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neugey 03-31-2022 03:29 PM
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5 years for Bobby Wagner? Must be for backloading purposes because with all due respect I don't see him playing for more than 2-3 years tops.

K Major 03-31-2022 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 949370)
Figured he’d want to stay out west. Good for Bobby.

Rams are still hungry for another chip.

I ain’t mad at em.

jeanpierre 03-31-2022 06:22 PM
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jeanpierre 04-01-2022 12:39 PM
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jeanpierre 04-01-2022 01:09 PM
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jeanpierre 04-01-2022 01:10 PM
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Lord_Saint83 04-01-2022 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 949423)


I hate the rams but I respect that they know you gotta spend money to make money. They are loading up for another deep run, while we’re sitting around twiddling thumbs hoping people don’t mind taking hometown discounts to come here

K Major 04-01-2022 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 949425)
I hate the rams but I respect that they know you gotta spend money to make money. They are loading up for another deep run, while we’re sitting around twiddling thumbs hoping people don’t mind taking hometown discounts to come here
That’s what he said 👌.

Completely agree Lord.

Again, I ain’t mad at the Rams for the moves they’ve made over the last two off seasons. They are still hungry for another chip.

Rugby Saint II 04-01-2022 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 949425)
I hate the rams but I respect that they know you gotta spend money to make money. They are loading up for another deep run, while we’re sitting around twiddling thumbs hoping people don’t mind taking hometown discounts to come here
I don't think we are twiddling our thumbs so much as finding the right price for a player and sticking to it. We are still in the hunt for the playoffs while we are retooling and we will sign market friendly players to a reasonable contract. But as usual we aren't big players in the first wave of free agency.

We get a lot of productive players from the second tier who are up and comers or just needing a fresh start. As usual we fill the positions needed in free agency and then draft the best BPA or BPA at a position of need. We not in a rebuild but we need rookies with cheap contracts to get this team back in contention.

saintsfan1976 04-01-2022 02:34 PM
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If we're here we may as well draft two WRs

SmashMouth 04-01-2022 02:44 PM
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Lord_Saint83 04-01-2022 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 949428)
I don't think we are twiddling our thumbs so much as finding the right price for a player and sticking to it. We are still in the hunt for the playoffs while we are retooling and we will sign market friendly players to a reasonable contract. But as usual we aren't big players in the first wave of free agency.

We get a lot of productive players from the second tier who are up and comers or just needing a fresh start. As usual we fill the positions needed in free agency and then draft the best BPA or BPA at a position of need. We not in a rebuild but we need rookies with cheap contracts to get this team back in contention.



I feel you on that but we cleared all this money for Watson. He didn’t come, so use it. For offensive free agents to come here with Payton gone and a defensive minded head coach you might have to spend a lil more for a guy to come here. That luxury of playing for SP is gone. But I’m just a home GM, lol

Boston Saint 04-01-2022 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 949437)
I feel you on that but we cleared all this money for Watson. He didn’t come, so use it. For offensive free agents to come here with Payton gone and a defensive minded head coach you might have to spend a lil more for a guy to come here. That luxury of playing for SP is gone. But I’m just a home GM, lol
Well, I agree with the thought. The bright side is any unused money will roll over to help next year.

SaintGnome 04-01-2022 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 949447)
Well, I agree with the thought. The bright side is any unused money will roll over to help next year.
I really doubt we're done spending for this year. OK, so we didn't land the flash free agents, we also didn't give up a zillion draft picks or overpay for one. There's still a ton of time to make smart, realistic FA moves and there's always trade possibilities later on.

ChrisXVI 04-02-2022 08:17 AM
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I think we’re done. Given Dennis Allen’s recent comments about building through the draft, and Nick Underhill’s assertion that the Saints want to clean up their salary cap situation, we seem to be accepting the need to lay low. Deshaun Watson was our last big “kick the can down the road” attempt and with that falling through… we’re going to start playing it more conservative.

jeanpierre 04-02-2022 08:51 AM
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The drama of #TheDecision2 (Deshaun Watson Fiasco) delayed all the Saints Free Agency efforts...

We had to have a starting QB signed so we could then sign WRz and take advantage for some real good deals at WRz (e.g. D.J. Chark/1 year/$12M)...

Instead, Loomis and sidekick didn't get Winston done till Wave 3 of Free Agency, so we were really far behind in getting a WRz...

Agree with Chris, remaining cap room will be used to extend some players (e.g. Davenport, Gardner) and/or gain some cap relief for next year; and leave some for the rookie pool...

To really take this solid roster to another level, we're going to need to hit on two really good offensive linemen (Day 1, 2) and two wide receivers (Day 2,3) that can contribute immediately...

K Major 04-02-2022 10:14 AM
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Done in Free agency? I hope not.

As Lord eluded to earlier, you'll have to either slightly overpay @ WR, OL & TE or go into 2022 with the same suspect group of characters.

The Rams have somewhat changed the game in Free Agency vs the draft and the payoff was a Lombardi trophy.

I'm all for "building through the draft", however, there is nothing wrong with slightly overpaying a proven (Landry, Collins, Mathieu, or whatever) NFL commodity.

At this point, I wouldn't rule out trading for a player. You'll need a solid #2 opposite MT in case he goes down again.

If Dennis is serious about contending in 2022, you must get weapons. The likes of Trequan, Vannett, and Trautman ain't good enough.

Happy Saturday & I'm off to ride the motorcycle, the weather is incredible today :bng:

ChrisXVI 04-02-2022 10:32 AM
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We’re going in with the same group of characters + whomever we add in the draft. Most people aren’t going to want to admit it, but we are in a rebuild and kicking the can down the road did hurt our roster. Armstead counts for $13 million in dead cap this year and Drew Brees still costs $11.5 million in dead money. Get ready for a down year.

jnormand 04-02-2022 11:09 AM
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Idk why you guys are so worried about WR. Um hellllllooo. We signed 3quan! Might as well trade Can't Call Mike. We have everything we need for a championship run!

Lord_Saint83 04-02-2022 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 949463)
We’re going in with the same group of characters + whomever we add in the draft. Most people aren’t going to want to admit it, but we are in a rebuild and kicking the can down the road did hurt our roster. Armstead counts for $13 million in dead cap this year and Drew Brees still costs $11.5 million in dead money. Get ready for a down year.


I hope we aren’t in a rebuild, Chris. Demario and Cam aren’t getting any younger. And, I really want them to at least get to the bowl before it’s all said and done.

jeanpierre 04-02-2022 11:42 AM
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ChrisXVI 04-02-2022 11:48 AM
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Third safety that we’ve signed this offseason.

jeanpierre 04-02-2022 11:53 AM
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jeanpierre 04-02-2022 12:36 PM
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The Dude 04-02-2022 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 949466)
I hope we aren’t in a rebuild, Chris. Demario and Cam aren’t getting any younger. And, I really want them to at least get to the bowl before it’s all said and done.
I’d say a holding pattern more than rebuild. Doesn’t change the fact those guys aren’t getting any younger. I think they are holding their breath with the hope we have a VERY good draft and Winston turns out to be legit. Basically holding their cards and wishing for luck. If not then next year will be a major roster shakeup.

GeauxForMore 04-02-2022 08:28 PM
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I'm just waiting for Mathieu to sign and a WR #2. I don't want much lol......

WW_Who_Dat 04-02-2022 09:14 PM
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I’d say a holding pattern more than rebuild. Doesn’t change the fact those guys aren’t getting any younger. I think they are holding their breath with the hope we have a VERY good draft and Winston turns out to be legit. Basically holding their cards and wishing for luck. If not then next year will be a major roster shakeup.
So far Armstead is the only real lost … and then for only an average of 10 games a year. Williams was good but the I think of the critical plays/tackles/blown coverages and the impact they had on our seasons.
Good Luck Fare Thee Well … thanks for those memeories.

K Major 04-03-2022 10:36 AM
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TE is a position that definitely needs to be addressed. I don’t see very many people discussing this. Yes we are badly in need of a WR 2 but I feel like we can draft a guy. Are there any TE’s in FA or on other teams rosters that would be worth a trade? What’s this years draft class look like?
Appears to be a meh year for Free agent TE's. The only guy I liked was Gesicki but the Fins tagged him almost a month ago.

jeanpierre 04-03-2022 05:35 PM
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ChrisXVI 04-03-2022 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 949485)
Appears to be a meh year for Free agent TE's. The only guy I liked was Gesicki but the Fins tagged him almost a month ago.
Can’t really count on a rookie TE to produce either because for some reason it’s a hard transition for that position. It’s up to Trautman, Vannett and Taysom.

ChrisXVI 04-04-2022 04:45 PM
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Oh my God… We signed ANOTHER safety. This is almost becoming a meme.

ChrisXVI 04-04-2022 05:30 PM
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STOP SIGNING DEFENSIVE PLAYERS.

jnormand 04-04-2022 05:56 PM
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I hope they didn't give Taco much money. The guy has been a non factor since coming into the league. I think he had 5 sacks in his best season. Lol.

K Major 04-05-2022 08:46 AM
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Justin Evans (S) ... interesting signing. Good college prospect but can't stay healthy (think Kwon A) as a PRO.

Maybe Dr. Rhea can change that this off-season.

Very low-risk signing.

K Major 04-05-2022 08:49 AM
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Speaking of the safety position ...

Tyrann Mathieu is scheduled for a Saints visit.

Per Ian Rapoport.

Lord_Saint83 04-05-2022 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 949622)
Speaking of the safety position ...

Tyrann Mathieu is scheduled for a Saints visit.

Per Ian Rapoport.


Oh sh*t. Don’t let him leave without a contract

K Major 04-05-2022 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 949624)
Oh sh*t. Don’t let him leave without a contract
He definitely wants to be in New Orleans but as we know ...

It will come down to money.

Lord_Saint83 04-05-2022 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 949625)
He definitely wants to be in New Orleans but as we know ...

It will come down to money.


Very true. I just hope they don’t try to lowball him. It seems like we are adding defensive guys in FA and will address the offense in the draft

AsylumGuido 04-05-2022 10:45 AM
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ChrisXVI 04-05-2022 10:49 AM
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We’ve already signed like 12 safeties… what’s one more?!


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