Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion

02-06-2024, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is why Lattimore shouldn't be going anywhere.

https://twitter.com/uSTADIUM/status/1754713043143897529

mapcow · 02-06-2024, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We've got some $34.5 million in roster bonus for simple conversion. Should free up some $28-$29 million.

It looks like we can free up an additional $91 million through simple salary conversions.

We also have $3.6 million in 2023 rollover. All of this can be done with no, or minimal, player or agent intervention so it is readily available.

So, without any negotiated contract restructuring we can cover the annual deficit and have up to around $39-$40 million available for free agency and draft picks (usually around the $5 million range).

That's easily enough for a dozen or more free agent signings with the way Harley structures the deals.

We ???

lee909 · 02-06-2024, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That is, of course, if the plan was to "revamp this team". In a recent NOF video with Nick Underhill and Mike Triplett, Triplett said that isn't the direction he is expecting them to go this off-season. He said he expects them to stick with adding pieces and trying to win now.

Great cant wait to be paying a 40 year old Cam Jordan 25ml plus in dead money not to be on the team cause we have converted his deal again

K Major · 02-06-2024, 09:17 PM

Time to get younger. Our BEST players are old.

There is no coincidence that most of the playoff participants are younger than the Saints. Packers, Cowboys, BUCS, Detroit, Eagles, Niners, Ravens.

It’s a young man’s game … Unless you enjoy missing post season.

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2024, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Great cant wait to be paying a 40 year old Cam Jordan 25ml plus in dead money not to be on the team cause we have converted his deal again

Hey, it is what it is. They run the team, not us.

Sinner · 02-07-2024, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Hey, it is what it is. They run the team, not us.

Hey, the law of supply and demand dictates that they will continue to supply what you are happy to settle for. Thank you for your continued $upport.

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2024, 09:46 AM

Matt Ryan gets one back on Cam.

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Rugby Saint II · 02-07-2024, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is why Lattimore shouldn't be going anywhere.

https://twitter.com/uSTADIUM/status/1754713043143897529

DA and Mickey Loomis would have to be pretty pi$$ed off at him to get rid of a shut down corner. Lattimore could leave and we'd be ok with Adebo and Taylor but not great like when Lattimore is out there. Our defense is a top defense because Lattimore can literally shut down his half of the field.

Sure he missed some games last year and we survived without him but we didn't play lights out without him. And the season before that he had a busted spleen, I believe, and came back strong in his first game back.

Besides, he's 28 and has had injuries the last couple of years. What is his value at this point? I'm thinking two second round picks plus some lagniappe later in the draft or a player trade.

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2024, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

DA and Mickey Loomis would have to be pretty pi$$ed off at him to get rid of a shut down corner. Lattimore could leave and we'd be ok with Adebo and Taylor but not great like when Lattimore is out there. Our defense is a top defense because Lattimore can literally shut down his half of the field.

Sure he missed some games last year and we survived without him but we didn't play lights out without him. And the season before that he had a busted spleen, I believe, and came back strong in his first game back.

Besides, he's 28 and has had injuries the last couple of years. What is his value at this point? I'm thinking two second round picks plus some lagniappe later in the draft or a player trade.

Why would they be pi$$ed off at all? Injuries are part of the game and are pretty much expected. That's why it is commonly said, especially among GM's and coaches, that the NFL is a 100% injury league. They know every player will at some point miss time due to injury. A few unreasonable fans are the only ones who get pi$$ed at players because of injuries. One would think most fans are knowledgeable enough to know better.

02-06-2024, 06:46 PM	#61
Threaded by mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is why Lattimore shouldn't be going anywhere. https://twitter.com/uSTADIUM/status/1754713043143897529
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02-06-2024, 06:47 PM	#62
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We've got some $34.5 million in roster bonus for simple conversion. Should free up some $28-$29 million. It looks like we can free up an additional $91 million through simple salary conversions. We also have $3.6 million in 2023 rollover. All of this can be done with no, or minimal, player or agent intervention so it is readily available. So, without any negotiated contract restructuring we can cover the annual deficit and have up to around $39-$40 million available for free agency and draft picks (usually around the $5 million range). That's easily enough for a dozen or more free agent signings with the way Harley structures the deals. We ??? K Major likes this.
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02-06-2024, 08:42 PM	#63
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That is, of course, if the plan was to "revamp this team". In a recent NOF video with Nick Underhill and Mike Triplett, Triplett said that isn't the direction he is expecting them to go this off-season. He said he expects them to stick with adding pieces and trying to win now. Great cant wait to be paying a 40 year old Cam Jordan 25ml plus in dead money not to be on the team cause we have converted his deal again K Major likes this.

02-06-2024, 09:17 PM	#64
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,822 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Time to get younger. Our BEST players are old. There is no coincidence that most of the playoff participants are younger than the Saints. Packers, Cowboys, BUCS, Detroit, Eagles, Niners, Ravens. It’s a young man’s game … Unless you enjoy missing post season. Sinner likes this.

02-07-2024, 07:58 AM	#65
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,606	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by lee909 Great cant wait to be paying a 40 year old Cam Jordan 25ml plus in dead money not to be on the team cause we have converted his deal again Hey, it is what it is. They run the team, not us.

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02-07-2024, 09:06 AM	#66
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,143	Re: 2024 Saints Off-Season General News and Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is why Lattimore shouldn't be going anywhere. https://twitter.com/uSTADIUM/status/1754713043143897529 DA and Mickey Loomis would have to be pretty pi$$ed off at him to get rid of a shut down corner. Lattimore could leave and we'd be ok with Adebo and Taylor but not great like when Lattimore is out there. Our defense is a top defense because Lattimore can literally shut down his half of the field. Sure he missed some games last year and we survived without him but we didn't play lights out without him. And the season before that he had a busted spleen, I believe, and came back strong in his first game back. Besides, he's 28 and has had injuries the last couple of years. What is his value at this point? I'm thinking two second round picks plus some lagniappe later in the draft or a player trade.
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02-07-2024, 03:36 PM	#70
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,606	Re: 2024 Saints Off-Season General News and Discussion Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II DA and Mickey Loomis would have to be pretty pi$$ed off at him to get rid of a shut down corner. Lattimore could leave and we'd be ok with Adebo and Taylor but not great like when Lattimore is out there. Our defense is a top defense because Lattimore can literally shut down his half of the field. Sure he missed some games last year and we survived without him but we didn't play lights out without him. And the season before that he had a busted spleen, I believe, and came back strong in his first game back. Besides, he's 28 and has had injuries the last couple of years. What is his value at this point? I'm thinking two second round picks plus some lagniappe later in the draft or a player trade. Why would they be pi$$ed off at all? Injuries are part of the game and are pretty much expected. That's why it is commonly said, especially among GM's and coaches, that the NFL is a 100% injury league. They know every player will at some point miss time due to injury. A few unreasonable fans are the only ones who get pi$$ed at players because of injuries. One would think most fans are knowledgeable enough to know better.