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AsylumGuido 04-26-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 843290)
Who knows, we signed Easton to play centre and then go ahead and draft one anyway.

Classic Payton.

Who says we didn't sign Easton to play guard?

dizzle88 04-26-2019 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 843291)
Now THAT’s a darn good pick! Nick Easton stinks... Thank goodness we won’t rely on him.

So why sign him if it's just gonna be dead money?

brees84 04-26-2019 07:29 PM

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Like the pick. Never thought Easton is solid replacement for Unger.

Lord_Saint83 04-26-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 843290)
Who knows, we signed Easton to play centre and then go ahead and draft one anyway.

Classic Payton.



Yea, i was certain a wr or te

dizzle88 04-26-2019 07:30 PM

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Guess they are content with Keith Kirkwood and Tre'Quan not getting open.

rezburna 04-26-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 843297)
Guess they are content with Keith Kirkwood and Tre'Quan not getting open.

Gotta be.

ChrisXVI 04-26-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 843294)
So why sign him if it's just gonna be dead money?

We panicked.

brees84 04-26-2019 07:31 PM

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So basically Easton is backup interior lineman with not much dead money.

dizzle88 04-26-2019 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 843299)
We panicked.

Once again, classic Payton...

ChrisXVI 04-26-2019 07:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 843297)
Guess they are content with Keith Kirkwood and Tre'Quan not getting open.

You think it would be smart to rely on a rookie WR again this season to be the answer?

AsylumGuido 04-26-2019 07:32 PM

Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 843302)
Once again, classic Payton...

They know FAR, FAR, FAR more than you or I know about their roster.

Just sayin', diz.

dizzle88 04-26-2019 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 843303)
You think it would be smart to rely on a rookie WR again this season to be the answer?

It would be better to take the chance on a rookie receiver that can get open, rather than Kirkwood or Tre'Quan who proved they couldn't beat coverage.

GeauxForMore 04-26-2019 07:33 PM

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I'm confused with the pick. I mean he is a good player and he will start, but why pay someone 6 mill to ride the bench. If Easton doesnt where does he play. Who does he replace on the oline? Are we trading a player now? I for sure though it was a WR.

jnormand 04-26-2019 07:33 PM

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Not a sexy pic, but the FO has done well lately picking offensive lineman. I'll trust them. Plus, like a few have said, Easton wasn't that great anyway.

dizzle88 04-26-2019 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 843304)
They know FAR, FAR, FAR more than you or I know about their roster.

Just sayin', diz.

No doubt, not arguing at all - but he thought Stanley Jean Baptiste was the answer at CB, so....

Lord_Saint83 04-26-2019 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 843303)
You think it would be smart to rely on a rookie WR again this season to be the answer?

Thomas panned out his rookie year. Some have rooks have the tools

Danno 04-26-2019 07:33 PM

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Easton was the classic adequate player at a need. Now we have a young stud to develop with Easton being able to play all 3 interior positions. What’s not to like? It’s a perfect pick

ChrisXVI 04-26-2019 07:33 PM

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Who says we won’t end up trading Peat and playing Easton at LG?

brees84 04-26-2019 07:34 PM

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Easton has 4mil GTD. After 2019 season 1,5mil dead cap.

AsylumGuido 04-26-2019 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxForMore (Post 843306)
I'm confused with the pick. I mean he is a good player and he will start, but why pay someone 6 mill to ride the bench. If Easton doesnt where does he play. Who does he replace on the oline? Are we trading a player now? I for sure though it was a WR.

Where did you get the idea that Easton was $6M?

CheramieIII 04-26-2019 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 843310)
Easton was the classic adequate player at a need. Now we have a young stud to develop with Easton being able to play all 3 interior positions. What’s not to like? It’s a perfect pick

I agree Danno. Kinda like the pick to ensure we have a good line with adequate backups this year.

GeauxForMore 04-26-2019 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 843311)
Who says we won’t end up trading Peat and playing Easton at LG?

This right here or they are prepearing for Peat to walk next year and have the oline set for 2020.....

lee909 04-26-2019 07:36 PM

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Easton contract was set up to get out of next year. At worst Easton offers depth this year and get released next year
It's steep price 2x2nd rounder and a fifth.

brees84 04-26-2019 07:36 PM

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This kid will start.

lee909 04-26-2019 07:38 PM

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Unger leaving left the team in the lurch a bit. You don't wait and hope you can draft a replacement. Get one in and if a players there draft them too especially its O-Line depth.

Only thing I don't like is again paying 2/3 picks for a player

ChrisXVI 04-26-2019 07:39 PM

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For those who like to keep track of players we meet with prior to the draft...There was no reported meetings between the Saints and McCoy.

lee909 04-26-2019 07:43 PM

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Player Bio
McCoy was not highly recruited despite earning second-team all-state honors at Lufkin High School in Texas. Aggies coaches saw enough to give him a scholarship, however, and he worked himself into a three-year starter. He redshirted in 2015 before earning the starting center spot for all 13 contests in 2016. McCoy started all 13 games for A&M in 2017, as well, 11 at center and two at guard. He was a team captain in 2018, again starting all 13 games in the middle of the offensive line called the "Maroon Goons."


Analysis
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst

Draft Projection
Round 2

NFL Comparison
Corey Linsley

Overview
Teams typically hunt for centers with the traits to withstand power or athleticism depending on their divisional competition. McCoy comes gift-wrapped in a thick, strong frame and proved he could hold up to both power (Dexter Lawrence) and athleticism (Quinnen Williams). He has some limitations in space, but he possesses more than enough body control and agility to compete on work-ups and cut-off blocks. With his ability match against base and sub-packages, McCoy could carry Day 2 draft value as a future starter.


Strengths
Good girth in rear and legs with well-built arms
Started all three-seasons at Texas A&M
Solid performances against talented interior defenders from Clemson and Alabama
Unlocks and snaps hips into angle blocks to seal gap
Body control to fit and stick to A-gap rushers
Generates some movement
Loose hips to bump and climb to tough angles
Good effort to maintain leverage/positioning on lateral blocks
Possesses pop in well-timed punch
Re-sets hands with "boxing" ability in pass sets
Plays with good stickiness in pass mirror
Low center of gravity with strong rush anchor
Meets and absorbs upfield charge with plus contact balance


Weaknesses
Lack of length limits ability to sustain move blocks
Base gets too wide in some pass sets
Plays with some forward lean into pass mirror
A little slow with head swivel when scanning in pass pro tection

Has to stay patient rather than lunge at target
Inside arm wraps around second-level linebackers
Average athleticism in space
Below-average pull quickness

ChrisXVI 04-26-2019 07:43 PM

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ChrisXVI 04-26-2019 07:48 PM

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From Walter Football:

New Orleans Saints: Erik McCoy, C/G, Texas A&M A+ Grade
This is one of the best picks of the draft thus far. There was a team in the teens that was considering Erik McCoy, so to have him drop all the way to No. 48 is a major steal. The Saints needed to replace Max Unger, who retired so unexpectedly. McCoy should fill in very well. The Saints surrendered a 2020 second-round pick to select McCoy, which is not ideal, but they had to do it because McCoy was not dropping to them at the end of this round.

lee909 04-26-2019 07:49 PM

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Gil Brandt

@Gil_Brandt
The Saints getting Erik McCoy there is one of the best value picks of the draft so far. He started every game he was available to play at A&M. Can play guard and center equally well. 4.89 40 at the combine w/ 29 lifts

Utah_Saint 04-26-2019 07:49 PM

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I like the pick.

There wasn't much of a chance that Easton was the long term solution at center, McCoy could be. Easton is there to start the first couple games if this guy isn't ready game 1.

That said, we're gonna miss that 2nd round pick next year.

lee909 04-26-2019 07:49 PM

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Mike Triplett

@MikeTriplett
ESPN draft analysts Mel Kiper and Todd McShay both just said they're surprised Saints C Erik McCoy fell as far as he did. Saints obviously felt the same way. McShay and analyst Louis Riddick described him as a "plug-and-play starter

K Major 04-26-2019 07:50 PM

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Saw my share of Aggie football ... Erik is the real deal in the middle.

First round talent that fell to the second round. We could potentially have a Ryan Ramz type of impact player right out of the gate for 2019.

Not a sexy pick but games are won/lost in the trenches at this level.

Welcome to New Orleans Mr. Mckoy :bng: !

Danno 04-26-2019 07:51 PM

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Also keep in mind armstead is frequently injured. Easton allows us to slide peat outside. Or maybe he’s just the best player on our board at a position of need too.

jeanpierre 04-26-2019 08:03 PM

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What did I miss?!?


saintfan 04-26-2019 08:04 PM

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O-Line is never sexy but it builds championships. From what I've read people were surprised this guy fell this far? I'm down with it.

ChrisXVI 04-26-2019 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 843330)
O-Line is never sexy but it builds championships. From what I've read people were surprised this guy fell this far? I'm down with it.

People always get mad about taking O-Linemen instead of average skill position players.

ChrisXVI 04-26-2019 08:11 PM

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DK Metcalf STILL sitting out there and it’s almost the 3rd round.

dizzle88 04-26-2019 08:12 PM

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From my perspective, O line wasn't an issue in the playoffs, players not getting open was the issue. Teams took Kamara and Thomas out of the game, then we had scrubs pretending to play football.

Utah_Saint 04-26-2019 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 843333)
From my perspective, O line wasn't an issue in the playoffs, players not getting open was the issue. Teams took Kamara and Thomas out of the game, then we had scrubs pretending to play football.

But we had Unger in the playoffs.


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