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Talk about a steal. I strongly consider picking him in the fourth. He is one of my favorite players to take a risk on and develop. injury was in early November so the medical evals should be trust worthy. I can not see him getting out of the 5th if all checks out. too much upside with a solid floor.

R4 D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
R5 Adam Gotsis, DE, Georgia Tech 6046 285 4.88
R7 LeShaun Sims CB Southern Utah 6003 201 4.45

If these were the final 3 picks for the saints I would be tickle pink. All solid risk development players that can make this team

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In two weeks, the on-field workouts begin for the combine...

Source: 2016 NFL Scouting Combine schedule of events - NFL.com

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Well, he's got the late late season knee injury, plus he didn't really start playing football till college coming from Australia...

If we took Gotsis in the fifth, that wouldn't be bad...

DJ Reader worries me; would really like more details on his "personal reasons" for leaving the team; I get losing your father, but Clemson has had its share of personal substance abuse problems recently - and we need every draft pick with the salary cap hell we'll in...

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This is why for months I've beaten the drum for either Danny Trevathan or Brandon Marshall (RFA)...

Was glad to see Ellerbe redo his contract, but at his age, can he ever get healthy?!?

Still think the first two (2) priority free agent signings should be, first, NT Damon Harrison (Jets) and, second, WLB Danny Trevathan (Broncos)...

With Ellerbe redoing his contract, get the feeling the Saints are thinking draft for a WLB and for the second priority FA signing, it'll be a guard...

If I were the Saints GM, I'd sign Harrison, which will take a signicant contract; then, if Brees wants better Guard protection, I'd use that as leverage in a re-worked deal - "You want 15+ or are you willing to knock it down to 10 and allow us to go out and pay a Evan Mathis and Alex Boone?!?"

No matter what happens, we must acquire a proven NT like Harrison and not risk it in the draft...

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[Reader says the decision was all his own, after feeling he was not mentally ready to play. His father’s death still weighed on him, but Reader says he also felt he needed to grow up. So rather than take the starting opportunity that was there waiting for him, he took a step back.

....

“I got to spend a lot of me time, getting to know myself a lot better. It was good for me,” Reader said. “I learned I had a lot of growing up to do. Through that process it helped me grow a lot. That’s really the main thing that got done.”

Where did he grow the most?

“I think I just grew mentally. I’m a lot mentally stronger now. I’m excited to see where that takes me.”


D.J. Reader made himself -- and Clemson -- better during time away - ACC Blog- ESPN


I really see no issue with why he and what he did.

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I'd be sure he's carefully vetted re: those statements; if accurate, then it swings the other way for him on his character and personality profile with a positive...

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Here's my final DT rundown. Next up, I will get to DE. I'm anxious to get to TE and WRs.

1.Maliek Collins vs Wisconsin (2015) | Draft Breakdown

He was always getting to the QB, and seemed to be quick against linemen and could get after the run. This video was against the highly proficient Wisconsin offense. Collins is expected to be late round 3.

2.Javon Hargrave vs UAPB (2015) | Draft Breakdown

He was the best of the five I saw, but I have him second because of the conference. MEAC isn't known for churning out NFL players. Though Hargrave was dominant, will that translate to a NFL level bigger than opponents he never faced in college? He's going round 4.

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=pH-2RUGZgg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=FxxZGC2F_Y4
He was solid but could have been better. Looking to be round 3.

4.
While he could get near the qb a lot. Two glaring things, he was not good at disrupting the pocket, qbs could run out of the pocket and make him miss. And he could not stop the run, and RBs would run where he could not go after them. Also, he had a habit of always falling down. The thing that stands out about him? He's a wannabe Troy with the hair.

5. Wasn't impressed at all. He was also playing against WVU, one of the least NFL caliber offenses in college. Also, he got a lot of help with his fellow safety Reed. He should not be drafted.

Draft
Round 3-Collins, Hargrave, or Jones
Maybe
Round 3-Day
Do Not Draft
Round 4-Ridgeway

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...Collins isn't the most intimidating defensive tackle prospect on the sidelines with average size and bulk, but his play stands out due to his impressive movement skills.
After leading Nebraska with 13.0 tackles for loss in 2014 to go along with 4.5 sacks, Collins failed to build on those numbers last season, finishing with 7.0 stops behind the line and 2.5 sacks. He opted not to return for Year Two under coach Mike Reilly, forgoing his final season to enter the draft...


...WEAKNESSES: Lacks the brute strength to overwhelm his opponent in tight spaces and most blockers can match him power-for-power. Easily moved by double-teams and can be washed out of the hole by angle blocks. Stuck on blocks too long. Still developing his counter moves, struggling if he doesn't win with his initial step. Will overrun the pocket and needs to better control his momentum in tight spaces. Needs to better protect his lower body off the snap. Scheme-specific and lacks desired versatility.

IN OUR VIEW: Collins lacks the bulk and power scouts would prefer in an interior defensive lineman...

Source: Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

We already have guys like this on the roster...

Now DE/DT Jarran Reed, Alabama or NT Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech are the only high round defensive linemen I'd take that would complement this front seven...

This is a very deep class for DT and DE and we still could upgrade in the later rounds though I'd agree we need at least one big impact DL through FA (i.e. NT Damon Harrison, DE Malik Jackson) and one in the draft...

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Out of those five, he looked the second best(behind Hargrave). Not saying he's better than the first eight I brought up.

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My Current Slate...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 317 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) LB Antwione Williams, Georgia Southern; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 247 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) TE Jerell Adams, South Carolina; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 245 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) DE Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 285 lbs.

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Chris Jones is an perplexing prospect.
On one hand you see the talent and understand the junior college bit about needing time.
On the other hand why did he exploded onto the seen at the end of the year?

To me this one all boils down to interviews IMO

Sheldon Day is pretty much the same story. Why did he disappear for such long stretches in the season?

Hargrave a good player on a bad team but can he eat up double teams on a regular bases at the NFL level? Well worth a long look at.

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As deep as this draft is DT, it just doesn't warrant taking a DT that early unless it's a rare talent that will complement our existing roster with examples being Bama's Jarran Reed or LaTech's Vernon Butler...

And I'd actually rather we sign a proven commodity (i.e. Damon Harrison, Malik Jackson) in free agency rather leave it to chance in the draft...

And there are positions which have less depth (Safety, Weakside LBer, Wide Receiver) that would have more impact with the earlier picks...

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money? it is just not there.

build through the draft is the best way to attack this cap and dead money issue. we need more picks imo

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This is why I would trade Jordan, Vaccarro and Bush to get those much needed picks, although I would try Bush at SS first to see if he could make his case to stay. Funny thing is Payton might give Allen some gifts since he's one of the good ole' boys in the likes of Reed and Butler in the 1st and 2nd round. To be honest it wouldn't be a bad move to get those 2, it would make Jenkins expendable.

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So you'd trade Cam,our only pass rusher and take on another 6ml in dead money?

It would be nearly a stupid as giving Galette his contract

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next cap cut?

Thomas Morstead
year cap dead
2016 $4,450,000 $1,200,000
2017 $4,000,000 $250,000
2018 $4,150,000

Replacement? UDFA?
Peter Mortll P Minnesota 6012 192 4.94

I like this kid, he understand the importance of hang time and coverage. But more than anything I like the fact he is old school and is one of the best coffin corner kickers I have seen in years. He is unreal when kicking 50 to 60 yards out. Inside the twenty is always talked about when you start talking good kickers. This kid? You measure his day with kicks inside the ten as a kicker. Hits the coffin corner old school style. he aims for it

best directional punter to come out of college in years IMO

why is he over looked? got me

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Priority UDFA defense
Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6-3 325 5.00
Eric Rawls, DB, Kentucky State 6020 195 4.41
Eric Rawls - Hudl
Tevin Carter S Utah 6012 215 4.48
Brennan Scarlett DE/OLB Stanford 6032 264 4.96
Justin Simmons SS Boston College 6024 201 4.59

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Priority UDFA offense
Brad Craddock K Maryland 6003 192 4.88
Jake McGee. TE Florida 6053 252 4.86
Jonah Austin, G/OT, Nicholls State 6052 330 5.35
backup to starter La'el Collins at left guard in 2012
Jordan Swindle OT/OG Kentucky 6070 309 5.23
Devon Cajuste WR Stanford 6032 4.60 234
Ryker Mathews BYU OG/OT BYU 6052 320 5.26

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Or about as stupid as me wanting Graham traded? Jordans containment stinks setting up screens all day long, he's not as well rounded as many people think. Over playing plays are just as bad as not getting to the qb. which he does alot more times than he gets sacks. He's not worth the contract he recieved at all.

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But he hot it and would have got it on the open market. So trading him and eating the money makes no sense as things stand. It your talking another year or so then yes i get it,but not ehen the dead moneybsits as is

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Only way we trade Cam is a sign and trade whereby the first year numbers would be reduced to minimize the Saints cap hit...

Here's my take on Cam; he needs to get back to being a more well-rounded defensive end - setting the edge - and set up faster players like Kikaha and others to make the sacks...

I'd have no problems keeping Cam and paying him at that cap number if he would be more unselfish in that regard, because the results for the team would be more positive...

But that's also going to take alot of trust in the coaches and their schemes - which I still find very suspect, questionable at this time; especially when you look at how the rookie play seem to be minimized down the stretch and Allen's history...

For quicker results on the field, we'd have to rework a few contracts (i.e. Brees, Jordan, Byrd) get some add'l cap room and go after NT Damon Harrison and DE Malick Jackson, proven veterans that this coaching staff historically has preferred...

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I just hope whoever we draft at number 1 will be able to step right in and start. I am tired of these players they have to "Bring along slowly". I still dont like the Peat signing. And if we sign another 2nd rounder with a huge upside that never winds up seeing the field I am going to scream. I say pick whoever is left at our spot who can step right in, unless its a kicker.

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That is just asonine. This might take the cake for stupidest post ever.

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IF the best player available is at No. 12 is a quarterback, would we not take that quarterback?!?

I like Laquon Treadwell, Jarran Reed and Kevin Dodd...

But if it's a quarterback, why not?

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JP, I like him too but the Saints having been consistently top 3 in offense and dead last in defense is like running in place and not going no where.

We need defense 1st round... round 2, 3 is another story.

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My Current Slate...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) DL Jarron Reed, Alabama; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 311 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 317 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) LB Antwione Williams, Georgia Southern; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 247 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) TE Jerell Adams, South Carolina; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 245 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) OG Ted Karras, Illinois; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 308 lbs.

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Defense needs to be addressed, but we may address a lot of that in free agency.

The draft is about the future. In 2 or 3 years when Brees is gone, I'd sure like his replacement to have some top WR's to work with.

Treadwell can be a difference maker for many years to come.

I think we take BPA at 12 even if it an offensive weapon.

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1st Round - Defense, Defense, Defense, Defense, Defense

2nd Round - if Coleman the WR from Baylor is there, that's who I want (if he gone, a 6' or taller WR)

3rd Round - Offensive Line

4th Round - Defense

5th Round - Defense

7th Round - Offensive Line

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Put my GM hat back on and here is my thought process on who the Saints will select at #12 ;) :

MUST: Interior offensive and defensive lineman
NEED: Coverage LB, pass rusher
WANT: WR, TE,

Here is a quick read by Underhill :Evaluating the problem areas within the Saints’ pass defense | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana

Best ways to address? Sign a DE and a sub package DT in FA. - Olivier Vernon, Venny Curry, Robert Ayers, Henry Melton , Tony McDaniels, Tyrunn Walker are all available FA's that shouldn't command high contracts.

Edit: I'd even push a coverage LB up to a must.

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Needs are typically addressed in free agency. Reaching for needs destroys teams. There may not be any elite lineman available when we pick at 12.

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Noah Spence and A Robinson could both be available at #12 and I think they are elite NFL prospects. I'd even give Robert Ndemkemchi (sp) serious consideration if he is still on the board. Our defense has been, well .. anemic and all of these aforementioned kids will contribute early and often. Inside help is so desperately needed in NO. Beef up that middle.

IMO A'shawn Robinson is going to become a BEAST at the next level.

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The 2017 Compensatory Pick Potential For All 32 Teams - Over the Cap

(excerpt) New Orleans
With all the Saints’ salary cap woes you’d think they would have had to let some UFAs walk as a result, but they always find a way to mortgage the future to keep their guys. This year looks to be no different, as their pending UFA slate looks bare. Potential: Very Low

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Not sure if anyone has chimed in on this guy ... had 21 sacks last season.

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Matt Judon, DE, Grand Valley State 6026 255 4.86

Definitely one to keep an eye on at the combine. I want to see his weigh in.

But the saints have a terrible record for letting late round draft picks develop.

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We had signed an undrafted rookie free agent in 2013 out of Grand Valley State, an offensive guard, 6' 4" tall, 308 lbs...

Seems like we really like to use ALL of our in-house scouts...

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Okay, if I'm Loomis, In free agency I sign...(1) NT Damon Harrison (NYJ) and (2) DE Malick Jackson (DEN)...

So with a week out from the combine, really looking for these guys to solidify at these spots...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 317 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112*) TE Jerell Adams, South Carolina; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 245 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 150*) LB Antwione Williams, Georgia Southern; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 247 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 192*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)

R7, S16 (Pick 232*) OG Ted Karras, Illinois; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 308 lbs.


And it all starts to come together...:bng:

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OK, I'm gonna take a stab at this...

Round 1 Pick 12: Jaylon Smith, OLB/ILB, Notre Dame
- You just don't pass on a talent like this. Let Ellerbe hold down the fort while Smith gets fully healthy and then unleash the beast.

Round 2 Pick 16: Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State
- Some will say that Johnson won't be there when we pick but look... Some guys are gonna have to drop.

Round 3 Pick 15: Joshua Garnett, OG, Stanford
- Former teammate of Andrus Peat and fits Sean Payton's love for players with NFL pedigrees. Allows us to move Tim Lelito to his more natural position of right guard.

Round 4 Pick 14: Keyarris Garrett, WR, Tulsa
- 6'4" and 220 lb receiver who I've heard called a poor man's Brandon Marshall. Will take some time to develop but Payton likes taking the approach of developing and molding WR's into our system.

Round 5 Pick 13: Morgan Burns, CB, Kansas State
- Honestly, I picked him at random.

Round 7 Pick 16: Tanner McEvoy, TE/WR, Wisconsin
- 6'6", 225 lb jack of all trades. Former QB and safety at Wisconsin.

Thanks for reading! I could be way off with these picks but I love this stuff.

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Mel Kiper's pick for us in his mock draft 2.0:

12. New Orleans Saints- Sheldon Rankins, DL, Louisville

The Saints are in the midst of a rebuild on the defensive side of the ball, and Rankins can be unblockable when he's at his best, with exceptional quickness and the ability to make plays in the backfield from the interior. A stellar week in Mobile at the Senior Bowl secured his place in the top half of Round 1.

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Okay here's my first three rounds:
1. Urban Meyer
2. Nick Saban
3. Mark Dantonio
The three of'em ought to be able to figure out the D...

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Good Job, may not agree with all the selections, but good layout...

My favorite pick is WR Keyarris Garrett, Tulsa , but I'd bet he's going in at least the third round...

I don't like taking a first round pick that can't start immediately, sans, maybe the exception being QB...maybe...