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lee909 03-13-2019 05:19 PM
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frydaddy 03-13-2019 05:31 PM
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Getsom Taysom is a quality backup and if he gets 2 more years under Brees he will be killer and won't we get a draft pick out of the deal if Bridgewater signs with the Dolphins?
I really don't see it and I don't think Payton does either, despite what he's said publicly. Taysom is a great guy and a really good athlete, but he is not and almost certainly never will be a starting caliber QB. I know a few folks here think that he just needs time and experience, but I don't believe it's that simple. If it were then the list of failed QB's wouldn't be so long. So many were given years as starters and never developed. And those guys didn't take years off to do missionary work and then come back to the sport later in life. I love Taysom and I love that he has so many roles on this team, but starting QB will never be one of them. Payton knows this, and he knows that Teddy is capable of taking over this team and keeping us relevant for years to come. I'd rather not see us fall back into QB purgatory for...possibly decades, and if we let Teddy go then we're staring it in the face in the very near future.

st thomas 03-13-2019 06:07 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 840371)


He won’t get hurt on the side line

ChrisXVI 03-13-2019 06:21 PM
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Jared Cook coming in for a visit tomorrow according to Rapoport.

There we go boys... Things are picking up.

brees84 03-13-2019 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 840379)
Jared Cook coming in for a visit tomorrow according to Rapoport.

There we go boys... Things are picking up.
Probably only TE I wanted us to sign.

Lord_Saint83 03-13-2019 06:51 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 840379)
Jared Cook coming in for a visit tomorrow according to Rapoport.

There we go boys... Things are picking up.


Dont let him leave without a contract

ChrisXVI 03-13-2019 07:42 PM
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Alright so we have Jared Cook, Ziggy Ansah and Mario Edwards coming in for visits. I didn’t know Mario Edwards was from Gautier, MS. He’d probably like to come back home.

rezburna 03-13-2019 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 840392)
https://twitter.com/nfltrade_rumors/...89640039919621

Alright so we have Jared Cook, Ziggy Ansah and Mario Edwards coming in for visits. I didn’t know Mario Edwards was from Gautier, MS. He’d probably like to come back home.
Yep. I lived in Gautier for about 8 years. His dad is from here and played for the Cowboys.

rezburna 03-13-2019 09:33 PM
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Eric Berry is available...and I want him here.

jeanpierre 03-13-2019 09:43 PM
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jeanpierre 03-13-2019 09:43 PM
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jeanpierre 03-13-2019 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 840398)
Eric Berry is available...and I want him here.
So you move Mr. Marcus to SS? How much are we gonna have to spend on Berry? Not sure that's viable...

Don't be surprised if Coleman is right back here at a cheaper number...

Saints Front Office are trusting the PFF-type analytics and believe Vonn Bell's is trending up, despite very shaky, inconsistent pass coverage...

jeanpierre 03-13-2019 10:29 PM
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Wonderful, another old, broke-down Tight End who can't run, play more than fifteen percent of the snaps a game, and will fade by the fourth quarter of the regular season...

jeanpierre 03-13-2019 10:30 PM
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It's like trying to pull a stubborn tooth when I was a kid, sign it already so the Tweets will stop...

rezburna 03-13-2019 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 840408)
So you move Mr. Marcus to SS? How much are we gonna have to spend on Berry? Not sure that's viable...

Don't be surprised if Coleman is right back here at a cheaper number...

Saints Front Office are trusting the PFF-type analytics and believe Vonn Bell's is trending up, despite very shaky, inconsistent pass coverage...
I’d move Mr. Marcus to the bench for Eric Berry. I saw an improvement from Bell...I really did...but I feel like we could definitely upgrade both spots.

jeanpierre 03-13-2019 10:37 PM
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jeanpierre 03-13-2019 10:38 PM
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rezburna 03-13-2019 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 840411)
Wonderful, another old, broke-down Tight End who can't run, play more than fifteen percent of the snaps a game, and will fade by the fourth quarter of the regular season...

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1105972130578075648
He had a career year last year. He looked really good in the games I saw him in. I think it would be a solid pick up for us. I don’t really know what other options we have.

jeanpierre 03-13-2019 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 840413)
I’d move Mr. Marcus to the bench for Eric Berry. I saw an improvement from Bell...I really did...but I feel like we could definitely upgrade both spots.
So in the case of PFF Graders, you'd say they got it wrong in 2018 when Mr. Marcus gets 70.28 grade on the year and Berry got a 62.4?

Don't mis-read me, I'm not saying PFF is an absolute (I often take them to task via Twitter to justify their grade); I've always liked Berry and his game (when healthy), but at age 29???

And while Mr. Marcus showed some regression vs his outstanding rookie season where he was ranked as a Top 3 safety - I'd stay with the younger Mr. Marcus and look at coaching, scheme of Dennis Allen...

Personally I'd love'd to have locked up the secondary with a big physical Strong Safety who could mirror TEs or WR-X in the red zone, or something fierce like a Honey Badger...

With today's cap and the Saints always playing right up against it, there's just no room to go and make any big splashes - we'll have to temper our expectations...

jeanpierre 03-13-2019 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 840416)
He had a career year last year. He looked really good in the games I saw him in. I think it would be a solid pick up for us. I don’t really know what other options we have.
Yeah, but Rez, Who did Carr have to throw to last season? Crabtree was sent packing and Coop sulked till he got traded to Dallas?

WhiteBread Kittle in San Fran caught more TD passes and did more damage, and with Garoppolo out, and Cook could only get 6 ReTDs in Oakland?

Gettin' old sucks, but when you hit that 3-0, it's a b*tch! Even Brees sittin' in the pocket having watched film five days a week with your arse in the seat for 5am is gettin limited...

rezburna 03-13-2019 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 840417)
So in the case of PFF Graders, you'd say they got it wrong in 2018 when Mr. Marcus gets 70.28 grade on the year and Berry got a 62.4?

Don't mis-read me, I'm not saying PFF is an absolute (I often take them to task via Twitter to justify their grade); I've always liked Berry and his game (when healthy), but at age 29???

And while Mr. Marcus showed some regression vs his outstanding rookie season where he was ranked as a Top 3 safety - I'd stay with the younger Mr. Marcus and look at coaching, scheme of Dennis Allen...

Personally I'd love'd to have locked up the secondary with a big physical Strong Safety who could mirror TEs or WR-X in the red zone, or something fierce like a Honey Badger...

With today's cap and the Saints always playing right up against it, there's just no room to go and make any big splashes - we'll have to temper our expectations...
I think those PFF grades are pretty accurate for both players. Eric Berry looked like a guy who was trying to get back into football shape. I think that rust will be gone this upcoming season. Elite safeties like him play at a high level for a long time. I agree though, the cap definitely restricts us. We have to shop in the bargain bin. Who knows though, Berry might come cheaper than we think.

jeanpierre 03-13-2019 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 840419)
Who knows though, Berry might come cheaper than we think.
Well, that's the thing though - Tight Ends and Safeties were suppose to be cheap this year because of a flooded FA market and draft depth...

Then Baltimore went and paid a third-string TE $6mil/annum and you got teams like the Raiders and Titans blowing the safety market out of the water...

Mickster/Payton calculus was like everyone else and still have realized you gotta keep that draft capital for a backup plan...

Eventually the undrafted free agency gemstone mine is gonna run outta gems...

jeanpierre 03-13-2019 11:09 PM
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D*mn, San Fran letting Kwon hold some guaranteed dollars...

jeanpierre 03-13-2019 11:27 PM
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jeanpierre 03-14-2019 01:06 AM
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jeanpierre 03-14-2019 10:01 AM
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K Major 03-14-2019 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 840418)
Yeah, but Rez, Who did Carr have to throw to last season? Crabtree was sent packing and Coop sulked till he got traded to Dallas?
JP,

Saints are running out of options at TE. Arnold, Hill's ... not good enough right now. Jared is solid and can make plays. I can see why the Saints have him in for a visit.

If the price is right, he's our guy.

jeanpierre 03-14-2019 02:16 PM
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Like I said, Washington is still trying to reconcile the senseless loss of Sean Taylor...

...he was that big of a deal to the Redskins fans...

jeanpierre 03-14-2019 02:21 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 840488)
JP,

Saints are running out of options at TE. Arnold, Hill's ... not good enough right now. Jared is solid and can make plays. I can see why the Saints have him in for a visit.

If the price is right, he's our guy.
Major, I understand Brother, but Cook is not going to be any better than we already have - he was the only target in the Raiders Passing Game the entire season last year and only produced 6 ReTD's...

Here's the thing, Taylor Stallworth is the only, THE ONLY, Defensive Tackle, not just DT3, but all DTs, that'll likely be available the first four weeks of the season...

Short of trades and hitting on every draft pick, we've got to shore the line up first are we're gonna get Cam burnt up using him inside or continuing to play him maximum snaps...

brees84 03-14-2019 02:26 PM
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This guy is really good player. Good signing. Didn't know he was FA.

jeanpierre 03-14-2019 02:29 PM
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This really helps on the defensive interior, worried though that Belichick let him geaux...

FinSaint 03-14-2019 02:30 PM
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That wouldn't be smart... fake news?!

K Major 03-14-2019 02:35 PM
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Nice.

Brown was solid in NE. Very good against the run & eats up space on double teams. 1st round pedigree and fills a position of need on the D line.

Welcome to New Orleans Malcom.

ChrisXVI 03-14-2019 02:36 PM
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 840496)
This really helps on the defensive interior, worried though that Belichick let him geaux...

https://twitter.com/SeanFazendeFOX8/...74537467981825
That’s pretty nice! Guess it means Tyeler Davison is moving on though.

jeanpierre 03-14-2019 02:36 PM
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Beasley only got $10.7mil guaranteed of the $20mil he sought...

It breaks down as - $6mil signing bonus; Base Salaries: 2019 - $2.2mil, 2020 - $4.4mil, 2021 - $4.7mil, 2021 - $4.9mil; Roster bonuses - 2019 - $2.5mil, 2020 though 2020 - $500K...

This trend may help should we be really seeking Golden Tate - who's preference is to play indoors on turf where he's at his best...

jeanpierre 03-14-2019 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 840500)
That’s pretty nice! Guess it means Tyeler Davison is moving on though.
Possibly, but not necessarily - it all depends on what Tyeler's trying to get paid...

While Malcolm actually played next to the Right Defensive End, they used a slightly different gap assignment, so we may see something like that till we have the Big "O" and Rankins back...

FinSaint 03-14-2019 02:46 PM
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Idk guys, Brown has some pretty mediocre numbers during his seasons with the Pats, and while he seems to be solid against the run - he doesn't seem to be able push the pocket.

jeanpierre 03-14-2019 03:00 PM
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More analysis from John Sigler on the Malcolm Brown signing...

One of the things that I do like about this signing is his SuperBowl experience...

frydaddy 03-14-2019 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 840504)
Idk guys, Brown has some pretty mediocre numbers during his seasons with the Pats, and while he seems to be solid against the run - he doesn't seem to be able push the pocket.
In fairness, there aren't many DT's who can consistently push the pocket. Generally speaking, you're mainly looking for them to be good run stuffers and capable of eating up blockers to free up the guys around them. I like the signing personally. I kinda hoped we'd draft him when he came out. Seems like a good price too.

brees84 03-14-2019 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 840506)
In fairness, there aren't many DT's who can consistently push the pocket. Generally speaking, you're mainly looking for them to be good run stuffers and capable of eating up blockers to free up the guys around them. I like the signing personally. I kinda hoped we'd draft him when he came out. Seems like a good price too.
True. Not every DT is Aaron Donald.


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