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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Oh, Colston's numbers... Base Salary $5,500,000 ProRated Bonus $2,700,000 Roster Bonus $0 Workout Bonus $100,000 Cap Number $8,300,000 Dead Money $10,100,000 Cap Savings ($1,800,000) Colston's not really going anywhere other than trade and we'd still take a modest hit... Colston's ...

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:46 PM   #101
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Oh, Colston's numbers...

Base Salary $5,500,000
ProRated Bonus $2,700,000
Roster Bonus $0
Workout Bonus $100,000
Cap Number $8,300,000
Dead Money $10,100,000
Cap Savings ($1,800,000)

Colston's not really going anywhere other than trade and we'd still take a modest hit...

Colston's problem is the team does prioritize getting him the ball outside of formations that give a tell to defenses to anticipate Colston as the priority target...

Source: OvertheCap.com
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Oh, Colston's numbers...

Base Salary $5,500,000
ProRated Bonus $2,700,000
Roster Bonus $0
Workout Bonus $100,000
Cap Number $8,300,000
Dead Money $10,100,000
Cap Savings ($1,800,000)

Colston's not really going anywhere other than trade and we'd still take a modest hit...

Colston's problem is the team does prioritize getting him the ball outside of formations that give a tell to defenses to anticipate Colston as the priority target...
Keeping Colston costs us 8 million
Trading Colston costs us 10 million (or 5 this year plus 5 next year), and then we still have to replace him.

Its cheaper to keep him than trade him.
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Keeping Colston costs us 8 million
Trading Colston costs us 10 million (or 5 this year plus 5 next year), and then we still have to replace him.

Its cheaper to keep him than trade him.

Exactly, well trading him only costs us the prorated et al bonus, we'd save some of the actual base not already due to this season, but it's even still somewhat prohibitive to trading him...

So Throw Him The Damn Ball!!!
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Hey guys, look on the bright Brees and his 100 million will rest nice!!
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Still stuck on that......
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Still stuck on that......
Amazes me still. His contract is exactly equal to market value. I'm not happy about his tactics, but his contract is on par with his talent.

If people wanna cry about over-paying someone, they should focus on Will Smith, Marques Colston, Lance Moore, Pierre Thomas, Thomas Morstead, Broderick Bunkley, Darren Sproles, Roman Harper, and Curtis Lofton.

Drew's contract is far from the main problem.

Wanna bet we pay the stay puff marshmallow TE about 20 million too much?
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Amazes me still. His contract is exactly equal to market value. I'm not happy about his tactics, but his contract is on par with his talent.

If people wanna cry about over-paying someone, they should focus on Will Smith, Marques Colston, Lance Moore, Pierre Thomas, Thomas Morstead, Broderick Bunkley, Darren Sproles, Roman Harper, and Curtis Lofton.

Drew's contract is far from the main problem.

Wanna bet we pay the stay puff marshmallow TE about 20 million too much?
Tactics are what agents do, if there were no tactics there would be no need for agents but there would be a whole lot of players getting screwed over by teams because they do not understand the fine print. Nearly all negotiated contracts are two parties trying to screw each other. When the contract is signed that means they have agreed to screw each other equally.

"If" I were the 32 owners I would change the way the league pays and go to a structured pay scale. Let them make the lions share in endorsements, which would also clean the league up a good bit. You wouldn't have someone making 40 million and running his mouth in public because the company he would be endorsing would keep a lid on his arse.

EG - A starting QB would make 10m a year salary period. He gets a bonus for perfect record, playoffs, SB etc... It does away with all the over and under paid BS. Each and every position would have a price tag, and the salary would be paid out weekly per game so if the QB went to crap and got benched he would receive BU money the next week. But thats a pipe dream.

The FO has already telegraphed its punch and Jimmy will receive no more than the Franchise Tag this season.

I just cant wait for all the threads and news articles stating "The Saints and Jimmy are close to a deal".. Anyone and i mean anyone that knows the contract process knows there is either agreement or non-agreement and there is no degree of done for contracts. You can get 19 of 20 items agreed upon but the 20th kills it and there is no contract or you can have 1 of 20 done and that 1 being the most sticky and the remaining 19 items take 5 minutes.

95% of an NFL contract is standardized and cookie cutter, they just fill in the blanks _ years, _dollar amount. Its the guaranteed money and distrobution that is the sticky wicket.
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Amazes me still. His contract is exactly equal to market value. I'm not happy about his tactics, but his contract is on par with his talent.

If people wanna cry about over-paying someone, they should focus on Will Smith, Marques Colston, Lance Moore, Pierre Thomas, Thomas Morstead, Broderick Bunkley, Darren Sproles, Roman Harper, and Curtis Lofton.

Drew's contract is far from the main problem.

Wanna bet we pay the stay puff marshmallow TE about 20 million too much?
O.K, with that said, now count the people. 1 vs, how many? I personally think they are all over paid, and with the college education they all have can make their money there also when their football days are over. It use to be the rookie contracts that killed things for unproven players now its the proven monster contracts thats killing things, it just a no win but for a few. Brees is good but 100 million good., no athelete is that good.
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