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hagan714 03-28-2014 06:50 AM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Georgia Tech Pro Day Tomorrow...Looking forward to Jerry Attaochu being healthy and showing what he's about in the physical disciplines...

CMGd Single Player - AJC

i been checking out your boy and i am starting to warm up to the idea.

jeanpierre 03-28-2014 08:29 AM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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i been checking out your boy and i am starting to warm up to the idea.

He can play all four (4) linebacker positons!!!

jeanpierre 03-28-2014 07:21 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Okay, starting to feel like this guy is the under-the-radar wide receiver that we may draft...

Been looking at this size, skills, ability to geaux up and get the ball; then I saw this interview...


papz 03-29-2014 10:17 AM

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Auburn edge rusher Dee Ford has been told he's going in "the 20 to 30 range."

In a candid interview with NFL.com, Ford revealed that Philadelphia and New Orleans have expressed the most interest in his services. He has already worked out with the Patriots, and has the Colts and Bucs coming up. "Other than that, I have a lot of teams interested," Ford said. "I think the Senior Bowl gave teams all they needed to see. The next step will be these private workouts once these pro days start to narrow down."

Source: NFL.com

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lee909 03-29-2014 10:22 AM

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Why is the offseason so long

Im sick of sitting in the corner shaking like a addict each sunday.Even preseason will do

ChrisXVI 03-29-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 585962)
Auburn edge rusher Dee Ford has been told he's going in "the 20 to 30 range."



In a candid interview with NFL.com, Ford revealed that Philadelphia and New Orleans have expressed the most interest in his services. He has already worked out with the Patriots, and has the Colts and Bucs coming up. "Other than that, I have a lot of teams interested," Ford said. "I think the Senior Bowl gave teams all they needed to see. The next step will be these private workouts once these pro days start to narrow down."



Source: NFL.com



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I go back and forth when it comes to Dee Ford. If we're going to use our first-rounder on an edge rusher then part of me would like someone more well-rounded like Kyle Van Noy who excels in coverage as well as rushing the passer... I don't care if the "experts" don't project Van Noy as a first-rounder. I don't know... It's all a crap-shoot and thank God I don't have to be in Loomis's shoes.

Cruize 03-29-2014 04:04 PM

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[QUOTE=ChrisXVI;585968]If we're going to use our first-rounder on an edge rusher then part of me would like someone more well-rounded like Kyle Van Noy who excels in coverage as well as rushing the passer... /QUOTE]

While KVN may be more rounded, Ford is WAY more of impact player. The Saints need impact and playmakers on defene.

1. NT Nix - BPA and adds to the best young DL rotation in the NFL.
2. CB Jean-Baptiste - Playmaker/Shutdown CB with size.
3. C Swanson - Anchors the line for years to come.
4. SS Dixon - BPA. Ryan likes 3 safties. Insurance for KV's health.
5. K Boswell - Kicking problem solved.
5. OLB Powell - 2nd round ability. Drops due to injury's. Mean/forceful.
6. WR Janis - Colston part deux with more speed.

halloween 65 03-29-2014 08:46 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 585968)
I go back and forth when it comes to Dee Ford. If we're going to use our first-rounder on an edge rusher then part of me would like someone more well-rounded like Kyle Van Noy who excels in coverage as well as rushing the passer... I don't care if the "experts" don't project Van Noy as a first-rounder. I don't know... It's all a crap-shoot and thank God I don't have to be in Loomis's shoes.

I am not a big Ford fan, if we draft him he might prove me wrong, he played on a line that got a great push up the middle, while our D-line has done real well I truely believe Nix ( if he falls which I don't believe he will )or Hageman would be a much better pick for our D-line. Those 2 would give us a very disruptive front line.

jeanpierre 03-29-2014 10:34 PM

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NFL pro day results: Jeremiah Attaochu wows scouts at Georgia Tech - SBNation.com

jeanpierre 03-30-2014 08:15 AM

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Cherokee Tribune - Attaochu joins Georgia Tech teammates for pro day

He missed the league’s scouting combine last month in Indianapolis, but went through requisite interviews with several NFL teams, including Tennessee, the New York Jets, New Orleans, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Philadelphia and the New York Jets.


Johnson said the team that drafts Attaochu, a science, technology and culture major who ranks as the Atlantic Coast Conference’s No. 5 career leader with 31.5 sacks, won’t regret it.

“He brings the total package. Not only will he be a great player. He’ll be a great representative off the field as well.”

jeanpierre 03-30-2014 08:25 AM

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Draft Prospects Watch List By Round...

Prospects I’d like selected per round are italicized...

My favorite players in this draft are LB Jerimiah Attaochu, WR Jordan Matthews, LB Max Bullough, CB Pierre Desir, CB Walt Aikens...

Most Impressive Combine, ProDay performances have been by LB Max Bullough, OL Russell Bodine, LB Howard Jones and WR Jordan Matthews; and add Jerry Attaochu...

Round 1 (27) C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 234 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Kony Ealy, Missouri; Height; 6’ 4”; Weight: 273 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Xavier Su’a-Filo, OL, UCLA; Height; 6’ 4”; Weight: 307 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 212 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Jerimiah Attaochu, OLB, Ga Tech; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 252 lbs.:bng:

Round 2 (58) JuWuan James, OT, Tennessee; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 311 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 270 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 211 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight 221 lbs.:bng:


Round 3 (91) Weston Richburg, C, Colorado St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 298 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Billy Turner, OT, N Dakota St; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 315 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Devonta Freeman, RB, Florida St; Height: 5’ 8”; Weight 206 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Brandon Thomas, G, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 316 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 249 lbs. :bng:

Round 4 (122) Josh Mauro, DE, Stanford; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 280 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Brent Urban, DL, Virginia; Height: 6’ 7”; Weight: 295 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Kenneth Ladler, FS, Vanderbilt; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 207 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Daniel McCullers, NT, Tennessee; Height: 6’ 7”; Weight: 352 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Jerrick McKinnon, RB, Georgia Southern; Height: 5’ 09”; Weight: 209 lbs.:bng:

Round 5 (155) James White, RB, Wisconsin; Height: 5’ 9”; Weight: 204 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 199 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs. :bng:
Round 5 (155) Tyler Larsen, C, Utah State; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 313 lbs.
Round 5 (157) Russell Bodine, OL, UNC; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 310 lbs.:bng:

Round 6 (186) Aaron Lynch, DE, So Florida; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 249 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Zack Kerr, NT, Delaware; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 334 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 219 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Howard Jones, OLB, Shepherd; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 235 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Justin Britt, OT, Missouri; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 324 lbs. :bng:

Round 7/UDFA Jeff Matthews, QB, Cornell; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 223 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Quincy Enunwa, WR, Nebraska; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 225 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Gabe Ikard, C, Oklahoma; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 304 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Matt Armstrong, C, Grand Valley St; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 302 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Austin Wentworth, OG, Fresno St; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 315 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Zach Fulton, OG, Tennessee; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 316 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Donald Hawkins, OT, Texas; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 301 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Corneilus Lucas, OT, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 8”; Weight: 316 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Zach Moore, DE, Concordia-St. Paul; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 269 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Caleb Lavey, ILB, Oklahoma St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 240 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Marcus Whitfield, OLB, Maryland; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 236 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Shaquil Barrett, OLB, Colorado St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 260 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Marquis Flowers, OLB, Arizona; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 236 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Sean Parker, DB, Washington; Height: 5’ 10”; Weight: 193 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Jonathan Dowling, DB, West Kentucky: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Ty Zimmerman, DB, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 200 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Richie Leone, P, Houston; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 211 lbs.

hagan714 03-30-2014 09:33 PM

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Round 1 - 27

So many freaking factors, Just give me impact, a game changer, the keystone

But from here on out i know what i want and think i have been honest as to availability and reach.

Round 2 - 58 - Weston Richburg OC/OG Colorado St, 6033 300 5.10


Pittsburgh defensive tackle Aaron Donald gets all the raves after the senior bowl and sky rockets up draft boards. BUT Weston was the only player to handle Donald all week at the Senior Bowl. So there is proof once again OC get no respect! He lightning quick and has all the bag of tricks, better yet he knows how to use them. football IQ is second to none. arm length 33 3/8 nice. Durable, 49-game starter. also seeing duty at guard and tackle.

How he fits - sweeps, screens and shows impressive quickness and change of direction Makes all of the line calls and keeps his head on a swivel to help teammates when uncovered.

By no means a finished product either. needs to add some bulk and work on blocking at the second level and run blocking. get him some nasty to his game

Drop off at OC is to great for the saints to wait. besides i will be slightly surprised if he is on the board. coach the kid up and you got something special in the making. next Alex Mack? Maybe not but he’ll be your starting center for the next 10 years.

Round 3 - 91 - Charles Simm RB WVU 6000 214 4.48

ok he doesn’t have a lot of wiggle, but he can hit the home run and he is probably the best running back in terms of running, blocking and combination of catching. Sound familiar? PT JR. Over the years we have learned the worth of a back that can do it all in our offense and well PT aint getting any younger.

You have the Battle between Ingram and Robinson for the power back roll. Also there is Cadet, a player i have been waiting for but i have just about given up on,

He aint Darren but he can help fill the void. One of the best all around backs in recent years,

Round 4 - 126 - Dontae Johnson; CB/S, North Carolina State 6021 200 4.45

Johnson is an underrated ball hawk who has played both corner back and safety in college, and he’s also spent time as the team’s slot defender.

Here is my first true Developmental pick for the draft. Here is why

2013: Started all 12 games, with five at corner back and seven at free safety.
2012: Started all 13 games. corner back
2011: Played in 13 games and started two at linebacker in a 4-2-5 lineup.
2010: Played in 12 games and started one.

versatility and plenty of upside to coach with and has played all over the place with a solid level of success at each one. Solid tackling skills, solid run support and coverage ability above average but needs some coaching up and time at one position to develop. 2 to 3 three years you might have a gem for the draft.

I am gambling that he will last this long and hope his measurable do not move him higher up the board. At the same time i maybe reaching. lol

Man Crush from the Beauty shows: 11.06 60-yard shuttle. dam.

Round 5 - 167 - Russell Bodine OG/OC North Carolina 6031 310 5.18


Nasty Nasty Nasty. Love a guy that likes to finish blocks. Good initial quickness and power and projects nicely as either a center or guard. Very good at sealing and turning defenders in the run game to create small creases. Pass Blocking needs work but nothing coaching can not solve. Works well at the second level. Should be ready to step in when all the big contract at OG are up for renewal. In the mean time you have a swing man at both OG position and can step right in at OC in a pinch without to much of a hitch in the offense.

Saints go from a BIG ? in the middle to problem solved in just two picks.

Round 5 - 169 - Kevin Norwood WR Alabama 6020 198 4.48

possession receiver, reliable hands, good route runner, Plenty of experience in the slot, outside he works the side lines extremely well, adjusts well to poorly placed balls, impressive catch radius.solid effort in his blocking game. Nothing to amaze you just a solid all around WR. with a draft so deep at WR there is no way he would be around in any other draft this late. BARGAIN BASEMENT SHOPPING


Round 6 - 202 - Deandre Coleman DT/DE UCLA 6046 314 5.06 (1.73)

Versatile, violent break-out interior disruptor. Great size with decent length and overall athleticism...... blah blah blah. Run stuffer at this point that needs to get some serious coaching up in the pass rush department. then he got to Senior Bowl he pushed Oklahoma's Gabe Ikard and Arkansas' Travis Swanson all over the field. but it left people questioning where this passionate play all season. In other words are you getting a contract year only type of player.
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BUT the talent is there so here is my "wild card" pick as diamond in the rough that can sever as part of the rotation and as time goes by and the coaching sinks in and the players boot in his butt, we may have found ourselves with a solid rotation when Bunkley comes up for contract renewal. If he is a player that preforms when it is a money year you have not risk much.

Take the high risk high rewards in this round. remember he came into the season as a solid third round prospect with a bullet. started just 13 games over his career

jeanpierre 03-31-2014 07:42 AM

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Richburg warrants a late second round pick, but as deep as the skill positions are, I'd pass and grab Bodine in the 5th round and develop him as Armstead...

Sims is ago but the Georgia Southern RB Jerrick McKinnon has more upside (strength, speed) and can be had with a fourth round pick; and we have time this season with the RB depth we have...

If Norwood slips to the fifth as many project, it'd be a shame because he has the makings of a long pro career with his skill set and had better speed than he's given credit; he'll have to work, but he'll be a great teammate...

Don't get nor like players like Coleman; all that talent, and you hate to use the word lazy without knowing a player, but that's what comes to mind, and for what the NFL life can do for someone, can't stand players that take it for granted...

Dontae Johnson ever gets settled at a position and learns his craft, he's gonna surprise; and if he works hard, he'd be comparable to Richard Sherman, taken late, developed, top flight at his positon...

jeanpierre 03-31-2014 08:30 AM

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Saints have been awarded ten (10) compensatory picks since practice began with Marques Colston being the only player of significance...


Team Year Name Round Pick Player Position College
Saints1995Travis Davis734242DBNotre Dame
Saints1996Terry Guess533165WRGardner-Webb
Saints1996Todd Malone637204WRAlabama
Saints1996Henry Lusk737246TEUtah
Saints1998Ron Warner750239LBKansas
Saints2000Chad Morton537166RBUSC
Saints2000Sherrod Gideon634200WRSo. Miss
Saints2004Colby Bockwoldt739240LBBYU
Saints2006Marques Colston744252WRHofstra
Saints2011Nate Bussey740243LBIllinois

In contrast, Baltimore, since their existence in 1997 (Compensatory Picks began in 1994) lead the league with Thirty-seven Picks!

Source: DraftHistory.com

hagan714 03-31-2014 09:43 AM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586151)
Richburg warrants a late second round pick, but as deep as the skill positions are, I'd pass and grab Bodine in the 5th round and develop him as Armstead...

Bodine is not ready to start in the nfl and needs work. we need a starter right now.
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586151)
Sims is ago but the Georgia Southern RB Jerrick McKinnon has more upside (strength, speed) and can be had with a fourth round pick; and we have time this season with the RB depth we have...

Simms is the total package ready to go from day one.
Jerrick McKinnon read-option quarterback, Raw at RB and WR not to mention abilty to block. great athlete but needs a ton of work. I am looking at win now before Drew is done here.

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586151)
Don't get nor like players like Coleman; all that talent, and you hate to use the word lazy without knowing a player, but that's what comes to mind, and for what the NFL life can do for someone, can't stand players that take it for granted...

That is why i put a disclaimer on the kid but i felt that about Jenkins last year and a light went on.

But i also look at the fact that the the entire defense was under performing and there was reported issues in the locker room and coaching. in other words cal was all messed up inside and it showed on the field, Bears went 0-9 in the Pac-12 in the first season for coach Sonny Dykes. It is a little difficult learning three different systems in 3 years , which also changed his role from year to year. even with that he was a pretty solid contributor all year and also got more attention from other teams than the year before.

There is the flip side of the story also, if the program and his training was not so messed up i would not go with him as a diamond in a rough which has its own risk but a wild card diamond in the rough is a bit riskier i admit. It is the upside with the kid at this point in the draft is to great not to justify the risks involved with the pick when you look at the big picture. it is a gut thing but i think the senior bowl was a fresh new start for him.

roll the dice and see what the interviews reveal

jeanpierre 03-31-2014 10:42 AM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 586161)
Bodine is not ready to start in the nfl and needs work. we need a starter right now.

Not so sure Richburg is ready to call plays right away, either; I like the guy, but for a second rounder, in this special, unusually deep draft, take a first round wide receiver any other year in the second round...


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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 586161)
Simms is the total package ready to go from day one.
Jerrick McKinnon read-option quarterback, Raw at RB and WR not to mention abilty to block. great athlete but needs a ton of work. I am looking at win now before Drew is done here.

Kev, we've got PT, Ingram, Robinson, and Cadet; so the kid can take most of the season to learn the offense, the pro game...look again at his measurables - unbelievable speed/strength combination...


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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 586161)
That is why i put a disclaimer on the kid but i felt that about Jenkins last year and a light went on.

But i also look at the fact that the the entire defense was under performing and there was reported issues in the locker room and coaching. in other words cal was all messed up inside and it showed on the field, Bears went 0-9 in the Pac-12 in the first season for coach Sonny Dykes. It is a little difficult learning three different systems in 3 years , which also changed his role from year to year. even with that he was a pretty solid contributor all year and also got more attention from other teams than the year before.

There is the flip side of the story also, if the program and his training was not so messed up i would not go with him as a diamond in a rough which has its own risk but a wild card diamond in the rough is a bit riskier i admit. It is the upside with the kid at this point in the draft is to great not to justify the risks involved with the pick when you look at the big picture. it is a gut thing but i think the senior bowl was a fresh new start for him.

roll the dice and see what the interviews reveal

Had forgotten about the "transition" Cal was going through, Thank You for reminding, correcting me...

I'd still rather roll the dice on an Offensive Lineman as our Depth Chart is pretty thin there...

hagan714 04-01-2014 05:42 AM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586166)
Not so sure Richburg is ready to call plays right away, either; I like the guy, but for a second rounder, in this special, unusually deep draft, take a first round wide receiver any other year in the second round...

He is the option IMO at this point to upgrade an obvious hole at OC unless the saints do something in FA ASAP


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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586166)
I'd still rather roll the dice on an Offensive Lineman as our Depth Chart is pretty thin there...



Ok here you go a long shot that for some reason every year the saints throw a curve ball at us in the draft so here is a possible curve ball

That's why Duvernay-Tardif, who played left tackle at prestigious McGill University, has been pegged not only as the top available talent in the Canadian Football League draft, but also has a great chance to be selected relatively high in the NFL draft this May.
So who is this mystery man? Duvernay-Tardif — who goes by "Larry" — came to McGill as a 253-pound defensive lineman as a freshman before being switched over to the offensive side. Since then, he has settled in at left tackle and become a dominant force. First, CFL teams started paying notice, but now the NFL is all over him, too.
Nine NFL teams watched Duvernay-Tardif at a private workout on Thursday and saw a 6-foot-5, 298-pound player turn in 40-yard dash times of 4.94 to 5.08 seconds, post 34 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press, turn in a 4.59-second shuttle time and broad jump 9 feet, 6 inches. The teams attending — Philadelphia Eagles, San Francisco 49ers, Buffalo Bills, Chicago Bears, Oakland Raiders, Green Bay Packers, New York Jets, Kansas City Chiefs and Arizona Cardinals — had to come away impressed.



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...pTsSgAZ7jQtDMD


could he be our next say what pick in the draft. Oh by the way any OL with injury history or the remarks "if heathy" late in the draft gets removed from my boards. as if that matter.

hagan714 04-01-2014 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586166)
Kev, we've got PT, Ingram, Robinson, and Cadet; so the kid can take most of the season to learn the offense, the pro game...look again at his measurables - unbelievable speed/strength combination...

Ingram vs. Robinson - Next year i think one of the two will be gone. will Robinson continue to hold onto the ball? can Ingram finally becone "The back" we drafted him for?

PT aint any younger and Cadet has been holding onto a roster spot by the skin of his teeth since he got here.

I would go with replacing Cadet if your boy can do some return duties.

Simms is a the replacement for Darren. he aint Darren but like Darren you can line him up all over the p;ace.

2015 PT Simms McKinnon and the winner of the Ingram vs. Robinson fight.

the only area of immediate need IMO is OC and you want a player that can start right away that has the lowest learning curve. after that anything goes. The major need for a youth movement is over for the most part. so multi draft picks at any position even safety is cool with me as long as it is a BPA on the board. Depth will be available in this draft.

So draft both i am fine with it

Darren gets replaced and Cadet can walk at this point, he has made this team by the skin of his teeth for a couple so years now and i have not seen anything he can do that can not be replaced and easily up graded.

Simms has the chance to be the biggest all around impact player in this draft. he might not be Darren but he is just a versatile.

Dump Cadet for your kid is cool with me. oh can he do returns while he is learning? if so i say thats a no brainer

jeanpierre 04-01-2014 09:48 AM

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And if DLP re-signs with the Saints?!?

He hasn't had a sudden demand on the market as expected...

He was a journey offensive lineman prior to joining the Saints...

He may realize that this is his best opportunity for success in the NFL...

jeanpierre 04-01-2014 10:31 AM

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Jerimiah Attaochu has moved into Scouts, Inc Top 32 Rankings...

Utah_Saint 04-01-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586327)
Jerimiah Attaochu has moved into Scouts, Inc Top 32 Rankings...

You may be affecting the rankings.

hagan714 04-01-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586317)
And if DLP re-signs with the Saints?!?

He hasn't had a sudden demand on the market as expected...

He was a journey offensive lineman prior to joining the Saints...

He may realize that this is his best opportunity for success in the NFL...

DLP is a serviceable OC i do not care what the rankings. i would still draft my guys. aint glamorous but it works for the next ten years

jeanpierre 04-01-2014 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 586342)
You may be affecting the rankings.


My Drum Beating is that loud?!? LOL...

He confirmed his speed at the pro day...

Really liked that the Saints were there...

lee909 04-02-2014 07:31 AM

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Source: Sam Houston State RB Timothy Flanders to visit Saints

National Football Post*By*Aaron Wilson1 hour ago

Sam Houston*State All-American running backTimothy Flanders*is going to visit the*New Orleans Saints, according to a league source.

Flanders rushed for 1,430 yards and 14 touchdowns last season.

He fnished his career with 5,664 rushing yards and 420 points scored with 66 rushing touchdowns.

Flanders is the all-time leading rusher in Southland Conference history.

He began his career at Kansas State where he redshirted before transferring to Sam Houston State.

He rushed for 2,135 yards and 34 touchdowns as a high school senior at Midwest City High in Oklahoma.

The 5-foot-9, 210-pounder ran the 40-yard dash in 4.56 seconds at his campus Pro Day workout, improving upon his 4.75 clocking at the NFL scouting combine.

At the combine, he bench pressed 225 pounds 20 times and had a 32-inch vertical leap and a 9-5 broad jump.

Follow me on Twitter:*@RavensInsider

Aaron Wilson covers the Ravens for The Baltimore Sun

hagan714 04-02-2014 07:45 AM

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now this sounds like a player the saints go after after the draft for sure. talk about a bowling ball 5085 207. wonder what impact physics works out to be

pro day
4.56 in the 40
1.55 in 10? not bad at all

finally an invite! thanks lee

Sarik 04-02-2014 05:13 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
I had posted this in response to Oak's thread on WR's & thought I would drop it on here to get my thoughts out there. I like the input from Hagan714, Danno, and jeanpierre as well and for the most part the feeling is mutual. But my post is more offensive(WR) focused. Here it is......


"Agreed. I know some people here are high on Jordan Matthews & others in the 2nd-3rd Rd, but i feel like Allen Robinson(6'3, 215lb) out of Penn St is someone we should really be targeting in the 2nd. He may not be the biggest name but the kid is my favorite player in this years draft. Reminds me of a combination of Josh Gordon & Jordy Nelson ...little slower than Gordon but has big game speed and similar in the aspect of Size/Big play making ability & that he will be a 21 year old rookie. Allen is a true # 1 wr and can go up and make the big catch(see michigan game, etc.) something we really struggled with in the playoffs and season outside of Jimmy. someone who can step in right away year one and contribute, then be our #1 the following year. I honestly believe he can be a pro bowler and top wr in this league and wouldnt mind if he was selected with our # 27 overall pick just to make sure we grab him although id much rather go CB/LB 1st rd and get him in the 2nd.

Watch the kids tape....in the last 2 years he was consecutively honored as Big Ten receiver of the year while putting up a total of:

174 rec, 2,450 yds, 17 TD

This was also accomplished in a pro style offense with Mcgloin throwing to him, would love to see what Brees and Sean can do with him.

Other WR guys id like to see in the black & gold AFTER the 1st Rd would include:

Cody Latimer - Indiana
Jordan Matthews - Vanderbilt
Jarvis Landry - LSU
Martavis Bryant - Clemson
Brandon Coleman - Rutgers
Jeff Janis - Saginaw Valley St.
Jared Abbrederis - Wisconsin
Ryan Grant - Tulane
Donte Moncrief - Ole Miss.
Chris Boyd - Vandy
L'Damien Washington - Mizzou

And of course i'd be thrilled wit ODB, Davante, Cooks, Watkins, Evans, Benjamin but they're more likely to go round 1 & My post is targeting guys we could grab round 2 & so on.

Thoughts? Would like to hear some of yalls favorite WR's are and where you would like to draft them."

Sarik 04-02-2014 05:18 PM

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Jeanpierre i already know your guy would be matthews, which is definitely justified. Solid pick.

Sarik 04-02-2014 05:22 PM

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I'd post my top 140 prospects if anyone would be interested? Like to make my own draft board to see value that falls into later rds(rd 5 or later) Im big on the draft and keep track of each player to mark off my board and where they land

lsutigerfan 04-02-2014 06:58 PM

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I'm starting to really warm up to Ryan Shazier, but as an ILB not OLB.

Sarik 04-02-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 586605)
I'm starting to really warm up to Ryan Shazier, but as an ILB not OLB.

+1. agreed, I'd be absolutely good with that. Me & my brother were saying the same thing. Id like him a whole lot more as an ILB in a 3-4. We're definitely lacking a whole lot more in that area more so than OLB like the media thinks, especially athleticism wise

hagan714 04-02-2014 08:06 PM

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Allen Robinson ahhh the forgotten man lol

i love the skill set. he aint a burner but plays really tough.

Round one knock i have on him is his lack of consistency. he runs hot and cold but that could be do to a lot factors at penn state so i give him a flyer there.

biggest issue is route running skill. to give him the benefit of doubt i would say they are ok at best. you draft him in round one based on mostly upside.

if he get this straighten up he has a chance of being something really special.

Cody Latimer - Indiana - now i have my eyes on this kid. he could be a major steal in the draft

L'Damien Washington - Mizzou
he is a late round version of Allen Robinson IMO. if the coaching sinks in he has the skill set to be something special at half the risk

all the others are solid players but those two are the ones i am watching and think about the most

Sarik 04-02-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 586615)
Allen Robinson ahhh the forgotten man lol

i love the skill set. he aint a burner but plays really tough.

Round one knock i have on him is his lack of consistency. he runs hot and cold but that could be do to a lot factors at penn state so i give him a flyer there.

biggest issue is route running skill. to give him the benefit of doubt i would say they are ok at best. you draft him in round one based on mostly upside.

if he get this straighten up he has a chance of being something really special.

Cody Latimer - Indiana - now i have my eyes on this kid. he could be a major steal in the draft

Agreed, i think Allen Robinson is special, but if he goes to the wrong organization its all over for him, the good thing is route running can be cleaned up. Speed can be deceiving, im more concerned wit in game play/speed than being a workout warrior ha. Seems to be why jarvis landry, jordan matthews and other guys are flying under the radar, its the deepest wr draft for a reason...a few of these guys will turn out to be big time players over some of these bigger names thrown out there.

But latimer, yes! Only bad news on cody, is ppl are starting to recognize him and move him up the boards bc he's getting healthy. The Talent is definitely there, to go along with size. Physical, athletic, good speed & hands. The feeling is mutual my friend. Hopefully teams and organizations continue to sleep on these guys and they fall right into our lap. Smokescreens maybe tho...i guess we'll have to wait until the draft to see teams true value on certain players ha

Yea, like washington as well obviously, but my biggest knock is consistency and he needs to add weight!! Ha. Looks like he's gonna fly away at times lol, i guess the 6'4 length doesnt help

hagan714 04-02-2014 08:51 PM

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Cody Latimer at 6’2” 215lbs with an arm length of 32 5/8” made money at the pro day when he turned in 4.44 40 and athleticism to challenge any wr in the draft. shame he played at IU.

on phase of his game i really like is the dude is a blocker

Route running and tree progression is the key area improvement he needs to work on. but a lot of that could be do to playing at IU.

I thought it was a no brainier in the fifth to pick the kid if he did ok at his pro day. well he blew the doors of the place.

now a third round pick is not that far fetched. if he is there in the fourth round for us i will be amazed and he will be one of the players a top my wish list.

Sarik 04-02-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 586624)
Cody Latimer at 6’2” 215lbs with an arm length of 32 5/8” made money at the pro day when he turned in 4.44 40 and athleticism to challenge any wr in the draft. shame he played at IU.

on phase of his game i really like is the dude is a blocker

Route running and tree progression is the key area improvement he needs to work on. but a lot of that could be do to playing at IU.

I thought it was a no brainier in the fifth to pick the kid if he did ok at his pro day. well he blew the doors of the place.

now a third round pick is not that far fetched. if he is there in the fourth round for us i will be amazed and he will be one of the players a top my wish list.

Yep! Depending on who you ask, he's 6'3 and i'll gladly take that. Yep route running tree is always somethin to get better at. I would not be surprised in the least if he goes 2nd round to a team who covets him and is wr needy(please not carolina!)

But it does look to be 3rd RD at the absolute latest like you said. He's buzzing and shooting up on every analysts draft boards that ive seen, and its definitely justified

jeanpierre 04-02-2014 10:00 PM

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2014 NFL Draft: Week 4 Pro Days takeaways - CBSSports.com

4. Healthy and movin' up. Due to a partially torn hamstring, Georgia Tech pass rusher Jeremiah Attaochu didn't work out at the NFL combine last month, but was good-to-go on Friday for Georgia Tech's pro day. And, as expected, he was impressive. Attaochu ran his 40-yard dash times in the late 4.5, early 4.6 range with a 37.5-inch vertical jump, 4.64 short shuttle and 7.28 three cone drill. His 1.55 10-yard split would have ranked him tops among all linebackers at the combine.

Attaochu, who was born in Nigeria before moving to the Washington, D.C., area, set the Georgia Tech all-time record for career sacks (31.5) and continues to be one of the more underrated prospects in this class. He's extremely active, using his athleticism, motor and heady instincts to win off the edge, collapse inside or find the quarterback whichever way possible. Attaochu is still unrefined in some areas, something he also showed during his pro day performance, but there is definitely some untapped potential there as a 21-yeard old who didn't start playing football until high school. In the late first or early second round, Attaochu is going to make a team that implements a 3-4 defense very happy.

hagan714 04-02-2014 10:09 PM

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beat that drum baby beat that drum

Sarik 04-02-2014 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586636)
2014 NFL Draft: Week 4 Pro Days takeaways - CBSSports.com

4. Healthy and movin' up. Due to a partially torn hamstring, Georgia Tech pass rusher Jeremiah Attaochu didn't work out at the NFL combine last month, but was good-to-go on Friday for Georgia Tech's pro day. And, as expected, he was impressive. Attaochu ran his 40-yard dash times in the late 4.5, early 4.6 range with a 37.5-inch vertical jump, 4.64 short shuttle and 7.28 three cone drill. His 1.55 10-yard split would have ranked him tops among all linebackers at the combine.

Attaochu, who was born in Nigeria before moving to the Washington, D.C., area, set the Georgia Tech all-time record for career sacks (31.5) and continues to be one of the more underrated prospects in this class. He's extremely active, using his athleticism, motor and heady instincts to win off the edge, collapse inside or find the quarterback whichever way possible. Attaochu is still unrefined in some areas, something he also showed during his pro day performance, but there is definitely some untapped potential there as a 21-yeard old who didn't start playing football until high school. In the late first or early second round, Attaochu is going to make a team that implements a 3-4 defense very happy.

Yesir been watchin him for a while, you're bout the only other guy ive seen that has a man crush on him, and you have every reason to feel that way about him haha.

Dood is a straight baller.... Call me crazy but i feel he's better than Kony Ealy & Dee Ford by a wiiide margin yet those 2 are gettin all the hype. ATT(yes i just made that name for him) is so explosive off the line and violent its kinda sad watchin the OT go through torture like that over and over lol.

ATT Reminds me of a much more polished Ziggy Ansah, which is scary cuz he's only getting better.

I believe if healthy he can step in year one and be just as productive as Junior and his upside is much higher as well.

Draft is too exciting this year...

jeanpierre 04-02-2014 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarik (Post 586575)
Jeanpierre i already know your guy would be matthews, which is definitely justified. Solid pick.

Actually Sarik, am as bullish on Ole Miss' Donte Moncrief and Clemson's Martavis Bryant...

My problem with Allen Robinson is that he has adequate speed, injury prone and disappeared in difficult matchups...

Sarik 04-02-2014 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 586646)
Actually Sarik, am as bullish on Ole Miss' Donte Moncrief and Clemson's Martavis Bryant...

My problem with Allen Robinson is that he has adequate speed, injury prone and disappeared in difficult matchups...

Solid pickups as well, also in my shortlist of wr's to grab as listed on my previous post. I like the upside of bryant a little more than moncrief tho... Better speed as well at 6'4..

I agree, 4.6 flat isnt elite but plays much faster, tape confirms that imo.

I think injury, average qb play, having to build chemistry with a new qb and learning new systems had something to do with his inconsistencies even at that he still had a 1400+ yrd season with 11TD's and broke records.

I think people tend to forget he had a new coach and system from 2011-2012 and then had a new qb going into 2013. Could never really get familiar with anything and he's still only 20years old and expected to be a leader on that team... Thats asking a whole heck of a lot outta the kid.

His upside is All-pro and i believe he can definitely achieve that if placed in an organization to succeed like the Saints.

Can be every bit of a larry fitz, jordy nelson, alshon jeffery "type" player which all ran between that 4.5-4.6 time like Allen.

Guess i just have a bigger man crush...watch the tape again and again haha

He has the time to grow and learn, doesnt have to take over at number 1 rite away... just like alshon, Colston can be his brandon marshall for a year or two..

Sarik 04-02-2014 11:45 PM

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I like that even at 20 years old he still carries himself in a professional, mature manner. Doesnt come with off the field issues either...


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