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Highly doubt it.

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I honestly don't anticipate Hakeem making the final 53.

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I'm kinda relieved. I was afraid the Saints would over pay for him. I think the Falcons will see flashes of what he's capable of doing but I don't think he's able to keep up the same game in and game out pressure that he used to.

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http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums105-picture651.jpg

Other than having a veteran receiver (i.e. my fav right now is Hartline) and no real help out there as far as interior linemen, I like what we've got on our roster.

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If this guy hits the open market, Saints need to be all over this in a New Orleans second...

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Top 5 2016 Saints Free Agent Signings:

#1 52 - Craig Robertson

#2 90 - Nick Fairley

#3 53 - James Laurinaitis

#4 82 - Coby Fleener

#5 54 - Nate Stupar

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F*ck that short bastard and f*ck the Falcons!

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Okay, not nearly as bad as the Falcons, but, the S'hawks, really Jahri?!?

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Some possible waiver wire targets to consider:

WR Moritz Böhringer, 6' 4", 227 lbs.
OL Barrett Jones, 6' 4", 306 lbs.
OL Jermon Bushrod, 6' 4", 306 lbs.
OL Michael Schofield, 6' 6", 301 lbs.
OL Denver Kirkland, 6' 4", 303 lbs.
...to be continued...

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Im sure i read the other day that Bushrod was being labled as a Guard. Did he get pushed insude once he left?


Barrett Jones,the same utility lineman from Alabama?
That injury must have set him back as i thought he would easy stick around the league as at worst a grest back up who could fill any position on the line

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Ok anyone worth a look
Randy Starks, DT, Browns.
Sammy Lee Hill Titans
Stephen Bowen Jets
Demarcus Dobbs DT Seahawks
Cam Thomas
Devon Still Bengals
Alex Carrington, DE/DT, Bills.
Alameda Ta'amu Chiefs
Clifton Geathers Steelers
Tommy Kelly, DT, Cardinals.

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So who's out there at the 3 technique now that Rankins is gone for 2 months?

Edit: Nevermind... Lee answered my question right as I posted this.

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We've already got his replacement on the roster in C.J. Wilson; very capable, still got some in the tank and was part of a Superbowl Winning rotation at DT for the Packers...

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after watching the OG play against the Pats not sure if a seasoned vet would not be a better option while some of these young pups get a chance to get coached up to replace some of these players we have had around a few years that appear to reached there peak and have little left to give.

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Don't understand why the need for another DT when we've got good ones already on the roster...

Where was the need to spend money on DTs when there were better choices earlier in Free Agency?!?

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do not panic. I agree.

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Hey, look SJB is available!

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SJB waived? ... a shocker :brood:.

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From Walter Football...

Aug. 12 Updates

http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/saintsb_logo.gifSaints CB Cortland Finnegan: C Grade
The Saints signing a cornerback makes sense in the wake of losing Keenan Lewis to an injury. Unfortunately, there wasn't much out there. It's a bit sad that Cortland Finnegan was the best New Orleans could come up with.

I don't blame the Saints for signing Finnegan, who is completely done, but this "C" grade is more about not addressing the position in the offseason. New Orleans knew about Lewis' injury history, so failing to either sign or draft someone was an obvious mistake.

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And this is what Walter Football had for us on the Kuhn signing...

Aug. 6 Updates

http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/saintsb_logo.gifSaints sign FB John Kuhn: B+ Grade
It's surprising that John Kuhn was floating around in free agency for so long. Kuhn, despite his age (34 in November), played very well this past season. He touched the ball just 15 times, but he was a very effective blocker for the Packers.

Signing Kuhn seems like a solid move for the Saints, worthy of a B+ grade. New Orleans didn't have a logical starting fullback, and Kuhn is certainly capable of filling that void. Mark Ingram has to like this move, though Kuhn might take some of his goal-line touches.

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For what we've paid Spiller to sit on the bench...

http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/eaglesb_logo.gif Eagles extend RB Darren Sproles (1 year, $4.5 million): C Grade
There were two signings I somehow missed yesterday, so I'll get to them now. This is the lesser of the two transactions, so I'll get to it first.

I can't say I understand this move. Sproles was set to become a free agent after this season, so why was it so imperative for the Eagles to keep him on for 2017 as well? Sproles performed well as a pass-catcher last year, logging 55 receptions, but he just turned 33 this summer. It's very reasonable to expect him to decline this upcoming year, so why would the Eagles want to be on the hook for $4.5 million in 2017 if that's the case? Why not just re-sign Sproles next spring if he continues to play well?

I'm not going to grade this too harshly because it's a transaction that could definitely work out, but it just doesn't seem too smart. Hence, a "C" feels appropriate.

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And this was the Robertson signing grade from Walter...

http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/saintsb_logo.gif Saints sign ILB Craig Robertson (3 years, $5 million): B+ Grade
The Saints have made numerous questionable signings this offseason, senselessly throwing tons of money at pedestrian players like Coby Fleener and James Laurinaitis. This is definitely not like those moves, as I'm giving it a B+ instead of a Millen.

Bringing in Craig Robertson for less than $2 million annually is a solid deal. Robertson didn't play that well in 2015 because of a lingering foot injury, but he has been a decent player in the past. He can start, and he wouldn't be too much of a liability - he's actually probably better than Laurinaitis - but his main role will be as a sub-package linebacker who will help in coverage.

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I truly felt that we would take a corner back early (rd's 2 or 3) in the 2016 draft. Especially with the uncertainty (health issues) of Swann & K Lewis this off season.

Finnegan is only a temporary fix.

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Well this was a rare grade for the Saints in FA from Walter...

http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/saintsb_logo.gif Saints sign DT Nick Fairley (1 year, $3 million): A+ Grade
The Saints had been enduring a miserable spring thus far, greatly overpaid for bad players like James Laurinaitis, Josh Hill and Coby Fleener. I had given them a Millen grade in my NFL Free Agent Team Grades page, but this signing moves them out of that territory.

This is an outstanding addition. Nick Fairley is extremely talented and would be playing for a much greater contract if teams weren't concerns for his lethargy issues. It's why Fairley had to sign a 1-year pact last offseason, and he happened to play extremely well for the Rams. It's likely he'll perform just as well for the Saints, given that he'll once again be trying to prove that he's worthy of a big contract. Fairley, who offers no downside here, fills a big hole for the Saints, who desperately needed an interior pass-rusher.

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And we're now barely using the guy!
http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/saintsb_logo.gif Saints re-sign TE Josh Hill (3 years, $7.5M; $3.25M guaranteed): C- Grade
The Saints signed Nick Fairley today, but the financial terms aren't available for that quite yet. What I can grade for New Orleans is the re-signing of Josh Hill, whose offer sheet from the Bears was matched on Friday.

I don't get why the Saints matched the offer sheet. Even though $3.25 million guaranteed isn't an absurd amount of NFL money in the grand scheme of things, it's way too much for Hill, who was a disappointment last year. Expected to post big numbers in the wake of Jimmy Graham's departure, Hill caught just 16 passes for 120 yards and two touchdowns. Granted, Hill is a solid blocker, but blocking tight ends can be found anywhere. With that in mind, are those figures really worth $2.5 million annually and $3.25 million guaranteed?

I could maybe understand this signing if Hill was the best option at the position on the Saints' roster, but the team signed Coby Fleener to a laughable amount earlier in free agency. It's becoming quite evident that the New Orleans front office can't appropriately determine the value of tight ends.

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This is absolutely the funniest grade I've read - thought of it when that bogus depth chart came down...

http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/saintsb_logo.gif Saints sign TE Coby Fleener (5 years, $36 million): KIELBASA SLIPS THROUGH THE FINGERS MILLEN Grade
I wonder how it feels to be a Colts fan right now. On one hand, they must be very depressed that they still have the incompetent Ryan Grigson running things. On the other hand, they have to be cracking up upon seeing the numbers Coby Fleener received from the Saints.

This signing is horrible. Aside from perhaps Vernon Davis, no tight end drops more passes than Coby Fleener. I'm sure he'll post some great numbers with Drew Brees throwing the ball to him, but he'll absolutely kill his new team with some untimely drops. Then again, maybe he won't be a fantasy monster, given that he couldn't produce with Andrew Luck, even when Dwayne Allen was out of the lineup with his injury issues.

This is an easy Millen. I don't understand what the Saints saw in him to make them believe that he's worth more than $7 million per year. Fleener, an average starter at best, would've been overpaid had he gotten half as much.

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Yeah i was shocked at that move
If you can run a route and catch Brees will do the rest. Didnt see the need to spend 7ml on a TE. Could have got a DT/CB for that

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We could have had a guard and Ben Watson back too!

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Yeah i think getting a DE to start opposite Cam would have made sense and both William Hayes Derek Wolfe could have been got for similar as could
Evan Mathis,Kelechi Osemele(a bit over),Alex Boone,Jeff Allen,Matt Slauson

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Lee...Wolfe signed before hitting the market...

No wanted Evan Mathis and he just moved on to win a Superbowl with Denver; Incognito bounced back and showed he was still a good teammate, even if he's Old School Locker Man Type...

The opportunity was the previous year when a number of quality guards were available, and affordable, and we procrastinated to get Browner for a bargain basement price, and we got basement results...

Only quality DEs were snapped up quick and were cost prohibitive for us...

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Fair enough
Didnt realise Wolfe signed soon.
Suprised nobody wanted Mathis,he is a well known solud guard.

I said in here before Incognito come back into the league we should have looked at him

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coulda shoulda woulda

Damn, would you guys let the season start before we critique the players?