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AsylumGuido 02-28-2023 03:58 PM

Re: Mock Drafts 2023
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 970435)
We all enjoy this time of year and the projections made in mock drafts. Just be ready for the first round pick to be a fullback from Albion College.:beer:

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 970458)
Is any good?;)

Adam Stiverson - Albion College

https://gobrits.com/images/2022/8/16....JPG?width=300

SmashMouth 03-01-2023 10:03 AM

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RuhRoh.... top of the draft just got rearranged.

Will he now fall to #29?

AsylumGuido 03-01-2023 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970481)

Maybe, but his character will be a huge question. First he left the scene of the accident and then he lied to police about being there, having been drinking, and being involved in the dangerous road racing. Sure, he was probably scared to death, but it tells a lot about his character, something that teams will weigh heavily. The lying will have more of a negative impact than the actual violations.

Edit: By the way, for those not following the link, this is concerning Jalen Carter DL Georgia.


Mr.Riaton 03-01-2023 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970481)

Its frustrating to see guys who are at the cusp of making to the NFL and making millions of dollars do stupid sh*t like this. Its also sad because these guys arent fully developed mentally at that age and sometimes dont fully grasp the consequences of their actions. That part of the brain is actually the last to develop.

K Major 03-01-2023 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970481)

Apparently leaving the scene of an accident and lied. This is bad.

Not to mention 2 people lost their lives.

SmashMouth 03-01-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 970483)
Maybe, but his character will be a huge question. First he left the scene of the accident and then he lied to police about being there, having been drinking, and being involved in the dangerous road racing. Sure, he was probably scared to death, but it tells a lot about his character, something that teams will weigh heavily. The lying will have more of a negative impact than the actual violations.

Edit: By the way, for those not following the link, this is concerning Jalen Carter DL Georgia.

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1630963378230288386

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 970487)
Its frustrating to see guys who are at the cusp of making to the NFL and making millions of dollars do stupid sh*t like this. Its also sad because these guys arent fully developed mentally at that age and sometimes dont fully grasp the consequences of their actions. That part of the brain is actually the last to develop.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970488)
Apparently leaving the scene of an accident and lied. This is bad.

Not to mention 2 people lost their lives.


AsylumGuido 03-01-2023 12:28 PM

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For what it is worth ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqJ1ChDX...jpg&name=large

iceshack149 03-01-2023 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 970456)
Even if we sign Carr?
Their now saying Carr and the Saints have a scheduled interview in Indy.

Absolutely. Carr would be an upgrade at QB over what the Saints had last year but I think that the ceiling for Hooker is higher.

AsylumGuido 03-01-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 970505)
Absolutely. Carr would be an upgrade at QB over what the Saints had last year but I think that the ceiling for Hooker is higher.

Wow! That's saying a lot. Carr is ahead of QB's like Terry Bradshaw, Kurt Warner, Phil Simms, and Ken Anderson in career passing yards and TD's with a great deal of his career still ahead of him. If any of these QB's coming out this year were to end up putting up numbers like Carr has accomplished they would be considered draft jackpots.

If we were to get Hooker in the draft I hope to hell he does match Carr in production. If he did then we would be in great shape moving forward!

K Major 03-01-2023 04:31 PM

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Select a G, Safety, WR, QB & DT in next month's draft.

The Saints need a space eater on the D line. Free up, Davis and Werner.

SmashMouth 03-01-2023 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970519)
Select a G, Safety, WR, QB & DT in next month's draft.

The Saints need a space eater on the D line. Free up, Davis and Werner.

Jalen Carter could work.

rezburna 03-01-2023 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 970456)
Even if we sign Carr?
Their now saying Carr and the Saints have a scheduled interview in Indy.

Even if we signed Carr Id still take him in the 1st.

K Major 03-01-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970521)
Jalen Carter could work.

I'd be surprised if he dropped that far.

But again, I'm just a couch GM :smokin::smokin:.

K Major 03-02-2023 09:46 AM

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Darnell Washington - TE
Georgia
6'7 270 athletic, solid hands & creates mismatches.

This would address a weakness. Troutman's ceiling is average at best.

I've added Darnell because his name recently surfaced to the Saints @ #29.


cmike 03-02-2023 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 970523)
Even if we signed Carr Id still take him in the 1st.

That is even more reason for us not to sign Carr.
I really dont see a real difference between Dalton and Carr.
Id rather see what the Pack want for Rodgers. Pay him the 30+ mil for 2 seasons, draft Hooker and see how that plays out.

rezburna 03-02-2023 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 970548)
That is even more reason for us not to sign Carr.
I really dont see a real difference between Dalton and Carr.
Id rather see what the Pack want for Rodgers. Pay him the 30+ mil for 2 seasons, draft Hooker and see how that plays out.

Arm talent and ceiling is the difference. I understand what you're saying though. I wouldn't die if we don't get Carr. I do have my heart set on Hooker though.

rezburna 03-02-2023 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970546)
Darnell Washington - TE
Georgia
6'7 270 athletic, solid hands & creates mismatches.

This would address a weakness. Troutman's ceiling is average at best.

I've added Darnell because his name recently surfaced to the Saints @ #29.

Darnell Washington 2022 Highlights | Georgia TE | 2023 NFL Draft Prospect - YouTube

I wouldn't be mad at this pick at all.

AsylumGuido 03-02-2023 11:16 AM

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K Major 03-02-2023 01:11 PM

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Rugby Saint II 03-02-2023 01:50 PM

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The lack of production from our first round DE's has me worried about drafting another DE in the first round. I know we need, one but I have very little faith that they can develop player prototype DE's who have a high RAS and not much else.

AsylumGuido 03-02-2023 01:59 PM

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All this talk about lack of production by our defensive line and the Saints finished in #5 in the league in yards allowed and #5 in total sacks. Sure, they can be improved. All teams can, but they certainly were not bad. Not by a longshot.

K Major 03-02-2023 04:22 PM

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FYI, the Saints have had their meeting with Florida QB Anthony Richardson. FWIW, his medical is kinda long. That could potentially scare a few teams off.

Due Diligence


SmashMouth 03-02-2023 10:54 PM

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AsylumGuido 03-03-2023 07:45 AM

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I'll take this guy.


K Major 03-03-2023 09:15 AM

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RD 3 -

Jordan Battle (S)

Alabama

SmashMouth 03-03-2023 11:09 AM

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C.J. Stroud: I dont want to go to the Bears; thats Justin Fields team

Not sure how to read this... so many possibilities.

AsylumGuido 03-03-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970616)
C.J. Stroud: I dont want to go to the Bears; thats Justin Fields team

Not sure how to read this... so many possibilities.

I think it's pretty straight forward. They both went to Ohio State and are friends. Friends don't want to hurt friends. Whatever team Stroud goes to is going to be bad anyway.

K Major 03-03-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970616)
C.J. Stroud: I dont want to go to the Bears; thats Justin Fields team

Not sure how to read this... so many possibilities.

Respect on respect. The Bears would be foolish to give up on Fields after only 2 seasons. CJ is talented but unknown.

JF needs legit help on the O line & more playmakers (notice how often he had to take off running) @ WR.

Hell, I'd take Justin as my QB for NO in a heartbeat.

K Major 03-03-2023 11:54 AM

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Good take & I agree with Matt, Jeremiah & McAfee's take on Hendon.

Take Hooker on Day 2, build for the future @ QB and let's geaux.


AsylumGuido 03-03-2023 11:57 AM

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K Major 03-03-2023 03:01 PM

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Nolan Smith - DE
Georgia

No guarantees Davenport stays in NOLA & Payton Turner has been underwhelming or injured :rolleyes:.

Oh & Cam Jordan will be 34 years of age at the start of training camp. Iron man can't play forever.

AsylumGuido 03-04-2023 09:44 AM

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SmashMouth 03-04-2023 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970636)
Nolan Smith Ultimate Georgia Highlights 🐶 || HD - YouTube

Nolan Smith - DE
Georgia

No guarantees Davenport stays in NOLA & Payton Turner has been underwhelming or injured :rolleyes:.

Oh & Cam Jordan will be 34 years of age at the start of training camp. Iron man can't play forever.

Would you pay MD $23 million a year? :bugeyes:

K Major 03-04-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970662)
Would you pay MD $23 million a year? :bugeyes:

Is that what Spotrac believes his "worth" is? IMO that's pretty steep for a guy who has enormous ability yet hasn't played a full season since being drafted 5 seasons ago.

By the way, he disappeared in 2022.

I'd like to have MD back for 2023 but on a team-friendly contract - full of incentives.

Now if his agent is requesting ridiculous, stupid money, allow him to get paid elsewhere but hey, I'm just a couch GM :cool:

SmashMouth 03-04-2023 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970667)
Is that what Spotrac believes his "worth" is? IMO that's pretty steep for a guy who has enormous ability yet hasn't played a full season since being drafted 5 seasons ago.

By the way, he disappeared in 2022.

I'd like to have MD back for 2023 but on a team-friendly contract - full of incentives.

Now if his agent is requesting ridiculous, stupid money, allow him to get paid elsewhere but hey, I'm just a couch GM :cool:

While he did have his pinky amputated , for reasons that remain still unclear to us, he wants what his agent says he can get. His loss of pinky didn't speed him up. JP Pierre seemed to still perform well sans fingers . If I'm the Saints, I let him get that pain and suffering contract somewhere else.

We might also get a compensatory pick outta this.

AsylumGuido 03-04-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 970670)
While he did have his pinky amputated , for reasons that remain still unclear to us, he wants what his agent says he can get. His loss of pinky didn't speed him up. JP Pierre seemed to still perform well sans fingers . If I'm the Saints, I let him get that pain and suffering contract somewhere else.

We might also get a compensatory pick outta this.

The portion of the finger was amputated because a plate he had installed due to a break broke itself. The broken plate caused an infection. Apparently he was informed it could remain a problem moving forward and removing it would not only insure the issue would be gone, he would get back on the field sooner.

papz 03-04-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970636)
Nolan Smith Ultimate Georgia Highlights 🐶 || HD - YouTube

Nolan Smith - DE
Georgia

No guarantees Davenport stays in NOLA & Payton Turner has been underwhelming or injured :rolleyes:.

Oh & Cam Jordan will be 34 years of age at the start of training camp. Iron man can't play forever.

Nolan Smith's combine numbers were straight stupid. Mercy. He certainly made an extra million or two from it.

dizzle88 03-04-2023 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 970667)
Is that what Spotrac believes his "worth" is? IMO that's pretty steep for a guy who has enormous ability yet hasn't played a full season since being drafted 5 seasons ago.

By the way, he disappeared in 2022.

I'd like to have MD back for 2023 but on a team-friendly contract - full of incentives.

Now if his agent is requesting ridiculous, stupid money, allow him to get paid elsewhere but hey, I'm just a couch GM :cool:

0.5 sacks and 29 tackles in 15 games last season. Woof. He needs to take that lack of fire somewhere else, I don't know what Payton and the front office were thinking with that pick but it's 5 years later and he still hasn't made an impact.

Sadly it seems like Payton Turner is following the exact same route too.


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