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jeanpierre 03-03-2017 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 738265)
Brandon Marshall is being cut. I'll take another big body receiver to pair with Thomas for a little while in a heartbeat. He's what the Saints prefer anyway. We can sign Cordarelle Patterson or Marquis Goodwin to stretch the field.
Cooper Kupp caught everything at the Reese's Senior Bowl and all the Saints men were there watching him...

Get a first and third for Cooks, draft Kupp in the second, and we're moving along...

dizzle88 03-03-2017 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 738274)
Cooper Kupp caught everything at the Reese's Senior Bowl and all the Saints men were there watching him...

Get a first and third for Cooks, draft Kupp in the second, and we're moving along...
Just watched some highlights, he has a big catching radius, which is made all the more evident because the QB's throwing to him aren't very accurate. I'm not familiar with that many college athletes, but I wouldn't be disappointed if we got him, however I'd like to address D first.

jeanpierre 03-03-2017 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 738260)
I really don't get how I crack you up but ok, Fairley unsigned will test FA= my want for a NT that can slide in and play NT and DT I might not be as big of a Fairley fan as you, our glass cb.s should speak for themselves not seeing the field and being in the tub club all year, S- Byrd being released and not sure Harper has much left to offer, OLB is a need with cover skills, and a DE thats not a one trick pony, we need one that contains and don't get smothered rushing the passer, as far as Vaccarro= overrated and he still is but if it cracks you up I'm good with it. I just look at a 28th ranked D.
Well, you should read all the threads as Fairley obviously had a good year, but I'm hardly a "fan" and I've explained my feelings on keeping him...

Harper has nothing left to offer, save coaching and mentoring...

Defenses really have to gel, sync, and while we have plenty of positions that could use upgrade, I don't agree that blowing the defense up, again, is the answer...

jeanpierre 03-03-2017 09:38 AM
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jeanpierre 03-03-2017 09:52 AM
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jeanpierre 03-03-2017 09:55 AM
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Raymond has some thoughts...

dizzle88 03-03-2017 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 738289)
Excellent news!

For a guy that has 17 TD's and 2400 yards over the last 2 seasons I'd expect no less than a first round pick.

I'd love to have 2 first round picks, our D could really use that help.

Just imagine this;

Mike Nolan propels Stephone Anthony's growth and he becomes the player we envisioned
We then draft Derek Barnett for our DE and Reuben Foster at LB both in the first round

Corner is handled in the second and third rounds

How good would that be!

Even better if we re-sign Fairley to a decent deal.

Utah_Saint 03-03-2017 10:43 AM
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The PhillyEagleNews is reporting the Eagles are offering a 2nd round pick and a player.

REPORT: Eagles 'Likely' Landing Spot for Star Wide Receiver | 12up

Pete 03-03-2017 10:44 AM
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Yep:bng:

ChrisXVI 03-03-2017 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 738295)
The PhillyEagleNews is reporting the Eagles are offering a 2nd round pick and a player.

REPORT: Eagles 'Likely' Landing Spot for Star Wide Receiver | 12up
I know there was talk about Philly looking to trade LB Mychal Kendricks. How would you guys feel about Cooks for a 2nd rounder and Kendricks?

lee909 03-03-2017 10:54 AM
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Pick 11 R2 they hold

K Major 03-03-2017 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 738295)
The PhillyEagleNews is reporting the Eagles are offering a 2nd round pick and a player.

REPORT: Eagles 'Likely' Landing Spot for Star Wide Receiver | 12up
I'd laugh, then hang up ... what "player" are they speaking of? Saints aren't desperate to trade. We hold the cards here.

Utah_Saint 03-03-2017 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 738297)
I know there was talk about Philly looking to trade LB Mychal Kendricks. How would you guys feel about Cooks for a 2nd rounder and Kendricks?
From Rotoworld

A source told Philly Voice's Jimmy Kempski that the Eagles are indeed likely to trade SLB Mychal Kendricks.
Kempski previously strongly speculated Kendricks would be moved, and he now has a source confirming it. Kendricks regressed into a lightly used sub-package linebacker under first-year DC Jim Schwartz, playing fewer snaps than both MLB Jordan Hicks and WLB Nigel Bradham. If the Eagles can't find a taker for the remainder of Kendricks' five-year, $30 million deal, Kempski believes they may designate him a post-June 1 cut, freeing up $5 million in cap room. The Eagles would likely be willing to deal Kendricks for a mid- to late-round pick. Feb 12 - 7:01 PM

Someone to keep Anthony company?

K Major 03-03-2017 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 738297)
I know there was talk about Philly looking to trade LB Mychal Kendricks. How would you guys feel about Cooks for a 2nd rounder and Kendricks?
Nope. I wouldn't ... Kendricks is on his way out (release/cut) of Philly anyway.
Philly must think we are stupid.

hagan714 03-03-2017 11:08 AM
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Mychal Kendricks I pondered and his a 34 LB and K is right he is a prime cap causality waiting to happen.

lee909 03-03-2017 11:15 AM
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Didnt watch him last year so wasnt aware of him not playing.
No way trade for him. Id take him as a FA though

K Major 03-03-2017 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 738307)
No way trade for him. Id take him as a FA though
Saints FO really don't have to trade Cooks this year. You could attempt this scenario (trade) next year and probably still get a second. I'm in the minority but you just can't give away proven NFL talent for a shot in the dark with an unknown (2nd rounder) player. No way Jose'.

If Philly ain't talking 1st rounder trade scenarios, we really don't have much to discuss at this point.

ChrisXVI 03-03-2017 11:30 AM
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Wait, I think I've figured it out... Cooks to Philly for Malcolm Jenkins!!!

lee909 03-03-2017 11:33 AM
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I agree with that
If its a second it has to be a top player the other way

voodooido 03-03-2017 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 738295)
The PhillyEagleNews is reporting the Eagles are offering a 2nd round pick and a player.

REPORT: Eagles 'Likely' Landing Spot for Star Wide Receiver | 12up
Not sure there is many people on that defense I would want! If they picked up Bennie logans 5th year and gave us a 2nd I could smile. Chances of Logan resigning with the saints would be high. Shreveport kid who went to LSU

K Major 03-03-2017 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 738313)
Not sure there is many people on that defense I would want! If they picked up Bennie logans 5th year and gave us a 2nd I could smile.
You would smile for taking a 2nd rounder for Cooks?? Where is the value in that trade scenario?

voodooido 03-03-2017 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 738314)
You would smile for taking a 2nd rounder for Cooks?? Where is the value in that trade scenario?
A rd 2 and Logan heck yeah. Dude is a beast and would solidify that d-line right away. Maybe we could really screw them over and get them to throw in Agholor too.

K Major 03-03-2017 12:06 PM
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Saints have already made it clear that Cooks wouldn't come cheap in any trade scenario + we gave up a 1st and a 3rd to get him. Getting less than that would be down right dumb.

Tell the Feagles to kick rocks.

Saints would want a first-round pick for Brandin Cooks - NFL.com

Edit: Brees84, LMAO on Agholor!! The guy can't catch a cold.

brees84 03-03-2017 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 738315)
A rd 2 and Logan heck yeah. Dude is a beast and would solidify that d-line right away. Maybe we could really screw them over and get them to throw in Agholor too.
Stone hands Agholor?

Logan is solid player but not on the level of other Free agents to be: Williams, Chris Baker... Baker is also very good pass rusher...

dizzle88 03-03-2017 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 738317)
Stone hands Agholor?

Logan is solid player but not on the level of other Free agents to be: Williams, Chris Baker... Baker is also very good pass rusher...
Remember who cured stone hands Devery Henderson - Curtis Johnson, back on the staff, I bet he could help Agholor.

However, defense comes first and if the Eagles can send a top D player then great.

ScottF 03-03-2017 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 738309)
Saints FO really don't have to trade Cooks this year. You could attempt this scenario (trade) next year and probably still get a second. I'm in the minority but you just can't give away proven NFL talent for a shot in the dark with an unknown (2nd rounder) player. No way Jose'.

If Philly ain't talking 1st rounder trade scenarios, we really don't have much to discuss at this point.
It's funny how one poster says Cooks wants out and so many jump at it.
One hack writer with 1200 followers says that it is Cooks pushing to get out, and no one else can corroborate
Cooks is a top receiver. You don't just give those guys away.

halloween 65 03-03-2017 12:38 PM
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I might strongly consider a 2nd with Wentz but not just a 2nd by itself.

CheramieIII 03-03-2017 12:53 PM
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If we take a 2nd only then our front office is stupid but if we take #18 and a 2nd that's a different story and give us a little more back than we paid to get him in the first place.

Rugby Saint II 03-03-2017 02:09 PM
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We all love Cooks! He's a deep threat and a hell of a decoy. :wink:

He is part of the dynamic trio of Cooks , Thomas and Snead. We don't have the depth to let him leave currently when I look at the depth roster. It's a no brainer.

Still, the idea of gaining a couple of high draft picks or an impact defensive player and high draft pick in a draft rich in defensive players at positions that we covet has it's merits. Ireland seems to have the eye for talent. If we give him a couple of more picks we might get lucky again like last year.

foreverfan 03-03-2017 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 738291)
Excellent news!

For a guy that has 17 TD's and 2400 yards over the last 2 seasons I'd expect no less than a first round pick.

I'd love to have 2 first round picks, our D could really use that help.

Just imagine this;

Mike Nolan propels Stephone Anthony's growth and he becomes the player we envisioned
We then draft Derek Barnett for our DE and Reuben Foster at LB both in the first round

Corner is handled in the second and third rounds

How good would that be!

Even better if we re-sign Fairley to a decent deal.
What about Free Agency? :p

jeanpierre 03-03-2017 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 738295)
The PhillyEagleNews is reporting the Eagles are offering a 2nd round pick and a player.

REPORT: Eagles 'Likely' Landing Spot for Star Wide Receiver | 12up
Darren Sproles? Mychal Kendricks is on the trading block...

44Champs 03-03-2017 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 738348)
Darren Sproles? Mychal Kendricks is on the trading block...
With everyone talking about how deep this draft is on Defense, this might not be a bad move as long as we pick up a starter w long- term potential with that player pick.

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CheramieIII 03-03-2017 02:28 PM
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I would do their 1st and a player, defensive of course. They be getting a good value and finally so will we!

jeanpierre 03-03-2017 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 738297)
I know there was talk about Philly looking to trade LB Mychal Kendricks. How would you guys feel about Cooks for a 2nd rounder and Kendricks?
It's a first and Kendricks (Philly is changing their scheme)...We traded our first (R1,27th & R3,91st to get the 20th pick (850 net) and select Cooks, then you factor the pro Cooks has become and his proven production, age, etc...

Cooks is now an established, proven, elite receiver and opposite Jordan Matthews, keep the heat on 'em and get the 15th pick from 'em (Minnesota's pick) and then you can really jump start the defense, or trade that 15th pick down and pick up even more in this incredible draft...

lee909 03-03-2017 02:49 PM
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We shouldn't touch Kendricks as its sounds like the are trying to shop him before they habe to cut him. Id give them a late round pick for him as he is the sort of athletic LB we need or pick him up via FA after a cut
He shouldn't be a player we agree on especially not for him snd a 2.

SAINTstunna 03-03-2017 03:11 PM
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anything to help that pathetic defense . . our offense is never a question . . we will be alright with thomas, snead, and a receiver from the draft.

MarchingOn 03-03-2017 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 738297)
I know there was talk about Philly looking to trade LB Mychal Kendricks. How would you guys feel about Cooks for a 2nd rounder and Kendricks?
Should have taken his LB brother with the Anthony pick in the 1st. That Kendrick is younger and plays all LB positions well.

brees84 03-03-2017 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MarchingOn (Post 738375)
Should have taken his LB brother with the Anthony pick in the 1st. That Kendrick is younger and plays all LB positions well.
Also has some fine coaches in Minnesota.

hagan714 03-03-2017 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 738348)
Darren Sproles? Mychal Kendricks is on the trading block...
pass. a draft like this take the picks

ChrisXVI 03-03-2017 05:35 PM
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