thing i did love about him...gotta love a family man, tend to carry themselves to a higher standard. You wont have the off field issues. He transfered from washburn to lindenwood to be closer to family so he could better care for his daughters & put NFL plans on the backburner. Washburn wouldnt release him from his scholarship and wasnt eligible to receive support from lindenwood. Pierre ended up having to work as a janitor & perform other jobs to build finances. Gotta pull for a family man with his story...great guy. He Didnt think he'd have a shot after transferring but still worked hard.

Funny thing is Pierre actually was recruited by Mizzou, Kansas, & Michigan State(him & dennard would have been something) but academically ineligible.

Desir would be a great selection, especially since there wouldnt be a dire need to start him right away & let champ/keenan coach him up, let him play as the nickel then overtake champ at some point in the next 2 years. He may not be there in round 2 when we pick again though.

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I keep seeing plenty of 'experts' saying/mocking we should get Verrett as a Nickel corner. I really do not see the need myself,surly the reason we matched the Falcons offer sheet to Bush was that when we drop into sub packages it will be a three Safety out there with Vaccaro,Bush and Byrd with Lewis and probably Bailey. I get picking up a tall rangy CB like Baptise,McGill or Desir in rounds 2-4 or a later project pick to play behind White,Robinson and Bailey for a year. I know you can never have enough quality at CB and Linemen but surely there are bigger needs if the BPA is a close call

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Verrett offers one thing no other CB in the draft offers besides speed. unbelievable quickness. He has to be among the best CB in the past ten years when you are talking reaction time.

Any WR 6'0" or shorter that is a speed burner should not be an issue man on man. That why you draft a guy like this. man coverage on the fastest WR of average height. Let Lewis cover the tall guys and get safety help if they have speed also. Verrett is good enough to leave out there alone on the jitter bugs 90% of the time.

We do not have a CB that can cover these players. Plus he has no problem in run support and he is a solid tackler. Unlike most of the CB in the mid rounds.

Round 2/3

Baptise and McGill are not known for aggressive play and tackling skills are questionable. McGill does have a bit of a injury history also. Baptise is just learning the position plus has the best hands in the group.

Desir is a solid gamble. but his shuttle and cone drills were less than impressive. If i was to go with his combine numbers the word explosive would not come to mind.

How about the Gaines out of Rice. The kid just looks so smooth but he has aggressiveness issues also. But for the whole package he seems to the best package to gamble on.

Phillip Gaines would get my vote followed closely by Baptise then Desir

The best DB in 2/3 range is Deon Buccannon Washington St. hands down the best hands of any safety or CB in this range. Baptise is a close second. Aggressiveness is not an issue, you actually need to calm him down a bit.

Rounds 4-6

This is the area i think that could give you the biggest bang for your buck.
in the next few rounds Walt Aikens and Dontae Johnson. Then you have an injury flier option on Aaron Colvin

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Just watched my first Kyle Fuller highlight video. I like this guy in round 1.

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woah

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My wish is a speedy linebacker (duh) but the way this kid comes up in run support.... I could get two wishes granted in one pick!!

Besides, plenty of talent at WR in round 2-3.

Still think we trade up into round 2 or three this year.

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Great point JP. I heard Attachou on NFL radio this weekend discussing why he's so NFL ready. His college coach was an NFL coach who taught him how to study and prepare. I think this type of insight is often overlooked by the talking heads as many of us.

That's a kid worth trading up for!

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4 days and counting

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Too long.

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Lol with 4 days til the draft?? We gotta get you up to speed bud. Yea i think the only CB's worth drafting in the 1st are Justin Gilbert, Jason Verrett, Darqueze Dennard & Kyle Fuller.

My top 10 CB's in order would have to be as follows:

1.) Justin Gilbert - Oklahoma State (needs work on tackling)
2.) Darqueze Dennard - Michigan St.
3.) Jason Verrett - TCU
4.) Kyle Fuller - Virginia Tech
5.) Bradley Roby - Ohio St.
6.) Stanley Jean-Baptiste - Nebraska
7.) Pierre Desir - Lindenwood
8.) Aaron Colvin - Oklahoma
9.) Keith Mcgill - Utah
10a.) Walt Aikens - Liberty
10b.) Phillip Gaines - Rice

Based on talent, value & who i'd prefer. Would love to get any one of these guys. Others i could be happy with as well but thats my top 10...

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1.) Justin Gilbert - Oklahoma State (needs work on tackling)
2.) Darqueze Dennard - Michigan St.

Deone Bucannon, Washington St.

3.) Jason Verrett - TCU

Calvin Pryor, Louisville

4.) Kyle Fuller - Virginia Tech
5.) Bradley Roby - Ohio St.

Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama

6.) Phillip Gaines - Rice
7.) Stanley Jean-Baptiste - Nebraska
8.) Pierre Desir - Lindenwood
9.) Keith Mcgill - Utah

Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois

10a.) Walt Aikens - Liberty
10b.)Aaron Colvin - Oklahoma - injury

Dontae Johnson, NC State

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Reports are out Cooks may not be available at our pick. I do not want a wide receiver that we have to hope on, we need a sure thing. I'm hoping for Cooks, Verret, Denard, or Ford.

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I have to say... If i was ranking DB in general, not just CB, that would basically mirror my ranking or come damn near close. And dontae would be there as a versatile cb/s DB.

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Nice. I'd love(no pun intended) to add another name to my list. Let me check out some film.

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"I got a workout with the Saints. Yeah!!!"

Saints | Worked out Telvin Smith - NFL Hot off the Wire

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Nice, I wouldn't mind taking Smith at all. He's kind of undersized for a LBer (I believe he's under 220 pounds) but he's aggressive as hell and very good in coverage, which is something we need in our linebackers.

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I like Telvin too. What I like most, is we could grab him in the 3rd.

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I WOULD STILL TAKE BUCANNON OVER HIM.

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I've got it figured out 100%. Saints need Beckam in the 1st, Landry in the 2nd, Jeremy Hill in the 3rd, Ego Ferguson in the 4th and Barrow in the 5th. Wait Beckam won't be there. Damn. Lemme rethink. I almost had it figured out. Anyone else like the direction?