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*checking backyard*

Not seeing a barn. :confused:

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#1. Stay healthy. Mathieu was able to grind it out in all 17 games.

When Maye did play, he was meh. Nothing stood out.

Saints must do better in creating takeaways this season.

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+1. Health! Last two years we were definitely on the wrong side of injuries. It’s our karmic turn to get good news on the injury front this year. If we do we could be special.

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Bingo! Health is a key. But that said, an interesting article here ...

Wow! Both Saints starting safeties ranked in the top 24 in the entire league!

PFF Ranking the 25 Best Safeties from 2022 NFL Regular Season

This list is based almost entirely on PFF’s final defensive grades for every safety during the 2022 regular season. The grades consider every defensive snap played for every player in every game. This list also allows for some wiggle room in the final rankings based on the number of snaps, with a 500-snap minimum in place, but leans heavily into the final grades from the end of the regular season.

These rankings take into account only the 2022 regular season and have nothing to do with what a player has done in the past. Safety is often the most versatile defensive position, as some players stay in a single-high role while others move around, playing in the slot, in the box and along the defensive line. This creates different levels of opportunity for each player's grade to rise or decline based on how many chances they get to be involved in plays.

3. TYRANN MATHIEU, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS (81.2)

Mathieu played all 17 games in his 10th NFL season, and first season with his new team in New Orleans, for a career-high 1,128 defensive snaps (sixth), which moves him further up this list than his final grades rank him. The Honey Badger’s position-leading 87.9 coverage grade came from allowing 7.6 yards per reception when targeted (tied for fourth), as well as just a 65.9 passer rating when targeted (sixth).



24. MARCUS MAYE, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS (71.8)

Maye’s first season with the Saints had its ups and downs, including missing games due to injury at the beginning and end of the year but also flashing all the signs that made him an early second-round pick back in 2017. The former Florida Gator had a strong coverage year that resulted in a 71.3 coverage grade (24th). He allowed just 23.1% of his targets to go for a first down or a touchdown (third best).

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Whatever :rolleyes:. Rizz, Lutz & my guy Blake G need to perform better this season.

The Saints ranked bottom half on special teams in 2022.

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This matches what I've heard elsewhere on teams planning on telling their returners to avoid calling for the fair catch. The negative involved with a mishandling of the ball outweighs any advantage of ball position gained by calling the fair catch. This rule shouldn't have much of an impact on the game and will probably go away after this single season test period.

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This could be a big depth addition on the offensive line, free-agent C Billy Price, with lots of starting experience.

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A little preseason insight from NFL vets ...

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It pays off when everybody buys in. Even one or two slackers can change the pace at practice. Apparently, last year not a lot of players bought into DA's first year but this year is a different story with great OTA attendance.

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Been trying to post this since last night. The severe weather came through here and knocked out everything. Just got power and internet back.

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The victims of the new special teams rules?

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13.5M?

I hope they use some of that cash on a quality vet LB.

As Underhill & Mike have mentioned several times …. it’s very thin @ the position & Demarco is a complete unknown.

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I don't believe so. As coach Rizzi said the Saints aren't planning on calling the fair catch anyway. I suspect Flowers didn't show enough at WR to make the squad and there are others that can handle other duties AND return kicks, including the two new WR's Bowden and Coutee. If you want to make the Saints squad you better have multiple skill sets.

Edit: As I thought. I just checked out Flowers' college stats. He only had 52 catches over his five year career at Montana. Add in his 16 rush attempts and he managed only five TD's. On the other hand he had 92 kickoff returns. He was a one trick pony. He was worth a look, but in the NFL you have to earn your spot.

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Jadeveon Clowney, EDGE
Yannick Ngakoue, EDGE
Dalton Risner, G
Anthony Barr, LB
Jaylon Smith, LB
Kwon Alexander, LB

With that cap space we could probably bring in multiple vets. I’d grab Clowney and Kwon if possible.

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I have read and heard that they are pretty high on both D'Marco Jackson and Anfernee Orji at LB. I have a feeling all the vets are going to want to wait until after training camp to commit anywhere. I don't blame them.

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I'm good with any of those selections EXCEPT Jaylon Smith.

He's pretty bad. Slow & the burst is nonexistent. Honestly, he's not the same player after the injury.

Kwon? Knows the system & would be great depth but I don't see it happening.

Not a popular choice but I'd take a flyer on Rueben Foster :bugeyes:.

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:awe:

Not until we need someone during the season do I think it's prudent to consider these guys. :bng:

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Fixed it for you.

It's clear we have no intention of moving away from the 4-2 scheme since that's what they've been using throughout OTA's and minicamp. Any LB beyond Davis and Werner are expected to 1) be there as a backup for the two of them, 2) come in on a situational 4-3 alignment (very rare in the Dennis Allen scheme), and 3) to be very involved in special teams.

I just can't see us or those vets themselves wanting that scenario. I could be wrong, but it just doesn't make sense right now.

It could also be that one of the other eight LB's we have on the 90 man roster can fill that role with no further financial outlay. If we sign anyone else at LB right now it will mean cutting one, or more, of these.

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Smash

Demario Davis is 34 years of age. A quality LB but after him, there is no proven depth (Ellis is gone). Pete Werner is an up-and-comer but he hasn't played (battled injuries in 2022) a full season yet. Then come to the playoffs (assuming we get there).

I remember there were 2 individuals (actually it was one homer here :rolleyes:) on this board who thought our WR depth was "fine" when Sean P was here .. Callaway, Lil J and Tre (good lord). OK ...

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We could try to trade for Devin White. 🤷🏽*♂️

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We had this discussion already. Saints must like who's in the house already, Jackson prolly . I think they pick up someone when all the cuts are made .

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That's right. This team loves bringing in the scraps an left overs. Our scouting department is better than most and should know if a player fits the system based on our initial evaluation of him.

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I like what both Nick and Mike said about Anfernee Orji. I'd call him my dark horse, too. This is actually a good topic.

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A few more dates ...