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K Major 02-02-2023 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969011)
Day one pick for sure if we don't go DL.

Still need multiple big and uglies .
I think Penning has the ability to become a nasty OT.

In that Browns game, he was moving grown men against their will :p

AsylumGuido 02-02-2023 05:08 PM
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Rugby Saint II 02-06-2023 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969027)
They have us picking a tight end in the first round. I think that would make an awful lot of fans nauseous. I don't remember that being on most people's list of needs and we have way too many needs that need to be filled before we address tight end, where we have Juwan Johnson developing into a threat.

K Major 02-06-2023 02:05 PM
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Quite a bit of chatter (local media) up my way on Hooker.

Overall they like the skillset, touch on the deep pass,etc.)

I just don’t see him falling to Rd 3 as they are hoping.

SmashMouth 02-06-2023 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969239)
Quite a bit of chatter (local media) up my way on Hooker.

Overall they like the skillset, touch on the deep pass,etc.)

I just don’t see him falling to Rd 3 as they are hoping.
I am certain Hooker doesn't see it either. Even if we grab him , either 2nd or third round, we should take a late flyer on another QB, McKee, Stetson or the Kid from Fresno.

K Major 02-13-2023 11:45 AM
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Time to shift focus to the draft. Super Bowl is over.

Getting better as a team is via the draft. Carr may or may not sign in New Orleans. Who knows but the Loomis needs to draw a line on what he offers Carr's camp.

If Hooker is there in rd 2, he's high on my short list of options @ QB.

K Major 02-13-2023 11:49 AM
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Mid to later round (see KC 7th rounder Pacheco) options -

RB Kenny McIntosh (Georgia)

AK legit help to share the workload. 4 year player, with 150 rush attempts, 10 tds and is a contributor in the passing game.

AsylumGuido 02-13-2023 11:58 AM
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AsylumGuido 02-13-2023 06:21 PM
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Crusader 02-14-2023 12:50 PM
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https://www.nfl.com/news/three-round...ars-involved-i

Pretty decent 3 round mock. I'd be pretty allright with those picks.

K Major 02-14-2023 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 969696)
https://www.nfl.com/news/three-round...ars-involved-i

Pretty decent 3 round mock. I'd be pretty allright with those picks.
Another edge rusher on Day 1? Hmm..

Well, Cam isn't getting any younger + we could lose Davenport and Turner has yet to show up.

I'm really hoping for a DT in Rd1. Bolster up that D line. You win in those trenches.

saintsfan1976 02-14-2023 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969698)
Another edge rusher on Day 1? Hmm..

Well, Cam isn't getting any younger + we could lose Davenport and Turner has yet to show up.

I'm really hoping for a DT in Rd1. Bolster up that D line. You win in those trenches.
We may get one in FA

Rugby Saint II 02-14-2023 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969698)
Another edge rusher on Day 1? Hmm..

Well, Cam isn't getting any younger + we could lose Davenport and Turner has yet to show up.

I'm really hoping for a DT in Rd1. Bolster up that D line. You win in those trenches.
I'm afraid to Draft defensive end using the same draft parameters using the players raw Athletic score but would love a solid defensive tackle in the first round. Either that or give me an offensive guard. I'll be happy with either one. Just give me one of the big uglies I'm dreaming about.

K Major 02-14-2023 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 969703)
I'm afraid to Draft defensive end using the same draft parameters using the players raw Athletic score but would love a solid defensive tackle in the first round. Either that or give me an offensive guard. I'll be happy with either one. Just give me one of the big uglies I'm dreaming about.
I could live with a guard (Cyrus Torrence - Florida) as well. Highly compensated Andrus Peat simply refuses to give you a complete season of football.

What are the chances we go back & snag another WR with that 1st round pick? No guarantees Mike and/or Landry will be around in 2023.

AsylumGuido 02-14-2023 04:25 PM
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Cam's playing GM now. Y'all have anything on Jalen Carter?

SmashMouth 02-14-2023 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969739)
Cam's playing GM now. Y'all have anything on Jalen Carter?

https://twitter.com/camjordan94/stat...18451694755859
Cam is definitely front office material. Maybe he transitions in the Saints organization .

AsylumGuido 02-14-2023 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969745)
Cam is definitely front office material. Maybe he transitions in the Saints organization .
I have a feeling he'll transition to the small screen. Way more money in broadcasting than an NFL front office if you are good. He will be. He's a natural. Think Michael Strahan or Nate Burleson.

neugey 02-14-2023 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969747)
I have a feeling he'll transition to the small screen. Way more money in broadcasting than an NFL front office if you are good. He will be. He's a natural. Think Michael Strahan or Nate Burleson.

Kind of, but Cameron is more of a straight shooter than either of those guys. You don't know what he'll say, like Charles Barkley. He'd be a good fit for new media like the Pat McAfee show.

halloween 65 02-14-2023 06:57 PM
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I get Carr in FA draft McCall and let him sit and learn a couple seasons. Accurate and can run as well. Can be had middle to late rounds.

AsylumGuido 02-15-2023 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 969748)
Kind of, but Cameron is more of a straight shooter than either of those guys. You don't know what he'll say, like Charles Barkley. He'd be a good fit for new media like the Pat McAfee show.
He's already got a McAfee type podcast show that he hosts along with Mark Ingram.

Truss Levelz w/ Cam Jordan & Mark Ingram

I expect something bigger like NFL Network's Good Morning Football. He's be a guest on that show multiple times and knocks it out of the park every time.

AsylumGuido 02-15-2023 11:13 AM
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But ESPN’s Todd McShay has a worrisome suggestion. One of the players who could leave this offseason is defensive end Marcus Davenport, who has all the ability in the world but struggled to stay on the field through five years with the Saints due to injuries and inconsistent play. He has the Saints picking a prospect with many of the same qualities that filled Davenport’s scouting report coming out of college: Georgia Tech defensive end Keion White.

SmashMouth 02-15-2023 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969781)
https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...99236976996366

But ESPN’s Todd McShay has a worrisome suggestion. One of the players who could leave this offseason is defensive end Marcus Davenport, who has all the ability in the world but struggled to stay on the field through five years with the Saints due to injuries and inconsistent play. He has the Saints picking a prospect with many of the same qualities that filled Davenport’s scouting report coming out of college: Georgia Tech defensive end Keion White.
No more projects like him. :bng:

He was already too expensive with the two number ones.

K Major 02-15-2023 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969792)
No more projects like him. :bng:

He was already too expensive with the two number ones.
And way too many injury concerns (White) in college.

Hard pass.

K Major 02-15-2023 01:56 PM
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Latest mock for the Saints -

DE Tuli Tuipulotu, USC

He was tops in sacks (13.5) last season.

FinSaint 02-15-2023 02:33 PM
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Hau'oli Kikaha and Zack Baun had bunch of sacks in college as well. And while both are/were LBs - they were supposed to bring pass rush along with Davenport and Turner.

It doesn't too good on the scouts' evaluations.

SmashMouth 02-15-2023 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 969801)
Hau'oli Kikaha and Zack Baun had bunch of sacks in college as well. And while both are/were LBs - they were supposed to bring pass rush along with Davenport and Turner.

It doesn't too good on the scouts' evaluations.
Those two predate Jeff Ireland, if my memory serves me right.

K Major 02-15-2023 02:59 PM
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I'm still on pass rushers in Rd 1.

Myles Murphy - Clemson

Quick & has power. Day 1 starter

FinSaint 02-15-2023 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969802)
Those two predate Jeff Ireland, if my memory serves me right.
Kikaha was taken in the 2015 draft and Ireland had joined the Saints in January of 2015, Baun was taken in the 2020 draft.

K Major 02-15-2023 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 969801)
Hau'oli Kikaha and Zack Baun had bunch of sacks in college as well. And while both are/were LBs - they were supposed to bring pass rush along with Davenport and Turner.

It doesn't too good on the scouts' evaluations.
IMO Kikaha was a reach in the 2nd & Baun has never been utilized to his strengths in the Saint's defensive philosophy.

Give the guy a legit chance to rush @ OLB. Forcing him --> square peg into a round hole. He is more of a 3-4 defensive "fit".

But yeah, scouting has to be spot-on in 2023.

K Major 02-17-2023 09:56 AM
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ZACH CHARBONNET

RB - UCLA

Good size, 4 year back in college. Solid vision & power.
Mid-round grade.

halloween 65 02-17-2023 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969891)
ZACH CHARBONNET

RB - UCLA

Good size, 4 year back in college. Solid vision & power.
Mid-round grade.

Zach Charbonnet: Lead Back or Back-Up? | 2023 NFL Draft Scouting Report - YouTube
yep, i want him and the kid from tulane. i seriously draft 2 backs this draft, trade Kamara and roll.

K Major 02-17-2023 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 969895)
yep, i want him and the kid from tulane. i seriously draft 2 backs this draft, trade Kamara and roll.
Surely the Saints scout can find a guy like rookie Isiah Pacheco, right?

7th round pick & played an active role in winning the Super bowl.

Scouts missed on this guy. Then again, maybe it's the creative Reid "system" up in KC.

halloween 65 02-17-2023 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969896)
Surely the Saints scout can find a guy like rookie Isiah Pacheco, right?

7th round pick & played an active role in winning the Super bowl.

Scouts missed on this guy. Then again, maybe it's the creative Reid "system" up in KC.
Reid has always had good rb.'s dating back to his time in Philly, the man just knows how to put a team together.

Crusader 02-17-2023 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969896)
Surely the Saints scout can find a guy like rookie Isiah Pacheco, right?

7th round pick & played an active role in winning the Super bowl.

Scouts missed on this guy. Then again, maybe it's the creative Reid "system" up in KC.
Probably a bit of both. There are a bunch of guys that gets overlooked every year because of size, speed och any other measurment. Or they got stuck behind a stud in college. Then some of them ends up in the perfect system for their skillset in the NFL and all of a sudden BOOM. Coach looks like a genius and the scouts like duds.

Rugby Saint II 02-17-2023 02:58 PM
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First round - defensive tackle/offensive guard.

Second round- Hendon Hooker.

Third round- Tajae Spears.

AsylumGuido 02-19-2023 04:41 PM
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SmashMouth 02-19-2023 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969997)
Isn't he a Davenport clone?

K Major 02-19-2023 06:16 PM
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Speaking of former 1st rounders, I see Payton Lynch
was BENCHED. In the XFL 😳.

Boy, talk about a former 1st rd bust by the Broncos.

“Hitting” on QBs at the NFL level is so hard to do.

But the Saints need to start gambling a bit more. And drafting a QB in rds 4-7 don’t carry much weight. See Ian Book.

AsylumGuido 02-20-2023 09:20 AM
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