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Old 08-12-2017, 08:50 AM   #1
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Training Camp - PreSeason Week One

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 2 - Ryan Nassib, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67),
34 - Darius Victor (UDFA), 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet
WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn,
11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 15 - Jake Lampmann, 17 - Xavier Rush (UDFA)
LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes, 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen, 60 - Max Unger, 61 - Josh LeRibeus

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 62- Kristjan Sokoli

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 79 - Bryce Harris, 73 - Jerry Ugokwe

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui,
80 - Clay Harbor, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - John Phillips, 00 - Braedon Bowman
SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 88 - De'Quan Hampton (UDFA)


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp, 00 - Jason Jones, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103)

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 76 - Tony McDaniel

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 00 - John Hughes

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196), 58 - Obum Gwacham

WLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 52 - Craig Robertson, 99 - Adam Bighill

MLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 51 - Manti Te'o, 59 - Jonathan Walton UDFA

SLB (3) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti

RCB (2) 20 - Ken Crawley, 27 - Damian Swann, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 35 - Malik Foreman, 23 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11)

SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 25 - Rafael Bush, 31 - Chris Banjo

FS (2) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 30 - Erik Harris

LCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 40 - Delvin Breaux


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Justin Drescher


Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 46; Defense: 41; Kicking: 3
*Following Do Not Count Against League Roster Limit of Ninety (90) Players

PRACTICE SQUAD*

74 - Alex Jenkins (European Exemption)


RESERVE/INJURED*

LB 59 - Dannell Ellerbe

WR 85 - Dan Arnold

OL 73 - Martin Wallace

DT 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA) *NFI


RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL ILLNESS*

DT 90 - Nick Fairley


RESERVE/RETIRED*

OL 62 - Chris Watt


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Old 08-15-2017, 04:34 AM   #3
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2017 OFFENSIVE LINE

LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington/78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief


INJURED/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM

72 - Terron Armstead

We've got a terrific offensive line to start the season even if Kelemete starts at C and Unger is an Active/Injured roster spot for the first few weeks...

Barnes should hold the backup spot for Armstead until he returns; and if Ramczyk is doing well, which I think he'll do fantastic there, Armstead could be the backup T, taking the rest of the season to recover...

Still would like to see another backup interior lineman or maybe a swing G/T to round the group out and Fullington is best of the remaining group?!? Not so sure that third reserve is on the roster right now...

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Barnes should hold the backup spot for Armstead until he returns; and if Ramczyk is doing well, which I think he'll do fantastic there, Armstead could be the backup T, taking the rest of the season to recover...

Still would like to see another backup interior lineman or maybe a swing G/T to round the group out and Fullington is best of the remaining group?!? Not so sure that third reserve is on the roster right now...[/B]
If Ramczyk performs well it will open up interesting possibilities going forward. I think this might be Striefs last year and then we'll need to have another RT. The question then would be if Armstead would be healthy enough to trade and if somebody would be willing to pay much for him given his injury history.
Or in the best of worlds, IMHO, Armstead comes back mid season and reclaims the LT spot and we have him and Ramczyk at LT and RT next year.
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Old 08-15-2017, 02:40 PM   #5
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If Ramczyk performs well it will open up interesting possibilities going forward. I think this might be Striefs last year and then we'll need to have another RT. The question then would be if Armstead would be healthy enough to trade and if somebody would be willing to pay much for him given his injury history.
Or in the best of worlds, IMHO, Armstead comes back mid season and reclaims the LT spot and we have him and Ramczyk at LT and RT next year.
That's the catch-22. If he's healthy, we want him. If he's injured, nobody wants him.

Do we trade him away only to watch him play the next 10 years without missing a start or do we keep him, one of the best LT's in the league, only to have him ride the pine half of next season too?

Is he a C.J. Spiller or is he a Rob Ninkovich?
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Old 08-15-2017, 05:50 AM   #6
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2017 OFFENSIVE LINE

LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington/78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief
2018?
LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 69 - Khalif Barnes

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, Frank Ragnow C/OG,Arkansas

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, Frank Ragnow C/OG,Arkansas

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford Frank Ragnow C/OG,Arkansas

RT (1) 64 - Ryan Ramcyzk Zach Strief

77 - John Fullington
78 - Landon Turner
65 - Senio Kelemete

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72 - Terron Armstead

Still would like to see another backup interior lineman or maybe a swing G/T to round the group out and Fullington is best of the remaining group?!? Not so sure that third reserve is on the roster right now...
Ramczyk i can see as a serviceable LT. If he can be that swing OT in the long run for the saints that anchors the RT position I would be happy. This is what I expected with the pick. He should be able to hang at LT but the kid is green. One tear starter in college with good upside. He needs playing time sure but what a test.

I worry about quick speed DE against him.

If he does handle it It makes rushing Armstead back on the field pointless. More time to heal

If this is the case we are sitting great. If Streif stays healthy.

Then comes the annual question. can Armstead stay healthy? If not what is the game plan to minimize his cap hit?

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I worry about quick speed DE against him.
Me too and I hope they gameplan for that, use a RB to chip, TE with a slam-release and so on. Just don't leave him out there on an island if he isn't ready.
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Training Camp - PreSeason Week Two

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 2 - Ryan Nassib, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67),
34 - Darius Victor (UDFA), 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet
WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn,
11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 15 - Jake Lampmann, 17 - Xavier Rush (UDFA)
LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes, 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen, 60 - Max Unger, 61 - Josh LeRibeus

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford, 62- Kristjan Sokoli

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 79 - Bryce Harris, 73 - Jerry Ugokwe

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui,
80 - Clay Harbor, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - John Phillips, 00 - Braedon Bowman
SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 88 - De'Quan Hampton (UDFA)


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 73d - Jason Jones, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196)

DT (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 76 - Tony McDaniel, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 70 - Mitchell Loewen

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 68 - John Hughes

DE (3) 57 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 - Darryl Tapp, 58 - Obum Gwacham

WLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 52 - Craig Robertson, 99 - Adam Bighill

MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o, 50 - Stephone Anthony, 59 - Jonathan Walton UDFA

SLB (3) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti

RCB (2) 20 - Ken Crawley, 27 - Damian Swann, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 35 - Malik Foreman, 23 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11)

SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 25 - Rafael Bush, 31 - Chris Banjo

FS (2) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 30 - Erik Harris

LCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 40 - Delvin Breaux


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Justin Drescher


Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 46; Defense: 41; Kicking: 3
*Following Do Not Count Against League Roster Limit of Ninety (90) Players

PRACTICE SQUAD*

74 - Alex Jenkins (European Exemption)


RESERVE/INJURED*

LB 59 - Dannell Ellerbe

WR 85 - Dan Arnold

OL 73 - Martin Wallace

DT 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA) *NFI


RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL ILLNESS*

DT 90 - Nick Fairley


RESERVE/RETIRED*

OL 62 - Chris Watt


KEY:

PROJECTED STARTER

FREE AGENT

ROOKIE

INJURED

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

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Old 08-16-2017, 01:42 PM   #9
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Training Camp - PreSeason Week Two, Return of Lattimore, Breaux is Broke

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 2 - Ryan Nassib, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67),
34 - Darius Victor (UDFA), 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet
WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn,
11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 15 - Jake Lampmann, 17 - Xavier Rush (UDFA)
LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes, 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen, 60 - Max Unger, 61 - Josh LeRibeus

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford, 62- Kristjan Sokoli

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 79 - Bryce Harris, 73 - Jerry Ugokwe

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui,
80 - Clay Harbor, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - John Phillips, 00 - Braedon Bowman
SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 88 - De'Quan Hampton (UDFA)


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 73d - Jason Jones, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196)

DT (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 76 - Tony McDaniel, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 70 - Mitchell Loewen

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 68 - John Hughes

DE (3) 57 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 - Darryl Tapp, 58 - Obum Gwacham

WLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 52 - Craig Robertson, 99 - Adam Bighill

MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o, 50 - Stephone Anthony, 59 - Jonathan Walton UDFA

SLB (3) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 20 - Ken Crawley, 27 - Damian Swann, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 35 - Malik Foreman

SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 25 - Rafael Bush, 31 - Chris Banjo

FS (2) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 30 - Erik Harris

LCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 40 - Delvin Breaux


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Justin Drescher


Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 46; Defense: 41; Kicking: 3
*Following Do Not Count Against League Roster Limit of Ninety (90) Players

PRACTICE SQUAD*

74 - Alex Jenkins (European Exemption)


RESERVE/INJURED*

LB 59 - Dannell Ellerbe

WR 85 - Dan Arnold

OL 73 - Martin Wallace

DT 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA) *NFI


RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL ILLNESS*

DT 90 - Nick Fairley


RESERVE/RETIRED*

OL 62 - Chris Watt


KEY:

PROJECTED STARTER

FREE AGENT

ROOKIE

INJURED

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Training Camp - PreSeason Week Two, Practice with LA Chargers

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 2 - Ryan Nassib, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA)

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67),
34 - Darius Victor (UDFA), 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet
WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn,
11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 15 - Jake Lampmann, 17 - Xavier Rush (UDFA)
LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes, 72 - Terron Armstead (PUP)

LG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 62- Kristjan Sokoli

C (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 61 - Josh LeRibeus, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 60 - Max Unger

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 78 - Landon Turner, 66 - Jack Allen

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 79 - Bryce Harris, 73 - Jerry Ugokwe

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui,
80 - Clay Harbor, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - John Phillips, 00 - Braedon Bowman
SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 88 - De'Quan Hampton (UDFA)


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196), 73d - Jason Jones

DT (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 68 - John Hughes

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata, 76 - Tony McDaniel, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (3) 57 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 - Darryl Tapp, 58 - Obum Gwacham

WLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 52 - Craig Robertson, 59 - Jonathan Walton UDFA

MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o, 50 - Stephone Anthony, 99 - Adam Bighill

SLB (3) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti

RCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 23 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 27 - Damian Swann, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 35 - Malik Foreman

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 25 - Rafael Bush, 31 - Chris Banjo

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 30 - Erik Harris

LCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 40 - Delvin Breaux


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Justin Drescher


Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 46; Defense: 41; Kicking: 3
*Following Do Not Count Against League Roster Limit of Ninety (90) Players

PRACTICE SQUAD*

74 - Alex Jenkins (European Exemption)


RESERVE/INJURED*

LB 59 - Dannell Ellerbe

WR 85 - Dan Arnold

OL 73 - Martin Wallace

DT 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA) *NFI


RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL ILLNESS*

DT 90 - Nick Fairley


RESERVE/RETIRED*

OL 62 - Chris Watt


KEY:

PROJECTED STARTER

FREE AGENT

ROOKIE

INJURED

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

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