Saints Draft Days Official Thread

jeanpierre · 04-25-2020, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Athletically, Graham was faster (4.5 sec vs 4.8 sec), had longer arms, reach (35 in v 32 in), and larger hands (10.625 in vs 9.2 in) than Dayton Flyer Adam Trautman...

Make no mistake - physically, Trautman is a beast in his own right with maybe Notre Dame's Cole Kmet and Stanford's Colby Parkinson only notable talent being bigger...

Personally, in today's NFL, wouldn't want TE's that aren't at least 6' 5" with good arm length so they can post-up in the Red Zone are on 3rd downs...

But I guess what bothers me is that Belichick (or was it his dog Nike?) took two (2) TEs before Trautman; and then Payton spent four picks on Trautman...

And if Logan Wilson was so prized as is suggested, why didn't we spend four picks to get Wilson who'd be a better fit in our defense as a true MIKE?

Now, as said earlier, in an exchange with Chris, I like Baun and most players from the Wisconsin program (especially offensive line), but Baun is a 3-4 JACK, not a 4-3 SAM...

And from what I saw watching Wisconsin (also Iowa games) Baun was exposed in coverage when matched up against obvious NFL talent...

Maybe consider we're gonna start playing some 3-4 based on matchups; Baun will allow us to do that with some combination of Davis-Alonso-Anzalone-Baun/Hendrickson?

Only problem with that theory is D.A., who's cognitive ability seems limited to running his 4-3 system, and is unable/unwilling to build with what he's given...

Back to Trautman - this is where I broke with many models thought he should have been drafted considering the level of his competition where he was rarely, if ever, challenged...

But four (4) picks? Just feel Ireland could have found younger players that would have allowed us to get that roster age mean lower and some valuable cap relief, wiggle room...

No, not many rookies are gonna make this roster, but I personally believe that's something the team needs to fight - complacency - when this team needs a fire lit under its arse...

Hate quoting myself, but wanted to highlight something in what I posted, and just to show that I'm open-minded...

Baun may allow us to alter our defense week to week (or playoff to playoff game) based on match-ups - the only problem with that theory is the cognitive abilities of Dennis Allen...

vpheughan · 04-25-2020, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Hate quoting myself, but wanted to highlight something in what I posted, and just to show that I'm open-minded...

Baun may allow us to alter our defense week to week (or playoff to playoff game) based on match-ups - the only problem with that theory is the cognitive abilities of Dennis Allen...

Hate quoting myself

AHHHH! JP BITC*IN BOUT DRAFT PICKS!! LEADING THE "COULDA,WOULDA SHOULDA AND WHAT IF" CHANT!!!

LIKE THE FINAL SCENE IN THE "MUSIC MAN" "PROFESSOR HAROLD "JP" HILL" LEADING THE B&G BAND IN A ROUSING CHORUS OF "76 DRAFT CHOICES"

"ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL"................

04-25-2020, 08:52 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by jeanpierre Athletically, Graham was faster (4.5 sec vs 4.8 sec), had longer arms, reach (35 in v 32 in), and larger hands (10.625 in vs 9.2 in) than Dayton Flyer Adam Trautman... Make no mistake - physically, Trautman is a beast in his own right with maybe Notre Dame's Cole Kmet and Stanford's Colby Parkinson only notable talent being bigger... Personally, in today's NFL, wouldn't want TE's that aren't at least 6' 5" with good arm length so they can post-up in the Red Zone are on 3rd downs... But I guess what bothers me is that Belichick (or was it his dog Nike?) took two (2) TEs before Trautman; and then Payton spent four picks on Trautman... And if Logan Wilson was so prized as is suggested, why didn't we spend four picks to get Wilson who'd be a better fit in our defense as a true MIKE? Now, as said earlier, in an exchange with Chris, I like Baun and most players from the Wisconsin program (especially offensive line), but Baun is a 3-4 JACK, not a 4-3 SAM... And from what I saw watching Wisconsin (also Iowa games) Baun was exposed in coverage when matched up against obvious NFL talent... Maybe consider we're gonna start playing some 3-4 based on matchups; Baun will allow us to do that with some combination of Davis-Alonso-Anzalone-Baun/Hendrickson? Only problem with that theory is D.A., who's cognitive ability seems limited to running his 4-3 system, and is unable/unwilling to build with what he's given... Back to Trautman - this is where I broke with many models thought he should have been drafted considering the level of his competition where he was rarely, if ever, challenged... But four (4) picks? Just feel Ireland could have found younger players that would have allowed us to get that roster age mean lower and some valuable cap relief, wiggle room... No, not many rookies are gonna make this roster, but I personally believe that's something the team needs to fight - complacency - when this team needs a fire lit under its arse... Hate quoting myself, but wanted to highlight something in what I posted, and just to show that I'm open-minded... Baun may allow us to alter our defense week to week (or playoff to playoff game) based on match-ups - the only problem with that theory is the cognitive abilities of Dennis Allen...

04-25-2020, 09:10 AM	#2
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread Originally Posted by jeanpierre Hate quoting myself, but wanted to highlight something in what I posted, and just to show that I'm open-minded... Baun may allow us to alter our defense week to week (or playoff to playoff game) based on match-ups - the only problem with that theory is the cognitive abilities of Dennis Allen... Hate quoting myself AHHHH! JP BITC*IN BOUT DRAFT PICKS!! LEADING THE "COULDA,WOULDA SHOULDA AND WHAT IF" CHANT!!! LIKE THE FINAL SCENE IN THE "MUSIC MAN" "PROFESSOR HAROLD "JP" HILL" LEADING THE B&G BAND IN A ROUSING CHORUS OF "76 DRAFT CHOICES" "ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL"................
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544