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Sarik 03-07-2017 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 738930)
See the Saints fan on there saying he has heard Cooks and 11 for 5 and 18

Thoughts
Not sure myself. Id like a 3/4 to sweeten that a bit.

5 would be great and 18 still bery good.

Yep. I personally would be more than happy with that, but don't believe thats possible. Kind of like getting #5 for Cooks straight up. that would be two top 20 picks in a DEEP Defensive class, who doesn't like the sound of that.

lee909 03-07-2017 05:21 AM

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Its probably fair for both teams looking at it. They get a proven talent cheap for 2 years and get to move up 7 spots in the draft for the number 5 pick.

Saints jump straight into the top 5 and still get a mod rounder where they can get a good talent. Or even trade back for a few more picks with either.

Jumping Carolina and having LF on the board at 5 could really be turned into a few picks.

Maybe even bring the Eagles into the frame for a WR as they have

spkb25 03-07-2017 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 738883)
I know where it came from. It's not a coincidence that Cooks posted that after Thomas posted what he posted. People use song quotes to sub tweet all the time. I mean ALL the time. As soon as Thomas posted that quote it wasn't even 5 minutes before Cooks responded...then he deleted the tweet. Thomas probably told him it wasn't about him, but Cooks definitely thought it was.

That **** by cooks and MT is no coincidence. You're right. They can try and cover it up and all that, but they know what they're doing

spkb25 03-07-2017 05:28 AM

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Cooks is one of the best in the league. He is young and just starting to hit his prime. If I am the Saints I hold out for quite a bit. Good for us that we are finally making trying to force good moves or just walking away.

darksoul35 03-07-2017 08:41 AM

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I just now got over losing Jimmy. I don't want to lose Cooks but If he is having a bad attitude about touches I understand. I hope we don't just get Pats #1. I would hold out for the best possible deal and pray to God we do not choke on draft day.

triman 03-07-2017 08:55 AM

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#5 and #18 for cooks and # 11 The saints could end up with Solomon Thomas and OJ Howard

K Major 03-07-2017 09:06 AM

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I will be glad when this circus is over.

At the end of the day a player's trade value is whatever the highest bidder is willing to give up.

voodooido 03-07-2017 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by triman (Post 738955)
#5 and #18 for cooks and # 11 The saints could end up with Solomon Thomas and OJ Howard

Dumb to take a TE in rd 1. They say this is the deepest/best TE draft in history. Take a CB and DE in rd 1 if this trade goes through.

jnormand 03-07-2017 01:25 PM

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Cooks and #11 for #5 and #18 sounds great. I wouldn't ***** about that at all.

rezburna 03-07-2017 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 739010)
Cooks and #11 for #5 and #18 sounds great. I wouldn't ***** about that at all.

I agree.

Sarik 03-07-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 739010)
Cooks and #11 for #5 and #18 sounds great. I wouldn't ***** about that at all.

to fill everyone in, that supposedly came from a Titans radio show in TN. I'll post the source shortly...

Sarik 03-07-2017 02:44 PM

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spkb25 03-07-2017 03:45 PM

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I read this article and this doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, well at least not the one part. I could see us taking the 18th for cook, although I'd try to get a first and second. Anyway this article says 18 for cooks straight up or cooks and our 11th for their 5th. I don't really think the second scenario makes any sense. We lose cooks and only move 6 spots for it...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ti...brandin-cooks/

rezburna 03-07-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 739037)
I read this article and this doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, well at least not the one part. I could see us taking the 18th for cook, although I'd try to get a first and second. Anyway this article says 18 for cooks straight up or cooks and our 11th for their 5th. I don't really think the second scenario makes any sense. We lose cooks and only move 6 spots for it...

Titans are reportedly the front-runners to trade for the Saints' Brandin Cooks - CBSSports.com

We, as in the fans, are probably adding more value to Cooks then the teams interested in him are. Cooks alone is worth a 1st rounder, but not a top 10 pick. Anywhere from around 15 and up is equal value for Cooks.

Cooks + Pick 11

for

Titans Pick 5 and 18

^ That would be highway robbery on the Saints part in my opinion. I pray that's the deal we get. If not, I'm cool with us sending Cooks to one of those AFC teams in the 10-20 range straight up. Either way, he has to go. He's a cancer with a contract coming up.

ScottF 03-07-2017 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 739041)
We, as in the fans, are probably adding more value to Cooks then the teams interested in him are. Cooks alone is worth a 1st rounder, but not a top 10 pick. Anywhere from around 15 and up is equal value for Cooks.

.

Cooks is a top 10 receiver. If the tables were turned I'd give up our number 11 pick for him in a heartbeat.

lee909 03-07-2017 04:21 PM

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Teams wont give up really high picks for a player that isnt a QB maybe a top notch pass rusher.
Cooks isnt even a true number 1 WR
He has 2300 yards and 17 TDs in 2 years. He isnt a Calvin Johnson,Odel Beckahm,Julio Jones or Antonio Brown putting up monster numbers

He will want 12ml a year after this year and he isnt worth a top 10 pick to most teams. Why would you give up multiple picks when you coulf go and grab Pryor,Jeffery,Marshall for nothing

K Major 03-07-2017 04:23 PM

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The value needs to be there. What the Saints are doing isn't common. Even last year when NE traded Jones, he was in the last year of his deal. We are trading a top 15 WR with 2 years left on his rookie deal. That's the absolute pinnacle value he will ever have even if he actually becomes a better WR later.

Que Sera, Sera.

spkb25 03-07-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 739041)
We, as in the fans, are probably adding more value to Cooks then the teams interested in him are. Cooks alone is worth a 1st rounder, but not a top 10 pick. Anywhere from around 15 and up is equal value for Cooks.

Cooks + Pick 11

for

Titans Pick 5 and 18

^ That would be highway robbery on the Saints part in my opinion. I pray that's the deal we get. If not, I'm cool with us sending Cooks to one of those AFC teams in the 10-20 range straight up. Either way, he has to go. He's a cancer with a contract coming up.

cooks +11 for their 5 is ridiculous. I wouldn't do that. cooks for 18 isn't terrible.

cooks+ 11 for 5 and 18, would mean we received 18 and pick 45 for cooks.(not literally, just points from the draft pick value) It isn't that crazy

rezburna 03-07-2017 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 739042)
Cooks is a top 10 receiver. If the tables were turned I'd give up our number 11 pick for him in a heartbeat.

I don't believe he's top 10. Possibly top 15.

Julio Jones
Odell Beckham, Jr.
Antonio Brown
DeAndre Hopkins
Dez Bryant
A.J. Green
Jordy Nelson
Demaryius Thomas
Mike Evans
T.Y. Hilton

That's 10 off the top of my head. From there we could debate if he's better than Jarvis Landry, Amari Cooper, or Emmanuel Sanders. I don't think he's better than Michael Thomas though. Not to mention, he's an extremely small receiver...but he's no Steve Smith.

rezburna 03-07-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 739048)
cooks +11 for their 5 is ridiculous. I wouldn't do that. cooks for 18 isn't terrible.

cooks+ 11 for 5 and 18, would mean we received 18 and pick 45 for cooks.(not literally, just points from the draft pick value) It isn't that crazy

I think it's pretty crazy if we were able to get a top 20 pick in the first round and a top 20 pick in the 2nd round for Brandin Cooks. Madden wouldn't accept that trade. Lol.

foreverfan 03-07-2017 05:08 PM

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Cooks will be incredible for another team.

Picks 5+18=23 23-11=12 round for Cooks who is a seasoned veteran with PROVEN experience.
He is worth the 12 pick in the 1st round at age 24.
Now we threaten to draft a LSU RB then bankrupt Carolina him. LOL
What do you think, they can afford to give? Sounds great to me.

Trade our A$$ off and rebuild the defense 4 picks in the first 2 rounds. LOL

http://www.incrediblethings.com/wp-c...ted-cats-2.jpg

Euphoria 03-07-2017 10:34 PM

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SO with the 5th pick in the draft our choices are:
- Jamal Adams, S, LSU
- Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU

Could we live with 11 and 18 being:
- Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan
- Haason Reddick, LB, Temple

Riddick had an insane combine.

jeanpierre 03-08-2017 01:09 AM

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Maybe the Eagles know where they stand in the hypothetical Cooks talks?


spkb25 03-08-2017 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 739051)
I think it's pretty crazy if we were able to get a top 20 pick in the first round and a top 20 pick in the 2nd round for Brandin Cooks. Madden wouldn't accept that trade. Lol.

lol, well I am not saying it is going to happen just that it isn't that crazy and who knopws we could throw a pick back, but 18 for cooks wouldn't be bad. I just wouldn't give cooks and our 11 to move 6 spots. 18 and cooks probably good deal

spkb25 03-08-2017 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 739050)
I don't believe he's top 10. Possibly top 15.

Julio Jones
Odell Beckham, Jr.
Antonio Brown
DeAndre Hopkins
Dez Bryant
A.J. Green
Jordy Nelson
Demaryius Thomas
Mike Evans
T.Y. Hilton

That's 10 off the top of my head. From there we could debate if he's better than Jarvis Landry, Amari Cooper, or Emmanuel Sanders. I don't think he's better than Michael Thomas though. Not to mention, he's an extremely small receiver...but he's no Steve Smith.

im not sure this is true, steve smith was small.

he was 7th in yards last season and that is his third year in the league. plus, he did that while another receiver on his team was at 9. he's a top 10 talent, no doubt.

and that's a respectful disagreement

voodooido 03-08-2017 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 739050)
I don't believe he's top 10. Possibly top 15.

Julio Jones
Odell Beckham, Jr.
Antonio Brown
DeAndre Hopkins
Dez Bryant
A.J. Green
Jordy Nelson
Demaryius Thomas
Mike Evans
T.Y. Hilton

That's 10 off the top of my head. From there we could debate if he's better than Jarvis Landry, Amari Cooper, or Emmanuel Sanders. I don't think he's better than Michael Thomas though. Not to mention, he's an extremely small receiver...but he's no Steve Smith.


I would put him above Evans, Bryant and Hilton on that list. Nelson stays injuried. And I would like to add cooks is not a #1 wr. Everyone on that list is a true #1. Cooks is a slot and the best in the league at it.

Seer1 03-08-2017 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 739088)
I would put him above Evans, Bryant and Hilton on that list. Nelson stays injuried. And I would like to add cooks is not a #1 wr. Everyone on that list is a true #1. Cooks is a slot and the best in the league at it.

Ummm yeah, and look at how a great team (Patriots) can destroy a defense with a good slot receiver. He can also keep his QB healthier. I wouldn't be too surprised if we don't hear from Belichick again before it's all said and done.

lee909 03-08-2017 07:54 AM

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What is this constant media push for Cooks to Eagles.

They can include Barwin in the deal. The mans just about to turn 31 at the start of the season and is on nearly 10ml a year. The talk is they may cut him too.

Why take a 2 and Barwin.
Let them cut him

AsylumGuido 03-08-2017 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 739095)
What is this constant media push for Cooks to Eagles.

They can include Barwin in the deal. The mans just about to turn 31 at the start of the season and is on nearly 10ml a year. The talk is they may cut him too.

Why take a 2 and Barwin.
Let them cut him

Read Kenny Britt is claiming he will be signing with the Eagles. They are out of the picture.

lee909 03-08-2017 08:14 AM

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Good cause i dont want Barwin unless its a cheaper option as a FA that can be backed up by a elite pass rusher in the draft

jeanpierre 03-08-2017 08:21 AM

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Either the Saints asking price is too high for the Pats or it looks like we may have a trade with the Titans...


lee909 03-08-2017 08:24 AM

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I think the Pats will come into play,but only after somebody panics when they miss a QB in FA and overpay for Jimmy G.

The thing is the Pats must be a nightmare to deal with. They tell there own players youll have to accept less to stay here because we are the pats and we will compete so we pay less

jnormand 03-08-2017 08:28 AM

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Oh I'm sure the Pats are a pain in the ass. They probably offered #32 and got mad that the Saints didn't take it. I can only imagine them as stuck up, entitled jerks lol. I always have. Lol.

nola_swammi 03-08-2017 08:48 AM

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I hope they hold out of trade til we can get at least a mid #1 pick and 5th rd pick. ABSOLUTELY NO SWAPPING PICKS AND 1ST RD

jeanpierre 03-08-2017 09:40 AM

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ChrisXVI 03-08-2017 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 739128)

You guys aren't gonna like this idea because you think we can get multiple 1st round picks for Cooks... but how about Cooks and pick 11 to the Eagles for Brandon Graham and pick 15? Yes we'd move down a few spots, but Brandon Graham is one of the best in the league.

K Major 03-08-2017 10:09 AM

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Graham can bring it off the edge & is a impact player. I could see why the trade talks have slowed down somewhat. Really good player.

lee909 03-08-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 739130)
You guys aren't gonna like this idea because you think we can get multiple 1st round picks for Cooks... but how about Cooks and pick 11 to the Eagles for Brandon Graham and pick 15? Yes we'd move down a few spots, but Brandon Graham is one of the best in the league.

And we are giving up the best slot receiver in the league.
There is no way we should be giving anything up in the trade

Graham and the Eagles 2nd
Cooks and the Saints 3rd

maybe

Beastmode 03-08-2017 11:24 AM

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Brandon Graham will be 29 next month. Cooks is 23. So they get an impact player for 5 years and we get one with maybe 2? No way, even with a 2nd.

K Major 03-08-2017 11:29 AM

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I'm having trouble embedding the twitter from John Hendrix but ...

I'm told the #Titans offered the #Saints the No. 18 overall pick for Brandin Cooks, and it was turned down, per source


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