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AsylumGuido 03-07-2018 07:34 AM

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But can he jump?

ChrisXVI 03-07-2018 08:24 AM

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Alabama Pro Day today. Looking forward to seeing a 40 time for Rashaan Evans.

K Major 03-07-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 793820)
Alabama Pro Day today. Looking forward to seeing a 40 time for Rashaan Evans.

I understand he isn't running the 40 & there is no injury concerns. Any insight here?

:confused:

AsylumGuido 03-07-2018 01:21 PM

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How important are 40 times actually? The other day on NFL Radio they were talking about the six fastest 40 times ever by NFL players and only one of those players has had any significant impact in the NFL, Chris Johnson, and his impact was fairly short lived.

ChrisXVI 03-07-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 793840)
I understand he isn't running the 40 & there is no injury concerns. Any insight here?

:confused:

You’re right... I have no idea what’s going on there. Saw him doing drills and he looked great. Very explosive. Can’t imagine it has anything to do with concern over his speed.

K Major 03-07-2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 793841)
How important are 40 times actually? The other day on NFL Radio they were talking about the six fastest 40 times ever by NFL players and only one of those players has had any significant impact in the NFL, Chris Johnson, and his impact was fairly short lived.

IDK, depends on what coaches, scouts you ask as it relates to the position. For me a linebacker must be speedy. They are covering tight ends & sometimes a WR. Same goes for cornerbacks ... often times they are running side ways & backwards.

IIRC Lattimore ran a sub 4.35 & Crawley 4.41. That's blazing so at the corner position, speed is extremely important.

Just my .02 :p.

ChrisXVI 03-07-2018 02:37 PM

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I’m not too concerned about 40 time for LB’s unless it’s 4.70+. You want to look at drills that focus on change of direction and acceleration like the 20-yard shuttle and three-cone (both of which Rashaan Evans tested in the average to outstanding range at the combine.)

ChrisXVI 03-07-2018 06:16 PM

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Pro Day March 7: Alabama/Colorado/Colorado State | Draft Analyst

Ok apparently Alabama is having a second Pro Day on 3/28 and that’s when Rashaan Evans will run a 40.

And here’s a good tidbit from the above website...

Da'Shawn Hand sat on his terrific combine numbers but looked terrific in drills today. The senior lined up at defensive end in Alabama’s three man front but most teams are projecting him as a three technique tackle. Nick Saban has been singing Hand’s praises to NFL coaches, telling them Hand was willing to put the team over himself the past two years. I’m told the New Orleans Saints are very high on Hand, who will be a top 50 pick in April.

rezburna 03-07-2018 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 793841)
How important are 40 times actually? The other day on NFL Radio they were talking about the six fastest 40 times ever by NFL players and only one of those players has had any significant impact in the NFL, Chris Johnson, and his impact was fairly short lived.

You want to at least run certain times at certain positions if you want to be effective. You can’t play cornerback in the NFL running a 4.7, but you can probably make that work at safety since you’re playing so far off of receivers most of the time. It’s not as important as some make it, but it’s also not as insignificant as others try to say.

jeanpierre 03-08-2018 12:23 PM

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jeanpierre 03-11-2018 04:55 AM

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I’m not too concerned about 40 time for LB’s unless it’s 4.70+. You want to look at drills that focus on change of direction and acceleration like the 20-yard shuttle and three-cone (both of which Rashaan Evans tested in the average to outstanding range at the combine.)

And that's really it, you're looking at his splits in the 40 and for red flags like a really slow time ...

Keep saying it - do these drills in pads and you'll see greater efficiency in the draft process...

I'm not crazy about Evans at all - sneaking suspicion he reached his peak at Bama behind a superior line ...

Looks to be another Tide Roller that looks like Tarzan in College, plays like Jane in the Pros...

And the fact he's not running the 40, like he's hiding something, that just creates more doubt, reservations...

Give me young guys with nothing to lose who aren't afraid to compete...

jeanpierre 03-11-2018 11:05 AM

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2018 NFL Draft Prospect Visits Tracker:
By Team
By Walter Cherepinsky - @walterfootball
Updated: March 10, 2018


This is a compilation of draft prospect visits sorted by prospect. The data was acquired via Charlie Campbell (@draftcampbell) and other media sources.

SR - Senior Bowl meeting.
EW - East-West Shrine meeting.
COM - Combine meeting.
INT - Interested.
VINT - Very Interested.
PRO - Pro Day or campus meeting/workout.
LOC - Local visit. Prospect making a local visit.
PRI - Private visit. Prospect making an official 30 visit.
WOR - Private Workout. Members of an organization working out a player in private.
STM - Some Type of Meeting.
% - indicates more than one meeting at an event.
^ - has met with team at more than one event.
# - indicates meeting set up outside of the 2018 Senior Bowl or the 2018 East-West Shrine Game

http://walterfootball.com/jscss/Imag...os/TRN/NOS.gifNew Orleans Saints
Brian Allen, C, Michigan State (EW)
Marcus Allen, S, Penn State (SR)
Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma (COM)
Nick Bawden, FB, San Diego State (SR)
Ja'Whaun Bentley, ILB, Purdue (SR)
Jeremiah Briscoe, QB, Sam Houston State (EW)
Tony Brown, CB, Alabama (PRO):saintsfan:
Lorenzo Carter, 3-4OLB/OLB, Georgia (COM)
Joseph Davidson, P, Bowling Green (EW)
Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (SR)
Tre Flowers, S, Oklahoma State (EW)
Poona Ford^, DT, Texas (SR, EW)
Robert Foster, WR, Alabama (PRI)
Daurice Fountain, WR, Northern Iowa (EW)
Da'Shawn Hand, DE, Alabama (SR)
Godwin Igwebuike, S, Northwestern (EW)
Taron Johnson, CB, Weber State (SR)
Justin Lawler, DE/3-4OLB, SMU (EW)
Jordan Martin, S, Syracuse (EW)
Baker Mayfield^, QB, Oklahoma (SR, WOR, COM):saintsfan:
Skyler Phillips, G, Idaho State (SR):saintsfan:
Tegray Scales, OLB/ILB, Indiana (EW)
Deadrin Senat, DT/NT, South Florida (EW)
Greg Senat, OT, Wagner (EW)
Durham Smythe, TE, Notre Dame (SR)
Greg Stroman, CB, Virginia Tech (EW)
Chad Thomas, DE/3-4OLB, Miami (EW)
Akrum Wadley, RB, Iowa (SR%)
Justin Watson, WR, Pennsylvania (EW)
Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky (SR)
Ethan Wolf, TE, Tennessee (EW)


Read more: 2018 NFL Draft Prospect Visits Tracked by Team

jeanpierre 03-11-2018 04:33 PM

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ChrisXVI 03-11-2018 05:03 PM

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I can’t wait until the first big wave of free agency because mock drafts are useless until then. We always address our biggest needs in free agency so I’m curious how things change for us as it relates to the draft.

Sarik 03-12-2018 12:49 AM

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usually dont post during the season but the offseason is when i get back to checking threads more frequently. not sure who the majority of b&g is big on but i’d like to hear peoples top 5. I’m pretty sure Taven Bryan is one of my draft crushes this year. so much talent and potential.

jeanpierre 03-12-2018 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 794247)
I can’t wait until the first big wave of free agency because mock drafts are useless until then. We always address our biggest needs in free agency so I’m curious how things change for us as it relates to the draft.

Saints are one of the better teams at using Free Agency to mask their draft intentions...

jeanpierre 03-13-2018 03:41 PM

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ChrisXVI 03-13-2018 03:46 PM

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Why in the world would they have soured on Peat? He’s our starting left guard AND left tackle lol. If anything it tells me they’re thinking about permanently moving Peat to LT.

CheramieIII 03-13-2018 03:48 PM

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No but I think we're keeping options open. Peat will even be better this year. Experience the same team on the O line is very important. I think we might replace Zach and be done with it.

lee909 03-13-2018 03:52 PM

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Probably expecting to loose Kelemete so will be short. Smd if Armstead goes down again i could see them cutting him to save 7ml and moving Peat back to LT

ChrisXVI 03-15-2018 05:00 PM

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So I guess it’s pretty clear that we’re going to go DE or a receiving threat highly in the draft.

jeanpierre 03-15-2018 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 795456)
So I guess it’s pretty clear that we’re going to go DE or a receiving threat highly in the draft.

Or Offensive Line, Or Defensive Tackle, Or Linebacker, Or Tight End...

This team is as strong, in fact stronger, than 2009 right now...

jeanpierre 03-17-2018 11:31 AM

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J-E-T-S...Wow, they just Herschel Walkered The Colts back into contention!



jeanpierre 03-19-2018 09:21 AM

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Interesting Stat - and it's why I don't believe in spending a first round pick on a RB - most unpredictable, always a deep group of young runners...


jeanpierre 03-19-2018 03:03 PM

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jeanpierre 03-20-2018 12:17 PM

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ChrisXVI 03-21-2018 03:03 PM

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According to #Saints Insider @SeanFazendeFOX8, team will hold private meeting with S. Carolina star tight end Hayden Hurst who could be available with the 27th pick in the #NFLDraft2018, sources say.
2:55 PM · Mar 21, 2018

ChrisXVI 03-21-2018 06:18 PM

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WR Cedrick Wilson (Boise State) reminds me so much of Michael Thomas coming out of Ohio State. His measurables, NFL bloodline, route running and reputation for being a very studious hard-worker are so similar to Can’t Guard Mike.

I think he may be the ultimate sleeper WR of this draft and I want him with our 3rd round pick.

jeanpierre 03-22-2018 11:06 AM

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No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 91 (R3, 27) QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 219 lbs.

No. 127 (R4, 27) OG Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 311 lbs.

No. 147 (R5, 11) WR Dylan Cantrell, Texas Tech; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 212 lbs.

No. 164 (R5, 27) TE Ryan Izzo, Florida St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 245 lbs.

No. 189 (R6, 15) RT Nick Gates, Nebraska; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 201 (R6, 27) CB Michael Joseph, Dubuque; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 189 lbs.

No. 245 (R7, 27) SS Troy Apke, Penn State; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 198 lbs.

K Major 03-22-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 796308)
No. 91 (R3, 27) QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 219 lbs.

Round 3 is typically where you find the "meat and potatoes" players of the draft. I'd like to see a player selected in Rd3 who will play right away (see Kamara & pre injury to Anzalaone). Kyle would hold a clip board for what 2,3 years possibly?


I tend to like Mike White (Western KY) better & he can be had in later rounds.

K Major 03-22-2018 02:36 PM

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Maurice Hurst gets clearance to play football – ProFootballTalk

jeanpierre 03-22-2018 03:18 PM

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jeanpierre 03-22-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 796308)
No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 91 (R3, 27) QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 219 lbs.

No. 127 (R4, 27) OG Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 311 lbs.

No. 147 (R5, 11) WR Dylan Cantrell, Texas Tech; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 212 lbs.

No. 164 (R5, 27) TE Ryan Izzo, Florida St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 245 lbs.

No. 189 (R6, 15) RT Nick Gates, Nebraska; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 201 (R6, 27) CB Michael Joseph, Dubuque; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 189 lbs.

No. 245 (R7, 27) SS Troy Apke, Penn State; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 198 lbs.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 796310)
Round 3 is typically where you find the "meat and potatoes" players of the draft. I'd like to see a player selected in Rd3 who will play right away (see Kamara & pre injury to Anzalaone). Kyle would hold a clip board for what 2,3 years possibly?


I tend to like Mike White (Western KY) better & he can be had in later rounds.

Totally agree that Day 1 and Day 2 players should play right away and the Truth is I'm torn between two players in the third round:

No. 91 (R3, 27) RT Alex Cappa, Humboldt St.; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 309 lbs.

No. 91 (R3, 27) LB Josey Jewell, Iowa; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 236 lbs.

But the Saints nearly traded up in the first round last year for a quarterback and I'm thinking they take one again...

Lauletta or Falk are the best value Quarterbacks to be had after Mayfield, Allen and Rosen come off the board...

Lauletta I believe has a high enough ceiling that he could start in this league; same as Falk...

I'd rather sign a FA QB to be a backup than spend a pick on one which I believe is the West Ky QB's ceiling...

K Major 03-22-2018 03:35 PM

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This should be an interesting draft...

It's quite possible that the first 4 or 5 selections will all be QB's. Cleveland has picks #1, #4, then pick #33 (1st pick in Rd2). That's GOLDEN. Surely the Browns can't mess that up ... or can they??

ChrisXVI 03-22-2018 04:31 PM

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It feels crazy to say, but I think we’re actually all set defensively in terms of our starters. I have us addressing receiving weapons with our first two picks.

R1 P27 TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State

It’s kind of difficult to pick one of the TE’s between Goedert, Gesicki and Hurst but there is some logic to this choice. With our newfound commitment to the run game, I think we need a well-rounded TE who contributes as a blocker. That rules out Gesicki. Then it’s a matter of what concerns you more... Hurst’s age or Goedert’s lower level of competition? I’ll take Goedert.

R3 P27 WR Cedrick Wilson, Boise State

He’s not getting any hype at all and I’m not sure why. Reminds me a lot of Michael Thomas- just a little lighter and a little less strong. NFL bloodline, good route runner, studious hard worker, everything we could ask for. He and Thomas can both operate as X receivers and in the slot so this pick gives us some versatility.

R4 P27 OLB Genard Avery, Memphis

Give this guy a year of development and he could potentially start at SLB or WLB. His measurables are insane:

40 YARD DASH: 4.59 SEC
BENCH PRESS: 26 REPS
VERTICAL JUMP: 36.0 INCH
BROAD JUMP: 124.0 INCH
3 CONE DRILL: 6.90 SEC
20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.36 SEC

R5 P10 DE Kylie Fitts, Utah

Great addition to our depth at the position. Another athletic freak. Currently spending time training with former teammate Marcus Williams. You can bet Payton has gotten the inside scoop and likes what he’s heard.

R5 P27 SS Siran Neal, Jacksonville State

Now here’s a guy who plays with a chip on his shoulder. Could compete for snaps as a dime CB and maybe in a year compete for a role in our 3 safety sets.

I’m going to skip the 6th and 7th rounds for now because this is tedious typing on my phone lol.

ChrisXVI 03-22-2018 04:51 PM

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In what is a surprise to absolutely no-one, DraftAnalyst.com reports that the Saints were all over Ohio State’s Pro Day.

http://draftanalyst.com/pro-day-–-ohio-state

We met with DE Jalyn Holmes, LB Jerome Baker and S Damon Webb.

K Major 03-22-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 796339)
It feels crazy to say, but I think we’re actually all set defensively in terms of our starters. I have us addressing receiving weapons with our first two picks.

R1 P27 TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State

It’s kind of difficult to pick one of the TE’s between Goedert, Gesicki and Hurst but there is some logic to this choice. With our newfound commitment to the run game, I think we need a well-rounded TE who contributes as a blocker. That rules out Gesicki. Then it’s a matter of what concerns you more... Hurst’s age or Goedert’s lower level of competition? I’ll take Goedert.

I think I'd take a flyer on a TE in the 3rd vs the 1st. I'm still high on Rashaan Evans (LB) @ #27.

ChrisXVI 03-22-2018 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 796344)
I think I'd take a flyer on a TE in the 3rd vs the 1st. I'm still high on Rashaan Evans (LB) @ #27.

I still like Evans too. It all depends on how much faith Payton and Dennis Allen have in Alex Anzalone. I think Demario Davis and AJ Klein are locked in at Mike and Sam... I think Anzalone will get every chance to be the Will. If not then Evans would be a good fit there.

MarchingOn 03-22-2018 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 796344)
I think I'd take a flyer on a TE in the 3rd vs the 1st. I'm still high on Rashaan Evans (LB) @ #27.

Liking a TE in the 3rd. Does anyone think Gesicki will still be there if we trade up a little in the 3rd?

nola_swammi 03-23-2018 03:46 AM

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https://www.thenewsstar.com/story/sp...day/449800002/


Montreal Meander Strong Safety

The Texas transfer measured in at 6-foot-2, weighed 215 pounds with nearly a 75-inch wingspan. He benched 225 pounds 15 times, recorded a 10-foot, 4-inch broad jump and a 37-inch vertical.

But most impressively, Meander blazed the stop watches for a 4.44 40, the quickest of any of the other former Grambling football player

Meander met with the Jacksonville Jaguars, Cleveland Browns and the New Orleans Saints the night before Pro Day, and he was scheduled to meet with the Indianapolis Colts Thursday night.


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