Who to cut (cap hits included)

Danno · 01-24-2014, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

What no Bunkley..... I would bring back Robinson, sproles, Moore.... No reason for the rest.... Love them all but something has got to give for us to get out of NFL debt for once....

I thought Bunkley played very well, so I don't see him as a cut candidate.

alleycat_126 · 01-24-2014, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I thought Bunkley played very well, so I don't see him as a cut candidate.

5 million dollars.... With BIG Jenkins in the wings!!! You don't see him as a cut candidate... at least as a restructure candidate.....

NonieT · 01-25-2014, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

5 million dollars.... With BIG Jenkins in the wings!!! You don't see him as a cut candidate... at least as a restructure candidate.....

It would cost more to cut him than to simply keep him.

ScottF · 01-25-2014, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I thought Bunkley played very well, so I don't see him as a cut candidate.

He had 13 tackles, zero sacks. Good for rotational, but not for $5 mill

Danno · 01-25-2014, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

He had 13 tackles, zero sacks. Good for rotational, but not for $5 mill

Sack and tackle stats for a DT are as useless as tits on a bull.

|Mitch| · 01-25-2014, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Sack and tackle stats for a DT are as useless as tits on a bull.

It's all about collapsing the pocket, which Jenkins and Bunkley both did very well

ScottF · 01-25-2014, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

It's all about collapsing the pocket, which Jenkins and Bunkley both did very well

Originally Posted by Danno

Sack and tackle stats for a DT are as useless as tits on a bull.

In the absence of stats, look at the comparables:
24 DT's had over 40 tackles last year
65 DT's had more tackles than BB
these guys are pressuring the pocket AND coming up with the numbers

BB is the 16th highest paid DT- as we look at every nickel, his name is going to come up

Crusader · 01-25-2014, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

In the absence of stats, look at the comparables:
24 DT's had over 40 tackles last year
65 DT's had more tackles than BB
these guys are pressuring the pocket AND coming up with the numbers

BB is the 16th highest paid DT- as we look at every nickel, his name is going to come up

Is that DTs or NTs? There is quite a big difference between being a 5 tech DT and a 0 or 1 tech NT.

jeanpierre · 01-26-2014, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

In the absence of stats, look at the comparables:
24 DT's had over 40 tackles last year
65 DT's had more tackles than BB
these guys are pressuring the pocket AND coming up with the numbers

BB is the 16th highest paid DT- as we look at every nickel, his name is going to come up

His name would come up simply because of Jenkins showing his ability to start and he costs less...

that said, it would be an incredibly risky chance to let an established 34 Nose Tackle geaux breaking up an affordable, cap friendly, effective rotation at the NT which is rare in today's NFL...

The rotations on the defensive line were the best we've had since the LaRoi Glover gang, maybe even the Dome Patrol days...

On defense, the big problem that has half a solution solved in Vaccaro is to get the complement to shore up the backstop and maybe a playmaking cornerback to pair with the solid pro Keenan Lewis...

But the bigger issue on defense is really at Linebacker where we showed we're most vulnerable when Vaccaro was healthy...

halloween 65 · 01-26-2014, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

His name would come up simply because of Jenkins showing his ability to start and he costs less...

that said, it would be an incredibly risky chance to let an established 34 Nose Tackle geaux breaking up an affordable, cap friendly, effective rotation at the NT which is rare in today's NFL...

The rotations on the defensive line were the best we've had since the LaRoi Glover gang, maybe even the Dome Patrol days...

On defense, the big problem that has half a solution solved in Vaccaro is to get the complement to shore up the backstop and maybe a playmaking cornerback to pair with the solid pro Keenan Lewis...

But the bigger issue on defense is really at Linebacker where we showed we're most vulnerable when Vaccaro was healthy...

JP, If you look at it like I'm looking at it we need another bad a$$ DT up front, one that not only plays the nose in a 3-4 but can play all the front line, keep in mind 6 linemen in a 3-4 that is why I want Hageman in the 1st. As of now we have 5 really good linemen add Hagemen thats 6 and a rookie at that to bring along with Jenkins, Jordon, Hicks and Walker. I would not let Bunkley go this year either. About the lb.'s I wanted to pull the trigger on Van Noy in the 2nd but we need more help on the O line, I did mock this guy Andrew Jackson ILB because we need a thug type in the middle and if him and Rufus could be paired together in the middle over time I do't think we would have to ever worry about the run. Basically in a nut-shell what I would like to see out of our front 7 is to go thug type just like the Dome Patrol was. The pieces are almost there.

01-24-2014, 10:12 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by alleycat_126 What no Bunkley..... I would bring back Robinson, sproles, Moore.... No reason for the rest.... Love them all but something has got to give for us to get out of NFL debt for once.... I thought Bunkley played very well, so I don't see him as a cut candidate. Boutte and The Dude like this.

01-24-2014, 10:48 PM	#2
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by Danno I thought Bunkley played very well, so I don't see him as a cut candidate. 5 million dollars.... With BIG Jenkins in the wings!!! You don't see him as a cut candidate... at least as a restructure candidate.....

01-25-2014, 08:39 AM	#3
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by alleycat_126 5 million dollars.... With BIG Jenkins in the wings!!! You don't see him as a cut candidate... at least as a restructure candidate..... It would cost more to cut him than to simply keep him.
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01-25-2014, 05:59 PM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by Danno I thought Bunkley played very well, so I don't see him as a cut candidate. He had 13 tackles, zero sacks. Good for rotational, but not for $5 mill

01-25-2014, 06:05 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by ScottF He had 13 tackles, zero sacks. Good for rotational, but not for $5 mill Sack and tackle stats for a DT are as useless as tits on a bull. mleg1972, the-commish and saintsfan403 like this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by Danno Sack and tackle stats for a DT are as useless as tits on a bull. It's all about collapsing the pocket, which Jenkins and Bunkley both did very well Rugby Saint II and the-commish like this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| It's all about collapsing the pocket, which Jenkins and Bunkley both did very well Originally Posted by Danno Sack and tackle stats for a DT are as useless as tits on a bull. In the absence of stats, look at the comparables: 24 DT's had over 40 tackles last year 65 DT's had more tackles than BB these guys are pressuring the pocket AND coming up with the numbers BB is the 16th highest paid DT- as we look at every nickel, his name is going to come up

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by ScottF In the absence of stats, look at the comparables: 24 DT's had over 40 tackles last year 65 DT's had more tackles than BB these guys are pressuring the pocket AND coming up with the numbers BB is the 16th highest paid DT- as we look at every nickel, his name is going to come up Is that DTs or NTs? There is quite a big difference between being a 5 tech DT and a 0 or 1 tech NT. the-commish and saintsfan403 like this.

01-26-2014, 12:43 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by ScottF In the absence of stats, look at the comparables: 24 DT's had over 40 tackles last year 65 DT's had more tackles than BB these guys are pressuring the pocket AND coming up with the numbers BB is the 16th highest paid DT- as we look at every nickel, his name is going to come up His name would come up simply because of Jenkins showing his ability to start and he costs less... that said, it would be an incredibly risky chance to let an established 34 Nose Tackle geaux breaking up an affordable, cap friendly, effective rotation at the NT which is rare in today's NFL... The rotations on the defensive line were the best we've had since the LaRoi Glover gang, maybe even the Dome Patrol days... On defense, the big problem that has half a solution solved in Vaccaro is to get the complement to shore up the backstop and maybe a playmaking cornerback to pair with the solid pro Keenan Lewis... But the bigger issue on defense is really at Linebacker where we showed we're most vulnerable when Vaccaro was healthy... MarchingOn likes this.
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01-26-2014, 07:54 AM	#10
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by jeanpierre His name would come up simply because of Jenkins showing his ability to start and he costs less... that said, it would be an incredibly risky chance to let an established 34 Nose Tackle geaux breaking up an affordable, cap friendly, effective rotation at the NT which is rare in today's NFL... The rotations on the defensive line were the best we've had since the LaRoi Glover gang, maybe even the Dome Patrol days... On defense, the big problem that has half a solution solved in Vaccaro is to get the complement to shore up the backstop and maybe a playmaking cornerback to pair with the solid pro Keenan Lewis... But the bigger issue on defense is really at Linebacker where we showed we're most vulnerable when Vaccaro was healthy... JP, If you look at it like I'm looking at it we need another bad a$$ DT up front, one that not only plays the nose in a 3-4 but can play all the front line, keep in mind 6 linemen in a 3-4 that is why I want Hageman in the 1st. As of now we have 5 really good linemen add Hagemen thats 6 and a rookie at that to bring along with Jenkins, Jordon, Hicks and Walker. I would not let Bunkley go this year either. About the lb.'s I wanted to pull the trigger on Van Noy in the 2nd but we need more help on the O line, I did mock this guy Andrew Jackson ILB because we need a thug type in the middle and if him and Rufus could be paired together in the middle over time I do't think we would have to ever worry about the run. Basically in a nut-shell what I would like to see out of our front 7 is to go thug type just like the Dome Patrol was. The pieces are almost there.

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