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Nkemdiche is horribly overrated and has bust written all over him.

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Reed is the only one with consistent production worth drafting at No. 12...

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If I'm the GM/Scout I'd do a TON of due diligence on Robert and talk to former teammates, coaches, trainers etc to find out as much as I possible. Depending who is out there & what reports tell them, I would pull the trigger on Nkemdiche.

Is he a risky pick? No doubt..I remember a lot of teams passed on Warren Sapp (including NO). We ended up selecting Fields :rolleyes:.
The Saints need a DT that consistently control the like of scrimmage, and create seams/gaps so that our LB's and D ends have more chances to make game changing plays. We need a big, nasty tree stump, that isn't going to be pushed back and can get to the pocket & create chaos & destruction.

To be continued ...

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Jarran Reed, DE/DT, Alabama 6034 313 5.14
I really like Reed. More so than A'Shawn Robinson. ok I will admit it is by a hair and based on the fact he can bounce inside and outside. I like the versatility so he can stay on the field no matter the down.

Vernon Butler DT LA Tech 6032 316 5.06
Is tearing up the senior bowl looks to be the big climber this year. people are starting to say first round talent. hmmm

Austin Johnson DT Penn State 603 325 5.27
Still like this kid

D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
Is another player that is doing well at the senior bowl. round 3/4 now?

Jihad Ward DE/DT Illinios 6051 296 4.98
Not to sure were to put him. he is just like Allen DE/DT that can stay on the field for 3 downs and can bounce inside and out. Basketball kid till 10 th grade so there would appear to be some solid upside still there to work with.

keep an eye on
Quinton Jefferson DT Maryland 6040 289 5.02

Want to change the DL completely for the saints?
R1 Jarran Reed, DE/DT, Alabama 6034 313 5.14
R2 Vernon Butler DT LA Tech 6032 316 5.06
R4 D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
R5 Jihad Ward DE/DT Illinios 6051 296 4.98

of course i see a trade down in the first

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Love for Kenyan Drake...

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Kenyan Drake? hmmm a RB. I am guessing they see little chance of signing Highertower cheap and maybe the Robinson experiment is almost over?

Round 3? solid receiver, and runner. Issue pass protection?

how is the ankle?

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Good Comparison of the two Bama Defensive Tackles; totally agree with your summation...


Was wanting to see how he'd do at this level; had him on one of my earlier mocks; I'd feel safer signing Free Agent NT Damon Harrison; but would love to take this kid in the third round...


I'm just not sold on this kid and is too much a risk above round four...

Like idea of taking Reader in round four than Johnson earlier, but that's why we have the senior bowls, pro days and combine...

This kid really intrigues me with a late round pick; but he's just not been able to put it together on the field and I don't think we have the defensive coach to make that happen...


Really like this guy as a developmental 3-4 Defensive End...

But, but we've got Cam Jordan!!!

Made it clear if Treadway is there, think Saints would make him the pick, but I can see Reed of this bunch in the black and gold and it'd make those Roll Tide types of Saints fans happy - until we start criticizing their play...

;)

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I can tell you bama has 4-5 nfl players on that defense theres value all over that defense, ragland is a stopper in on every play type joe hustle.i don't root for bamma being from ul and tiger country, but knowing that payton dodges lsu players i'm all in on bama.

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I'd grade him fourth round and am intrigued if he might go higher than fourth...And I watch tape...

Hope this helps...

...A college left tackle, Washington State's Joe Dahl (6-4, 299) kicked inside this week and has impressed at both left and right guard. He keeps his hips low off the snap and sits in his stance with his near 33-inch arms extended to engage.

Dahl is very active with his hands and showed accurate placement to tie-up rushers and control the point of attack. Coming from WSU's spread scheme, there were several question marks regarding Dahl's pro transition, but he answered several of them in Mobile...

Source: 2016 Senior Bowl: Offensive line fires back during North practice - CBSSports.com

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Here's something interesting from Matt Miller at Bleacher Report:

"The top-ranked linebacker in this class, Jaylon Smith, is still a lock to go top 15 according to team sources. Smith, who tore his ACL and LCL in the Fiesta Bowl, is already back rehabbing two times a day according to sources close to the player. One team to keep an eye on is the New Orleans Saints. I'm told there is a lot of like for him at weakside linebacker on their board."

I really like the sound of that. This is a deep class for D-Lineman so I would be fine with Smith in the first round.

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While I wouldn't mind Another OLB. Do we really want one that is just coming of a big knee surgery?

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That would be a retrograde move for the Saints; going back to farming players for other teams...

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If we have the chance to have a Lavonte David-style impact LB for the next five years with the stipulation that he starts this season on IR designated to return... I would absolutely pull the trigger on Jaylon Smith. How long have we complained about needing to upgrade our LB's? We have a MLB but there's still work to do and I would be fine with Smith.

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It would really come down to the Saints front office and what happens in Free Agency. If the FO makes a go for say Trevathian or another mid tier LB, I could see them passing on Jaylon.

However if someone told me that we could have drafted Captain America (Luke Kuechly) or Bobby Wagner but we would have to sit him for a season, I'd wouldn't even care. I think this guy (Jaylon Smith) will become an impact player at the next level.

Quick read and report:

http://blogs.theadvocate.com/blackan...-jaylon-smith/

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Bleacher Report says we want Jaylon Smith, LB from Notre Dame and brother of former Broncos WR Rod Smith. It continues our trend of taking players coming off injuries, but he's an excellent talent and he will be ready for the regular season.


Edit: Ok. I'm late. My bad. Carry on.

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Next tier of DTs(so far none really stand out like Nkemdich)

Btw I did not include Robinson the first time because I don't think we're getting him.

1.
He plays on a team that doesn't have all the tools to contend with the bigger schools but these type of schools players have been the alternative to the major BCS schools. He played hard, and with better defensive talent around him he should be better and small school players have shown to play hard. Early 2nd projection, for us, that may mean we get him or lose out.

2.
First two games I thought he was okay, but looked better against Hawaii and Navy. He should be better given he's on a Urban Meyer defense. Early 3rd but might move up.

3.
I don't like this one too much. Louiseville is not a defensive team but he just did not stand out to me. Also, he looked better against FSU than TAM. Early 2nd projection, possible late first.

4.
I only saw one game with him and it did not help. We already have a guy by this name already so it would be weird to have two with it. Just was not seeing much from him. 2nd round.

Draft
Round 2-Butler
Round 2-Washington(if Butler's gone)

Do Not Draft
Round 2-Rankins
Round 2-Johnson

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IF they continue to trend through the combine and respective pro days as they have at the Reese's Senior Bowl, Butler and Rankins are going first round...

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I don't like to judge Senior Bowls for how a player does. How they do in conference games is a bigger indication of how they will succeed or not.

I also learn something new. A DT isn't exactly all about getting to the qb but clogging holes and stopping the run. Yet I saw RBs running like crazy against Baylor which is why I'm not high on someone like Billings.

Maybe I did my evaluations wrong and were looking for DTs who could get to the qb and disrupt plays as opposed to what a DT is really supposed to do.

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I agree with you. in a 34 or a 43 you need that space eater at NT.

Play at NT will make or break a DL. The saints have DT but no NT that requires respect much less a double team. The saints have a bunch of rotational player that can work. But the sum of the parts does not equal a starter. Kevin Williams still has it but he can no longer be a full time starter. The dudes teeth are starting to leave groves in the turf.

I see quality DT/DE deep and often in the draft

Jarran Reed, DT/DE, Alabama 6034 313 5.14 - I see possible all pro Kevin Williams type of potential.
A'Shawn Robinson DT Alabama 6032 312 5.18 - Do I see a one trick pony here?
Vetron Butler NT/DT/DE LA Tech 6032 325 5.06 - DE skill set? not sure yet, but dam he is looking good
Chris Jones DT/DE Mississippi St 6045 308 5.12
Adam Gotsis, DT/DE, Georgia Tech 6046 285 4.88 - I really like this kids upside
Jihad Ward DT/DE Illinios 6051 296 4.98
Matt Ioannidis, DT/DE, Temple 6036 303 5.08
Quinton Jefferson DT/DE Maryland 6040 289 5.02


NT this year. None are a finished product but still have a ton of upside.

Austin Johnson NT Penn State 6043 325 5.27
D.J. Reader NT Clemson 6030 340 5.04 - guys this big are not suppose to be this fast or quick.

I have a hard time judging NT from spread football governed conferences and a rule of thumb is most do not pan out. Like OL they are fundamentally a mess and need a ton of work on the basics.

Sacks are over rated glamor points in the trenches and I see them as icing on the cake for DL. Almost every sack is a result of units play to allow it to happen.

But first and for most defense against running game has to well coached at this point in players development. They must have gap integrity.

Still hope the saints reach out and talk to my favorite bad boy of the draft who will be a late or by all odds be a UDFA because he was kicked off the team. For reasons I can respect. He did not start the fight, his friends did, according to reports. When enough was enough he put an end to it. This is NT mentality not the soft fluffy cuddly kitty stuff you get out of John Jenkins. That was my knock on him when we drafted him. One year of attitude does not cut it. either you are nasty or your a care bear. So here is one of my steals in the 2016 draft

Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6030 325 5.08

Two year starter with no games missed. Loves doing the dirty work in the trenches. Get this kid in and see what you got. He is a space eater with pride and attitude. May not be an all pro but I would not be surprised to see him have a long and productive career in the NFL. At least talk to the kid. I got a long list of swing and misses on these types but I do get one or two every other year.

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The problem picking a NT for the Saints is they get them to drop weight for they can play faster instead of letting them put weight on to clog those holes and take on double teams constantly. Unless we get a true space eater that does just the down and dirty trench work our middle will still be exposed and give 5 yards a play on run downs. We need a relentless and heavy 3 down NT and things will get better. We need a stud up front.

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Ok hung over from last nights trade and drink draft party. no the ability to have the cash to sign all your picks is not included.

But for the fist time in almost 20 years of doing this I did get voted best draft to fix their team. so i am happy as a pig in crap oh wait no trophy or anything plus they have not played a down yet lol so anyways here to drinking and drafted and trading.

Trade 1 - 12 to Houston 12 22 52 - Paxton Lynch - QB, Memphis
1- 22 Jarran Reed, DT/DE, Alabama 6034 313 5.14

2 - 47 Darian Thompson FS/SS Boise St 6020 210 4.56

Trade 2- 2 - 52 to kc 59 123 150 Su'a Cravens, S/OLB, USC
Trade 3 - 59 to Tenn 64 128 Jeremy Cash, S, Duke

3 - 64 Jordan Jenkins OLB Georgia 6025 257 4.64

Trade 4 - 3 - 78 to Minn 86 118 William Jackson III, CB, Houston
3 - 86 Nick Vannett TE Ohio State 6056 256 4.76

4 - 109 D.J. Reader DT Clemson 6021 325 5.04
4 - 118 Connor McGovern OG Missouri 6042 305 5.02
4 - 123 Sebastian Tretola, ROG, Arkansas 6045 334 5.28

5 - 128 - Kolby Listenbee WR TCU 6013 183 4.36
5 - 140 - LeShaun Sims CB Southern Utah 6003 195 4.45

6 - 150 Terrance Smith OLB/ILB Florida State 6032 232 4.64
6 - 175 De'Vondre Campbell, OLB Minnesota 6035 241 4.73

7 - 233 Mike Thomas, WR, S. Miss 6010 186 4.52


UDFA
Justin Simmons SS/CB Boston College 6024 201 4.59
Rashard Robinson CB/FS LSU 6015 182 4.49
Eric Rawls, DB, Kentucky State 6020 195 4.41
Brad Craddock K Maryland 6003 192 4.88
Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6-3 325 5.00
Jonah Austin, G/OT, Nicholls State 6052 330 5.35

After round three i was set with picks and could not get anyone to trade with me up or down because i was to greedy or they were to cheap lol. But i was ok with i reached for the heavens or to the gates of hell at will.

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The great thing about the Senior Bowl(s) is both the practices during the week and the game itself has a higher concentration of talent at all positions...

I don't get why Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech, is overlooked as a Nose Tackle which is his natural position...

Now Butler could be there when we select in Round 2 (chances are slim); that's why I'd really like to sign Jets free agent NT Damon Harrison allowing more freedom in the draft...

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Jarran Reed, DT/DE, Alabama 6034 313 5.14

matched with

Vetron Butler NT/DT/DE LA Tech 6032 325 5.06

Is something I would like to see develop

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lets add some speed! My take? A one-trick pony? But one trick is pretty neat. reportedly run a 4.29-second 40-yard dash. A couple of inches taller than Ted Ginn but better hands. Imagine Cook having this kind of speed taking the top off a defense for him. I think there is enough upside in the kid to get Henderson or Meachem type of numbers out of him without wasting a first round pick. As a 4th/5th WR he is a pretty neat toy

5 - 128 - Kolby Listenbee WR TCU 6013 183 4.36

Bottom Line
Intriguing draft prospect with good height, hands and ball skills and the second gear to threaten defenses deep. Listenbee won't help much as a run blocker and he's not sudden enough to be a consistent worker from the slot, but winning deep can produce touchdowns which will get him into a camp.

Kolby Listenbee Draft Profile

An NFC personnel director says a team will take a chance on TCU senior WR Kolby Listenbee because of his speed.
The evaluator said any player that approaches 10 seconds in the 100 meters is worth a long look by the NFL. Listenbee clocked a 10.03 at the Big 12 championships earlier this year. Not only that, but the 6-foot-1, 183-pound senior has reportedly run a 4.29-second 40-yard dash.

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/cfb/...olby-listenbee

vs Eric Murray CB Minnesota 5105 196 4.51 one of my favorite CB in the draft the knock on eric is speed/hiegth but not smarts. This shows Murry's smarts and the effort Kolby gives on the field



Highlights candy


5 - 140 - LeShaun Sims CB Southern Utah 6003 195 4.45

TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline reports that "several teams" believe Southern Utah CB LeShaun Sims will be a better NFL player than heralded teammate S Miles Killebrew.
"The belief is Sims, who looked terrific at Shrine practice on Monday, is a plug and play cornerback while Killebrew, who’ll be at the Senior Bowl next week, is more a product of size and speed," Pauline wrote. The 6-foot, 200-pound Sims currently has a Day 3 grade, while Killebrew is perceived as a surefire Day 2 selection
Recent news on LeShaun Sims - Southern Utah Thunderbirds - Rotoworld.com

Been asking around about this kid and all i get is solid all around CB with good upside. just needs more coaching

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Need a homer on this kid - wth happened?

Rashard Robinson CB/FS LSU 6015 182 4.49
Former LSU junior CB Rashard Robinson declared for the 2016 NFL Draft.
"After much prayer thought & consideration over the past months and deliberation with my family I have decided to declare for the 2016 NFL Draft," Robinson posted on Facebook. We're extremely interested to see how Robinson's situation plays out. The 6-foot-3, 180-pound cornerback hasn't played since 2013, when he was a freshman. That year, he played in 12 games, holding Texas A&M wide receiver Mike Evans to four catches and 51 yards in his first career start. Robinson was suspended indefinitely in 2014 after violating team rules and was unable to gain reinstatement by head coach Les Miles prior to this season. It's a bit surprising that he didn't transfer to get back on the field, but the skill and length are both NFL caliber.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132525/

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I heard more about this kid OFF the field that ON it while at LSU.

Not so sure he is NFL material :rolleyes:.

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My Selection Board with updates...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

News: https://www.seccountry.com/mississip...eing-that-high

Treadwell’s draft stock didn’t seem far off expectations – Kiper had him going seventh to the San Francisco 49ers – but the draft guru did warn that the Ole Miss receivers’ high draft status could plummet.

“He has tremendous hands, huge hands, great size, but the comparisons to Alshon Jeffery are accurate,” Kiper said during a conference call. “But Alshon Jeffery was a second-round pick. We’re talking about a top-10 pick here. So, he’s got to run well enough to warrant being that high a pick.”


R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

News: Darian Thompson impresses in Senior Bowl - Story


R3, S15 (Pick 79) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs.

News: Senior Bowl: SUU's Miles Killebrew quietly impresses during showcase game


R4, S14 (Pick 110*) OG Joe Dahl, Washington St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 310 lbs.

News: WSU Cougars’ OL Joe Dahl shines at Senior Bowl practices | The Seattle Times


R5, S13 (Pick 141*) QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 218 lbs.


R6, S12 (Pick 172*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)


R7, S16 (Pick 208*) LB Nick Kwiatkoski, West Virginia; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 236 lbs.

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Scouts pick Miller, Wentz as Senior Bowl standouts | ProFootballTalk

Former Ohio State star Braxton Miller is trying to complete a transformation from quarterback to wide receiver and be an impact player in the NFL.

He probably made some money this week.

A panel of NFL scouts and Senior Bowl personnel voted the dynamic Miller as the top practice performer. Hundreds of NFL coaches, scouts and personnel execs watched three days of NFL-type practices this week in Mobile, Ala.

Also voted as top performers at their respective positions were Carson Wentz of North Dakota State, top quarterback; Kenneth Dixon of Louisiana Tech, top running back; Sterling Shepard of Oklahoma, top wide receiver; Jason Spriggs of Indiana, top offensive lineman; Noah Spence of Eastern Kentucky, top defensive lineman; Reggie Ragland of Alabama, top linebacker; Harlan Miller of Southeast Louisiana, top defensive back; and Jeff Overbaugh of San Diego State, top specialist.

Observation: Know the Saints spent some time with Noah Spence, but I have a hard time believing the Saints would step out of their norm on a prospect with past character, dependency issues...

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All I know is if Ohio #43 Darron Lee OLB gets drafted by the Saints I get his family tickets.

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Yellin: Saints should keep an eye on these 3 defensive gems in draft

Lyons Yellin, Eyewitness Sports, lyellin@wwltv.com 5:52 a.m. CST February 1, 2016

MOBILE – Now that the weeklong job interview for some of college football’s best seniors -- otherwise known as the Senior Bowl -- is complete, here are three defensive players whom the Saints ought to consider drafting this year.

1. Noah Spence, Eastern Kentucky, DE, 6-3, 254 pounds...More on Noah Spence

2. Vernon Butler, La. Tech, DT, 6-3, 325 pounds...More on Vernon Butler

3. Deion Jones, LSU, WLB, 6-3, 219 pounds...More on Deion Jones

Source: Yellin: Saints should keep an eye on these 3 defensive gems in draft

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Butler would look good in a Saints uniform. I would easily have no problem at all with him. I still hope he's there in the 2nd.

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Noah Spence? i just can not see it after all the house cleaning we did that hung a hug dead money dead weight around our neck last year

Butler should be off the board when we pick in round 2

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My Current Slate...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 317 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) LB Joe Schobert, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 247 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) DE Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 285 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) TE David J. Grinnage, North Carolina St.; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 265 lbs.

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Several of the early mocks are showing the Saints taking A'Shawn Robinson in the first round...

After watching some more games over the weekend, I prefer Jarran Reed because of his versatility...

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Okay, found some new names for y'all; Williams can bring the truck when he hits; don't know Adams makes it to us in the fourth, likely at the end of the third like someone else; If Treadwell is there, no way Payton passes on him, he Laquon runs a great 40 at the combine - Ravens or 49ers take him; Gotsis was injured and likely falls, but the guy reminds me alot of the Broncos DE Derek Wolfe; Tretola is Jahri 2.0, enough said; and Jairus Byrd can ride the bench by season's end if we get Darian Thompson who should be there when we pick in the second...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 317 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) TE Jerell Adams, South Carolina; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 245 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) LB Antwione Williams, Georgia Southern; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 247 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) DE Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 285 lbs.

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what has Lee the LB form Ohio St done to move up rankings? Just seems odd before the combine to see players move up and down

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Lee is a 3 down type of WLB no way around it and a good one with a high floor and upside still to develop. But mid first round talent? I am not completely sold on that one. Oddly enough it is the lack off talent at a position that can drive players up the chart also. WLB is a questionable position this year. A lot of players are hype driven at WLB.

WLB get all the press and the glory. Lee is a very good WLB but playing with Washington and Bosa in front of him makes me wonder if it more the sum of the parts that made him so good. I credit Lee, he is a good player. But I would ponder the sum of the parts bit when making the pick. Plus he did kinda fade towards the end of the season. As did most of OSU after they were out of the running. So when drafting an OSU player this year I will question this part of their game.

Other players were the sum of their parts is a consideration

Kinda like Kevin Dodd DE Clemson and all the fan fare he is getting. another good player but he really did not take off till the return of D.J. Reader DT Clemson. When Reader got back on the field then Dodd starting to have a bigger impact on games. Or was it Reader that was really having the most impact of the two?

Same goes for the DL of Penn st. Almost all of them are falling on the boards but one, Austin Johnson NT Penn State. As the play of the others are exposed the more Austin play becomes obvious.

just some thing i always ponder