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[quote=jeanpierre;946107]Trading away those Round 4 and 5 picks every year catches up to you...

Payton is gone now and those draft bells he rang can NEVER BE UNRUNG let that sink in.................. who gets the blame starting this year?

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 945951)

Sounds quite odd in wanting to have taller guys on the inside. They only get in the way of the passer. Guards and Centers are usually more runblockers than pass blockers since the technique becomes much more similar on the inside due to space constraints. That often leads teams to looking for shorter guys with big lower bodies so that they have a low center of gravity and the ability to anchor in the pass game and create a lot of force in the run game.

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 945958)

You would think that would be the case.

The first time I'd heard the Saints mention they had a preferred type or size for IOL was when Sean was talking about signing Goodwin, and he went into length on the IOL...

He said that was what attracted them to Carl Nicks was that as a big man like that engaged, it gave 'em some more range to get push on the inside. First I'd heard that thinking...

But if you look at what they've signed, used on the inside, even Center, rarely did they deploy guys 6' 3" at C or even below 6' 5" with Jahri Evans being the exception...

Apparently these so called requirements are no longer in play.

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946121)

https://twitter.com/TheDan_Parr/stat...86507483828229

For a man of his size, he's extremely athletic.

Solid senior bowl showing.

I'm sure Cincy is all over this prospect.

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Officially 8.5” hands for QB Kenny Pickett. That would be the smallest for QB’s in the league.

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 946143)

Officially 8.5” hands for QB Kenny Pickett. That would be the smallest for QB’s in the league.

He'll slide down the draft board.

For some teams, hand size is more important than others.

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#FWIW, Michael Vick had 8.5" hands...

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So psyched for the WR workouts today!

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This was the guy from Nebraska I wanted to sneak away with in the 7th round, he's not even in the dBase of some mock sims; that's gonna change...

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 946161)

#FWIW, Michael Vick had 8.5" hands...

Vick also had 98 fumbles in 115 career starts, including 16 in 2004 to lead the league.

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Here we go… WR 40’s!

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Treylon Burks with 4.55 on the first run. We’ll see how his second run turns out but that’s not as fast as I thought.

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Holy **** a 4.26 for Chris Olave!! Gimme gimme gimme.

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 946179)

Holy **** a 4.26 for Chris Olave!! Gimme gimme gimme.

I know, Chris. I was really high on him before that but now I’m all in

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 946179)

Holy **** a 4.26 for Chris Olave!! Gimme gimme gimme.

Y’all know I got the eye right?

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 946180)

I know, Chris. I was really high on him before that but now I’m all in

All in is right. Best route runner in the draft with 4.26 speed. Close friends with Michael Thomas. Olave is the guy.

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 946182)

All in is right. Best route runner in the draft with 4.26 speed. Close friends with Michael Thomas. Olave is the guy.

We can always trade up. We know how to do that.

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What is going on with these WR’s?!? These guys are all sub-4.4!

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946183)

We can always trade up. We know how to do that.

We’re gonna have to now. No way is he there at 18

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Garrett Wilson ran faster than I thought he would

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 946187)

Garrett Wilson ran faster than I thought he would

I thought he’d be in the low 4.5’s. This is incredible. These fellas are scootin’.

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 946188)

I thought he’d be in the low 4.5’s. This is incredible. These fellas are scootin’.

Yea, I’ve never seen anything like it

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And this was without the insanely fast Jameson Williams too. What a perfect time to have a big need to get faster at WR.

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Too bad the Saints won’t select Olave though :rolleyes:.

We’ll wait until day 2.

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And Michael has this to say about the times ...

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WR Alec Pierce, CIN, 6' 3", 211 lbs, has had a terrific combine performance and definitely moved into Round 2 - he's my favorite WR in this class...

40 yd dash - 4.33 sec (6th) Acceleration

Vertical Jump - 40.50" (1st) Jump Balls

Broad Jump - 10' 9" (7th) Burst

If we took Trevor Penning in Round 1, Pierce in Round 2, and S Kerby Joseph in Round 3, we'd have as impactful a draft imaginable...

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What kind of s*** is this?! How could Olave’s time be off by .13? That’s a crazy discrepancy.

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Most surprising was how mediocre Treylon Burks tested. All the hype was about how he’d blow up the combine. An official 4.55 forty, 33” vertical, 10’ 2” broad jump… all very average. Not good for a guy who’s route running isn’t very good either.

Edit: Forgot to add the 7.28 three-cone time as well.

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The draft rumor peddlers continue to report the Saints are very high on Tulsa left tackle Tyler Smith.