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jeanpierre 04-18-2014 07:15 PM

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Lots of teams looking at Demarcus Lawrence | ProFootballTalk

Please let this be a smoke screen...

lsutigerfan 04-19-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 589107)

I actually like this kid, although I was hoping the 3rd round, but it looks like he is moving into the 2nd round.

lsutigerfan 04-19-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 588894)
I'd rather have Jordan Matthews, Donte Moncrief or Martavis Bryant in the second round - but I can see Payton taking Eastern Illinois Quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo in the second round - if he lasted that long...

Actually like Aaron Murray and he's the reason I DON'T trust Mettenberger as he beat him out at Georgia...

In truth, see the Saints picking prospects I'm not as high on; there's prospects I like better than they may take; and I'm hoping for a situation like last year with the injuries in that other teams' moves, selections force their hand and they end up with the best player for the team...

Last year Saints FO nailed it in the draft, until the last pick at least; this season, I'm hoping for smoke screens and that they take Attaochu and wait for a guy like Aikens in the fourth-fifth round...

Wow, you are actually changing your toon on the Vacarro pick. Nice.

lsutigerfan 04-19-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 588980)
I'm hoping that any interest in Roby is a smokescreen. That guy is not a football player. If we take a CB early it needs to be Verrett.

To me if it's not Dennard or Gilbert it better be Kyle Fuller or don't go CB in the first.

hagan714 04-19-2014 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 589148)
To me if it's not Dennard or Gilbert it better be Kyle Fuller or don't go CB in the first.

Kyle Fuller hmmm the kid makes me nervous in the first for some reason. His reaction time might be the best in the draft after Verrett. his size and and style of play would be a nice fit. he is a carbon copy of Lewis.

i am warming up to the idea.



hagan714 04-19-2014 08:30 PM

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still my ILB/OLB after CJ for the saints. heck draft both :)

this is 2012 before FSU moved him DE in 2013. Which showed his rush abilty but i swear he seemed lost not being at the second level reacting to a play. this is his strong suit. read and react.

this is why i am so high on the kid. coverage skills are the best in the draft. plus he has a nasty attitude at LB.


Just imagine if FSU let him get another year under his belt as a LB.

ok here is 2013 as a DE


I hope the saints think long and hard in the third if he is on the board

jeanpierre 04-19-2014 10:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 589147)
Wow, you are actually changing your toon on the Vacarro pick. Nice.

Here's the thing, I didn't dislike Vacarro, I just liked Ogletree more...

But his selection hastened Roman Harper out of here and we got a premium player at a shallow position; have said as much...

But the entire draft with maybe the exception of taking Rufus Johnson, a clear 43 Right Defense End baffled me when we clearly had need for linebackers and offensive line depth last season as well as the present...

jeanpierre 04-20-2014 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 589171)
still my ILB/OLB after CJ for the saints. heck draft both :)

this is 2012 before FSU moved him DE in 2013. Which showed his rush abilty but i swear he seemed lost not being at the second level reacting to a play. this is his strong suit. read and react.

this is why i am so high on the kid. coverage skills are the best in the draft. plus he has a nasty attitude at LB.

Just imagine if FSU let him get another year under his belt as a LB.

ok here is 2013 as a DE

I hope the saints think long and hard in the third if he is on the board

If it encourages you, Rob Ryan worked out with him - then again...

2014 Pro Days: NFL flocks to Florida State workout - CBSSports.com


"Jones struggled in positional drills, showing less-than-ideal flexibility. He is currently rated as the No. 123 overall prospect and a likely mid-round pick.

A contingent from the New Orleans Saints, including assistant coaches Rob Ryan and Joe Vitt, orchestrated the linebacker drills."



I don't know, we've had Reynaldo Turnbull before - amazing measurables, but, where's the translation to the field?!?

Just had enough players that are, well, you know, Will Smith, professional athlete...

Hooray for you, but where's the consistent football player for my team, eh guy?!?


Chris Borland would be my favorite player in the draft...

...if he had just little more size, athleticism to cover intermediate passing game...

And, before anyone invokes the memory of Sam Mills, remember...

Today's game is way more pass heavy than it was during the dome patrol era, hence Ryan's adaptation of three safeties...


I like Attaochu because he's just really started playing football and in just one Senior Bowl week showed a great deal of physical and mental flexibility...

As we get closer to the draft and things start to congeal, reality is setting in that we'll likely take Shazier, and move him inside to improve the hole we have in the middle...

Now if Morgan Moses falls to 27, that'll make things interesting...

Shazier just seems like another guy that measures well and played well at Ohio State, but will be mediocre like Will Smith at the pro level...

Really have taken a shine to Justin Tripp; he can play inside in the traditional 34 and then play outside in Ryan's 33-Safety Plus formation as he is a very adept pass defender...

Those are the type of linebackers we'll need to improve our defense; Attaochu violent pass rushing is just hard to resist...

Crusader 04-20-2014 01:26 PM

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University of Calgary star Doctor Cassama impresses NFL scouts with workout

The long, painful Calgary winter hasn’t morphed into any semblance of spring just yet.

And in a weird way, it may have benefitted Doc Cassama.

As the University of Calgary Dinos linebacker strode out onto the Rundle College turf Friday morning, ready to prove his pro-day mettle in front of Green Bay Packers scout Tim Terry, amid a light snowfall.

It didn’t help the measurables or his ability to secure the football in positional drills, but what better way to impress a team that plays its games on a Frozen Tundra than show you can deal with the elements?

Paid to evaluate the minute details that separate an NFLer from an also-ran, that fact didn’t escape Terry, the Packers assistant director of pro personnel.

“It was a tough circumstance with the weather — it was a little slick out there — cold and windy …” said Terry, who won a Grey Cup ring in his only CFL season with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in 1999, a 32-12 victory over the Calgary Stampeders at BC Place. “But he came out there and didn’t complain — just battled through everything. And I thought he did a nice job.”

Wearing an ear-to-ear grin that’s hard to wipe off the 22-year-old’s face on the worst of days, Cassama embraced the rain/snow mix.

“It’s beautiful out here — Calgary weather,” Cassama said. “It’s snowing a little bit, and I’m walking off the field proud of myself for leaving everything on the field.”

The aforementioned grin could have also had something to do with the fact he was clocked at 4.55 seconds in the 40-yard dash, a time that would have unofficially tied him for seventh among NFL safety prospects at the 2014 NFL Combine.

Terry, who enters his 10th season in the Packers front office, was impressed.

“If you watch his tape, he flashes a lot of explosion — a lot of snap up the hashes — and he’s a physical player,” Terry said. “He’s not a big, physical-looking guy, but he plays bigger than his size. That translates on the field, and he has a presence about him on the football field, and it made us take notice.

“For us, I could see him playing as a safety. I think he could be a free safety, but he has the play style that is more of a strong safety, if that makes any sense. He’s a football player, at the end of the day. He loves to play the game, and he has a swagger about him. I think he has a chance.”

Cassama checked in at 6-foot-1 and 194 lb., posting 17 reps on the bench-press, as well as a solid time of 7.10 in the three-cone drill.

“I believe every person has a talent in something, and whenever that opportunity comes to you, you want to take it and make the most of it, and that’s what I feel what I did,” said Cassama, who will now polish off his last two U of C exams ahead of the draft.

“Yeah, it was slippery, but I still ran a good time with the snow and everything — ran a 4.5 — and I’m happy with that. I can’t complain. I’m happy with myself.”

While the Packers were the only NFL team in Calgary on Friday, the pro-day tape is expected to be sent to other franchises with varying levels of interest, which includes the Oakland Raiders, the St. Louis Rams, the Miami Dolphins and the Chicago Bears.

“Wherever you are, if you can play, teams are going to try to find you,” Terry added. “I know people get discouraged and say, ‘Scouts aren’t coming here,’ or whatever.

“But at the end of the day, if you can play, teams will find you.”​


University of Calgary star Doctor Cassama impresses NFL scouts with workout | Football | Sports | Calgary Sun




Of course I am a Homer for a Swedish guy but I think the Doc is intriguing. Anyone who can run 4,55 on the forty yard dash is pretty darn fast. If he doesn't get picked in the later rounds I would like to see us try to snag him as a UDFA.

Seer1 04-20-2014 01:39 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 589220)
University of Calgary star Doctor Cassama impresses NFL scouts with workout

The long, painful Calgary winter hasn’t morphed into any semblance of spring just yet.

And in a weird way, it may have benefitted Doc Cassama.

As the University of Calgary Dinos linebacker strode out onto the Rundle College turf Friday morning, ready to prove his pro-day mettle in front of Green Bay Packers scout Tim Terry, amid a light snowfall.

It didn’t help the measurables or his ability to secure the football in positional drills, but what better way to impress a team that plays its games on a Frozen Tundra than show you can deal with the elements?

Paid to evaluate the minute details that separate an NFLer from an also-ran, that fact didn’t escape Terry, the Packers assistant director of pro personnel.

“It was a tough circumstance with the weather — it was a little slick out there — cold and windy …” said Terry, who won a Grey Cup ring in his only CFL season with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in 1999, a 32-12 victory over the Calgary Stampeders at BC Place. “But he came out there and didn’t complain — just battled through everything. And I thought he did a nice job.”

Wearing an ear-to-ear grin that’s hard to wipe off the 22-year-old’s face on the worst of days, Cassama embraced the rain/snow mix.

“It’s beautiful out here — Calgary weather,” Cassama said. “It’s snowing a little bit, and I’m walking off the field proud of myself for leaving everything on the field.”

The aforementioned grin could have also had something to do with the fact he was clocked at 4.55 seconds in the 40-yard dash, a time that would have unofficially tied him for seventh among NFL safety prospects at the 2014 NFL Combine.

Terry, who enters his 10th season in the Packers front office, was impressed.

“If you watch his tape, he flashes a lot of explosion — a lot of snap up the hashes — and he’s a physical player,” Terry said. “He’s not a big, physical-looking guy, but he plays bigger than his size. That translates on the field, and he has a presence about him on the football field, and it made us take notice.

“For us, I could see him playing as a safety. I think he could be a free safety, but he has the play style that is more of a strong safety, if that makes any sense. He’s a football player, at the end of the day. He loves to play the game, and he has a swagger about him. I think he has a chance.”

Cassama checked in at 6-foot-1 and 194 lb., posting 17 reps on the bench-press, as well as a solid time of 7.10 in the three-cone drill.

“I believe every person has a talent in something, and whenever that opportunity comes to you, you want to take it and make the most of it, and that’s what I feel what I did,” said Cassama, who will now polish off his last two U of C exams ahead of the draft.

“Yeah, it was slippery, but I still ran a good time with the snow and everything — ran a 4.5 — and I’m happy with that. I can’t complain. I’m happy with myself.”

While the Packers were the only NFL team in Calgary on Friday, the pro-day tape is expected to be sent to other franchises with varying levels of interest, which includes the Oakland Raiders, the St. Louis Rams, the Miami Dolphins and the Chicago Bears.

“Wherever you are, if you can play, teams are going to try to find you,” Terry added. “I know people get discouraged and say, ‘Scouts aren’t coming here,’ or whatever.

“But at the end of the day, if you can play, teams will find you.”​


University of Calgary star Doctor Cassama impresses NFL scouts with workout | Football | Sports | Calgary Sun

FB: 2013 CW Defensive Player of the Year Doctor Cassama - YouTube

#25 Doc Cassama DB/LB UofC Dinos Football - YouTube


Of course I am a Homer for a Swedish guy but I think the Doc is intriguing. Anyone who can run 4,55 on the forty yard dash is pretty darn fast. If he doesn't get picked in the later rounds I would like to see us try to snag him as a UDFA.

And there is that similarity between the words Canadian and Cajun. Coincidence? I think not.


Actually, I know it's not but it's more fun to say it that way.

jeanpierre 04-21-2014 08:27 AM

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Seer, you were closer than you think...

The South Louisiana Settlers known as Acadians, or Cajuns, were previous French Settlers of Nova Scotia (Canada)...

So there are very strong ties there...

This should help...


Seer1 04-21-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 589248)
Seer, you were closer than you think...

The South Louisiana Settlers known as Acadians, or Cajuns, were previous French Settlers of Nova Scotia (Canada)...

So there are very strong ties there...

This should help...

Acadians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There was a great documentary about it on PBS a few years back.

TheOak 04-21-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 589222)
And there is that similarity between the words Canadian and Cajun. Coincidence? I think not.


Actually, I know it's not but it's more fun to say it that way.

Etymology


Canada... First nations word Kanata meaning Settlement, Village.

Acadians were people from Nova Scotia > Cajun is an alteration of Acadian

lsutigerfan 04-21-2014 08:05 PM

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Here's a first round mock JeanPierre would really like.

NFL Mock Draft 2014: Beckham to the Jets, Jadeveon Clowney Goes Number 1 - The Jet Press - A New York Jets Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.

jeanpierre 04-21-2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 589311)

Actually looked at his list - for a New York guy, he definitely knows the needs of other teams unlike the media types blogs mocks from his town...

Then he geauxs and shows Detroit selecting Justin Miller (Justin Gilbert) - Oy vey! Jets Fan!

Atlanta has to take a tackle to protect Ryan and utilize those passing game weapons...

Khalil Mack will be dangerously near ATL spot...

Maybe we geaux all in for Khalil Mack?!?

Mack is the only guy I'd like more than Attaochu, as impractical as it'd be...

Crusader 04-22-2014 07:31 AM

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Sorry for the bad quality but it was the best I could find.

Seer1 04-22-2014 07:33 AM

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I don't know. We had a good D last year and have already made it better. I'm thinking our success this year is going to be based on the play of our OL and place kicker and that's where our focus ought to be.

hagan714 04-22-2014 12:57 PM

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BPA all the way this year. only one area of major concern and that is OC .

all the other area of depth concerns should have options opened to us in multi rounds. we are sitting pretty

jeanpierre 04-22-2014 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 589355)
I don't know. We had a good D last year and have already made it better. I'm thinking our success this year is going to be based on the play of our OL and place kicker and that's where our focus ought to be.

If you're not growing, adapting - you're dying!

We need to add younger, fresher linebackers so we can put new wrinkles in our schemes so we don't become predictable on defense - sound familiar?!?

On offense, definitely need depth on the line, wide receiver and maybe running back...

BPA, trade the lesser talent to address other needs...

K Major 04-22-2014 07:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 589396)


We need to add younger, fresher linebackers so we can put new wrinkles in our schemes so we don't become predictable on defense - sound familiar?!?


+1. I would like to see us draft a LB early on. Of all of the positions on D, linebacker appears to be the weakest link of the bunch in my mind. There will be a few big nasties still available by rd 3, 4.

hagan714 04-23-2014 10:03 AM

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You know we have all lost site of some of the the lesser known players we have talked about in this thread so lets let FoofballCEO at NFL DRAFT | FOOTBALL GAMEPLAN remind us of a few.


there are more to and he makes rethink your rankings

jeanpierre 04-23-2014 10:41 AM

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My Top 34 OLB:

(1) Khalil Mack, Buffalo

(2) Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech

(2) Anthony Barr, UCLA

(4) Ryan Shazier, Ohio St

(5) Kyle Van Noy, BYU

(6) Trevor Reilly, Utah

(7) Jordan Tripp, Montana

(8) Howard Jones, Shepherd

(9) Telvin Smith, Florida St

(10) Adrian Hubbard, Bama

SaintLeonard 04-23-2014 07:09 PM

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Just did three separate mock drafts:

1.27 - Marqise Lee, WR, USC
2.27 - Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood
3.27 - Jordan Zumwalt, OLB, UCLA
4.27 - Josh Mauro, DE, Stanford
5.27 - Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami
6.27 - Anthony Fera, K, Texas
7.27 - Carrington Byndom, CB, Texas

1.27 - Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
2.27 - Marcus Martin, OC, USC
3.27 - Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana
4.27 - James Hurst, OT, North Carolina
5.27 - Khairi Fortt, OLB, Cali
6.27 - Aaron Lynch, DE, USF
7.27 - Ryan Groy, OG, Wisconsin

1.27 - Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
2.27 - Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida St
3.27 - Juwuan James, OT, Tennessee
4.27 - EJ Gaines, CB, Missouri
5.27 - Adrian Hubbard, OLB, Alabama
6.27 - Shamar Stephen, DT, Connecticut
7.27 - Quincy Enunwa, WR, Nebraska

hagan714 04-23-2014 10:30 PM

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Marqise Lee, WR, USC and Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida St

I can not get all that excited about these two. In the past two years they have had the case of the drops way to often for me to see using a first on on either much less a second.

Benjamin and LEE get a vote of no confidence from me and i do not want to see them in B&G, WR corp has enough questions already with out adding WR that have issues catching

Neither are on my board

SaintLeonard 04-23-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 589562)
Marqise Lee, WR, USC and Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida St

I can not get all that excited about these two. In the past two years they have had the case of the drops way to often for me to see using a first on on either much less a second.

Benjamin and LEE get a vote of no confidence from me and i do not want to see them in B&G, WR corp has enough questions already with out adding WR that have issues catching

Neither are on my board

I agree on Kelvin Benjamin. He does not have the best hands right now, but the guy is a heck of an athlete and he has the potential to be big time.

Where are you seeing Lee has a case of the dropsies? Pretty much every scouting report I have read on Lee raves about what soft hands he has.

hagan714 04-24-2014 05:10 PM

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Lee has acknowledged those drops and is working specifically on improving his hands. Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio asked Lee on PFT Live what area of his game he needs to improve upon, and the receiver said, "Really just catching the ball. I was doing a lot of thinking about running before catching the ball. I've just really been focused on looking the ball all the way in before I actually turn upfield and get going."

Can Marqise Lee Be More Than a No. 2 WR in the NFL? | Bleacher Report

“Lee had too many drops in 2013 but displayed good ball skills in his freshman and sophomore seasons. He is a big-play weapon after the catch and is a vertical route-runner.” – ESPN Draft analyst Todd McShay.

Draft Countdown - No. 23 Marqise Lee | NFL UK

More from Miller, “The USC product has pedigree and is a solid player, but what he lacks in consistent hands and health has caused a steady drop down the board. Lee made plenty of big plays at USC, but digging through three years of film, you’ll see a player who didn’t improve or develop during that time. Lee has to become a more consistent pass-catcher before I see him as a reliable starting NFL wide receiver.”

NFL Draft Rumors: Marqise Lee most overrated draft prospect - FanSided - Sports News, Entertainment, Lifestyle & Technology - 270+ Sites

Look he will amaze you most of the time the skills are there BUT there will be times where you will want to throw a brick at the TV. some serious scouting and coaching is needed with the this pick. lapse of concentration on routine routes does not make a first rounder in my book. Sounds to much like the Mechuem pick relived all over again.

I have watch USC over the past two years and even in his glorious sophomore year he had more than few drops that made you wonder were his head is at. it was a safe bet he would have one or two per game. this is not the USC run down your throat teams of the past. they passed a lot so a lot is lost in the stats.

Plus heed a warning USC has one of the greatest marketing departments in the country. Thats why i look at the USC OC with a level of concern. out of no where at the end of the season he is the greatest thin since sliced bread? I did not see that in his play. upside? back to Lee

I would be pi%%ed with Benjamin and disappointed in the Lee pick. Lee would not be dropping into our laps he is a bottom feeder of round one and atop of round 2. even thing there is a lot of upside putting him the bottom of the first. if he does improve he would be a steal but he is pretty much the same WR leaving college as when he arrived. that scares me. natural ability only gets you so far in the NFL.

straight too the church do the stations of the cross and beg for divine intervention,

then straight to the hardware store and buy an extra jar of stick-em to send to him and Toon.

And thank god once again for flat rate shipping.

I can understand the pick and could give it time but apprehensive would be my final verdict on the pick.

With baited breath i would wait to see if pick 2 makes me feel better

ChrisXVI 04-24-2014 07:08 PM

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I absolutely did not want Bradley Roby and now that he's been arrested for operating a vehicle under the influence I don't think he'll even be on our board.

SaintLeonard 04-25-2014 03:58 PM

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@hagan - That's interesting...

2014 NFL Draft Scouting Report - Marqise Lee, WR USC - With the First Pick - NFL Scouting Reports, College Football, and the 2013 NFL Draft

Marqise Lee, WR, Southern California, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Those two reports say he is a natural hands catcher. Interesting how reports are conflicting on Lee's hands..

ChrisXVI 04-25-2014 04:12 PM

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Scouting reports are an art form... Some person's opinion can completely skew how the masses view a player. Why the hell do we care if Todd McShay, CBS Sports, or Bleacher Report thinks Marqise Lee dropped too many passes last season?! Not to mention that as soon as one person says it the rest start saying it too because they don't want to do the research. The best WR in Saints history was a 7th round pick... What did Colston's scouting report say?!

Utah_Saint 04-25-2014 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 589759)
What did Colston's scouting report say?!

From CBSSports.com


OVERVIEW
Colston is an imposing physical specimen who returned for his final collegiate season in 2005. A shoulder injury kept him on the sidelines in 2004, but he made up for lost time with one of the finest senior campaigns in the history of Pride football.

Colston lettered four times in football and was a three-year member of the track team at Susquehanna High School. He was an All-Conference selection at both receiver and defensive end as a senior. He made 37 catches for 412 yards and blocked three punts in 2000. He was also a District III qualifier in track.

Colston joined the Hofstra program as a 195-pounder in 2001. He was expected to redshirt, but injuries forced the coaching staff to play him in five late-season games. The result was 14 receptions for 335 yards (23.9 avg) and three touchdowns.

Colston became a regular at split end in 2002. He finished second on the squad with 47 receptions for 614 yards (13.1 avg) and three touchdowns. Despite being bothered by a nagging shoulder problem, he started every game in 2004. Colston ranked fifth in the Atlantic Ten Conference as he led the team with 910 yards and seven touchdowns on 51 catches (17.8 avg).

Colston sat out the 2004 season to recover from November 2003 shoulder surgery. He returned with a vengeance in 2005. Now tipping the scales at over 230 pounds, he punished cornerbacks all season, ranking 10th in the nation in receptions per game and 14th in yards gained receiving per game. He led the Pride with a career-high 70 catches for 975 yards (13.5 avg) and five touchdowns.

In 40 games with the Pride, Colston started 37 times. He finished second on the school's career list with 182 receptions and set a Hofstra record with 2,834 yards receiving. He converted 18 of those catches into touchdowns.

ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a tall, thick frame with long limbs … Physical player who excels on slants and crossing patterns, as he uses his size to shield defenders from the ball … Has enough leg drive to break tackles … Uses his hands effectively to power through the jam and his size makes it difficult for cornerbacks in attempts to reroute him or knock him off his patterns … Has the field awareness to settle in the zone's soft spot and does a good job of using his body to wall off defenders … Fearless catching in a crowd and is the type that will dish out more punishment than he gets working in traffic … Can outmaneuver smaller defenders for a jump ball … Times his leaps well to get to the ball at its high point.

Negatives: At his maximum weight for a receiver (any more bulk might dictate a move to tight end) … Will throttle down and observe the action when he is not involved in the play … Has good timed speed, but because of his long stride and inability to stay low in his pads, he can't generate the burst needed to separate on long routes … Lacks plant-and-drive agility, spending too much time rounding his cuts and gathering at the top of the route … Has had ball concentration issues that resulted in several costly fumbles … Does not have the second gear needed to separate and turn a small catch into a big gain … Needs to explode out of his cuts better and this is caused mostly when he fails to drop his route in his patterns … Has large hands, but will sometimes short arm going for the ball in a crowd or double catch (see 2005 Northeastern and Richmond games).




Colston has a tall frame with long limbs and adequate muscle definition. He added bulk during the off-season and his frame is at maximum growth potential for a receiver without losing any of his burst and quickness. Much like former Green Bay Packer Tyrone Davis and former New Orleans Saint Eddie "Boo" Williams, Colston might eventually fill out more and will then probably have to shift to tight end at the pro level.

Colston is a tough, physical receiver who relished his role as a chain-mover. He has a strong release, but needs to be more consistent generating explosion coming off the line of scrimmage. He is a bit of a long strider, but has the sudden burst to separate after the catch. Despite his excellent timed speed, he does not have good initial quickness, as he needs to build to top speed.

As a route-runner, Colston needs to refine his technique. He rounds his cuts too often and while he shows a good burst after the catch, his long stride makes him appear lazy getting into his routes. In order to be effective, he will need to explode out of his cuts better. He runs mostly slants and underneath routes and needs to recognize movement better.

Colston has the speed to elude, but prefers to power through defenders coming out of his breaks and this resulted in several costly fumbles in 2005 (see Richmond and Northeastern games). He knows how to use his size to wall off defenders and shield the ball. He has large hands and long arms to reach and pluck the ball, but most of his drops are caused by a lack of concentration.

Colston likes the contact working over the middle. He is not afraid to take a hit going over the middle and this attitude, combined with his body growth, could see him more effective as an underneath target at tight end rather than lining up at split end. He has the body control to twist and turn to make the catch in a crowd and shows good flexibility to secure the pass at its high point (just needs better consistency).

At the level he played at, he still struggled when having to go deep and needs to stay lower in his pads and show better hip snap to generate more explosion in his routes. Before 2005, he would try to overpower defenders, but now shows better balance and leg drive. He developed some wiggle to escape initial contact, but when he gathers before cutting, he negates his timed speed.

His frame and aggressiveness would make him an effective blocker, but he will lose concentration at times, keep his arms short and this allows defenders to slip past in backside pursuit. The talent and strength are there to be a good in-line blocker. He just needs to develop better overall consistency.

Colston is an interesting prospect because of his size and timed speed. He needs to show more explosiveness in his burst and develop better consistency. He is prone to mental lapses on the field and while he is a hard worker, he is not regarded as leadership material. He needs to be pushed at times, as he tends to get lazy, but overall, he has been a good program player. Based on his size/speed ratio, if he continues to run well in private workouts, he could sneak into the mid-to-late round draft picture.

ChrisXVI 04-25-2014 06:19 PM

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Yes, we can all copy and paste... Point was that he was a late round prospect that was a possible tight end. Now he's the best WR in Saints history... We're here saying Marqise Lee isn't the right guy because he had some drops last year.

saintsfan1976 04-26-2014 06:49 AM

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Will smith was one of our most durable and consistent players ever.
Jenkins was fast not doubt. His problem was between the ears.

I could see Shazier fitting nicely into Ryan's defense but not before round 2

Utah_Saint 04-26-2014 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 589772)
Yes, we can all copy and paste... Point was that he was a late round prospect that was a possible tight end. Now he's the best WR in Saints history... We're here saying Marqise Lee isn't the right guy because he had some drops last year.

It was too much to re-type.

ChrisXVI 04-26-2014 10:24 AM

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For some reason I have a BYU channel on AT&T U-verse, but the good thing is they're showing the BYU-Georgia Tech game from last season. Great opportunity to get a look at Jeremiah Attaochu, Kyle Van Noy, and Cody Hoffman. Just saw a terrific TD catch by Hoffman... Looks like he has some great hands.

hagan714 04-26-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 589828)
For some reason I have a BYU channel on AT&T U-verse, but the good thing is they're showing the BYU-Georgia Tech game from last season. Great opportunity to get a look at Jeremiah Attaochu, Kyle Van Noy, and Cody Hoffman. Just saw a terrific TD catch by Hoffman... Looks like he has some great hands.


no doubt about it he does the issue is speed. which in some prospects is not that important

hagan714 04-27-2014 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintLeonard (Post 589757)

it is not his hands that are at issue here

It is the 6 inches between ears that are of concern.

mental lapse are harder to fix than hands. that is the problem with Lee.

I would much rather a WR like Kevin Norwood who always has his head in the game than deal with a player that spaces out at times. I will go with 4.45 speed, solid hands and route running skill all day long over a WR that makes hold my breath and wondering if he has head on straight.

move the chains wins ever time in my book.

screw the highlight reels. they do not win championships.

jeanpierre 04-27-2014 06:43 AM

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Corey Chavous mock draft has one major surprise | ProFootballTalk

I think every head in the Black and Gold Neighborhood would just...explode...

hagan714 04-27-2014 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 589908)
Corey Chavous mock draft has one major surprise | ProFootballTalk

I think every head in the Black and Gold Neighborhood would just...explode...


for the love of god JP your a blasphemer . now i have to go to church

Seer1 04-27-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 589911)
for the love of god JP your a blasphemer . now i have to go to church

Ummm, I'm not sure even church is gonna help with that one....

saintsfan1976 04-27-2014 04:21 PM

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Good call on Norwood Hagan. No gaudy numbers or measure-ables but all he does is catch what's thrown to him.


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