Who to cut (cap hits included)

TheOak · 01-27-2014, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Thats true, but he did nail it on the draft comment. The best way to bring that cap down is to start hitting on draft picks.

We knocked it out of the ball park (and halfway across the parking lot)
in 2013. Another year or two like that and we'll be sitting pretty cap wise, even with Drews big contract.

BTW, Drew is currently the 4th highest paid QB in the league. With Newton, Wilson, Kaeppernick contracts coming up soon he'll probably drop out of the top 5. His contract amount isn't all that absurd.

Its a catch-22 Danno. Too many draft homeruns will balloon on you especially when you make it to a SB or NFCCG. FAs are less likely to balloon on you as their market values have been pretty much set after their rookie contract.

Your examples on Kaep and Wilson prove my point which leaves a dilemma.

A. You get a good blend and maintain some retention.

B. You flood the team with youth and every three years if you are successful have to deal with high turnover because you cant fit all the outstanding players under your cap.

Its a good problem to have but still a problem none the less. In my opinion the solution is not an either, or; but a blend. The short term solution typically looks fantastic until you look at the effect long term.

Danno · 01-27-2014, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Its a catch-22 Danno. Too many draft homeruns will balloon on you especially when you make it to a SB or NFCCG. FAs are less likely to balloon on you as their market values have been pretty much set after their rookie contract.

Your examples on Kaep and Wilson prove my point which leaves a dilemma.

A. You get a good blend and maintain some retention.

B. You flood the team with youth and every three years if you are successful have to deal with high turnover because you cant fit all the outstanding players under your cap.

Its a good problem to have but still a problem none the less. In my opinion the solution is not an either, or; but a blend. The short term solution typically looks fantastic until you look at the effect long term.

Good points, and its also why every team needs solid role players. Role players won't break the bank and help maintain continuity year to year. You can't afford to have an all-pro at every position.

TheOak · 01-27-2014, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Good points, and its also why every team needs solid role players. Role players won't break the bank and help maintain continuity year to year. You can't afford to have an all-pro at every position.

Which is what most fans do. They look at the weakest link and want to throw a Jerry Rice in there, it never ends.... There will always be a weakest link.

Some positions require a serviceable player and some benefit a great deal more from play makers.

Dual roll players..- We have the #2 passing defense but some want to replace our LBs for players that "might" be better in coverage, but at what expense? To get run on?

Lets not forget that some passes are only defensible by accident.

hagan714 · 01-27-2014, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Which is what most fans do. They look at the weakest link and want to throw a Jerry Rice in there, it never ends....

he is coming back? sign him sign him now

01-27-2014, 08:59 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by Danno Thats true, but he did nail it on the draft comment. The best way to bring that cap down is to start hitting on draft picks. We knocked it out of the ball park (and halfway across the parking lot) in 2013. Another year or two like that and we'll be sitting pretty cap wise, even with Drews big contract. BTW, Drew is currently the 4th highest paid QB in the league. With Newton, Wilson, Kaeppernick contracts coming up soon he'll probably drop out of the top 5. His contract amount isn't all that absurd. Its a catch-22 Danno. Too many draft homeruns will balloon on you especially when you make it to a SB or NFCCG. FAs are less likely to balloon on you as their market values have been pretty much set after their rookie contract. Your examples on Kaep and Wilson prove my point which leaves a dilemma. A. You get a good blend and maintain some retention. B. You flood the team with youth and every three years if you are successful have to deal with high turnover because you cant fit all the outstanding players under your cap. Its a good problem to have but still a problem none the less. In my opinion the solution is not an either, or; but a blend. The short term solution typically looks fantastic until you look at the effect long term.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

01-27-2014, 09:10 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by Danno Good points, and its also why every team needs solid role players. Role players won't break the bank and help maintain continuity year to year. You can't afford to have an all-pro at every position. Which is what most fans do. They look at the weakest link and want to throw a Jerry Rice in there, it never ends.... There will always be a weakest link. Some positions require a serviceable player and some benefit a great deal more from play makers. Dual roll players..- We have the #2 passing defense but some want to replace our LBs for players that "might" be better in coverage, but at what expense? To get run on? Lets not forget that some passes are only defensible by accident. hagan714 and mleg1972 like this.

01-27-2014, 09:22 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by TheOak Which is what most fans do. They look at the weakest link and want to throw a Jerry Rice in there, it never ends.... he is coming back? sign him sign him now

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Who to cut (cap hits included) Originally Posted by TheOak Its a catch-22 Danno. Too many draft homeruns will balloon on you especially when you make it to a SB or NFCCG. FAs are less likely to balloon on you as their market values have been pretty much set after their rookie contract. Your examples on Kaep and Wilson prove my point which leaves a dilemma. A. You get a good blend and maintain some retention. B. You flood the team with youth and every three years if you are successful have to deal with high turnover because you cant fit all the outstanding players under your cap. Its a good problem to have but still a problem none the less. In my opinion the solution is not an either, or; but a blend. The short term solution typically looks fantastic until you look at the effect long term. Good points, and its also why every team needs solid role players. Role players won't break the bank and help maintain continuity year to year. You can't afford to have an all-pro at every position.