ok so they had 74 catches.. but does anyone really think that they are a threat? do you think the DC of our opponents gameplan to stop johnson and miller? does anyone here think they have done anything of real significance on the offensive side of the ball?

i dont..

Every offensive skill player on the field does not have to be a game changing threat.

The very fact that opposing DCs did not account for the tight end is the reason that Miller and Johnson collectively accounted for more catches (74), yards (706), TDs (4), and a decent YPC (9.5) than Shockey (57,609,3,10.5) last year.

With that type of production I'd ignore Shockey too.

But as I keep saying over and over and over again it's not just about talent. It's about fit. Johnson and Miller were both happy enough with the situation with the Saints that they were willing to sign up for another tour. Both were free agents. Both could have gone anywhere. I know they will work hard, make themselves available to Brees, and fit into this offense.

Shockey will not be happy. I don't think it's in his makeup. He has a diva superstar attitude. He wants to be the center of attention. He's a loudmouth that has thrown his own coach under the bus. He's unhappy after a season where his team has won the ultimate prize. That's a guy that just waiting up upset the apple cart It has been said that he has a fiery attitude. The problem is that a fiery attitude sometimes blows up in your face. Kyle Turley wasn't so long ago for most of you to remember his famous meltdowns.

I don't want that to be the Saints apple cart. Think about it. Reggie Bush is the superstar of this team. I think we all know that he really doesn't deserve it at this point. It doesn't bother guys like Brees, Colston, and Deuce who really deserve superstar accolades for this team. You think Shockey will be happy when the reporters flock over to Bush's locker to ask him about whatever? Or how about the first time Payton feels the need to get into Shockey's face. You think he'll respond well?

The Saints need talented guys that can be trusted to do what's best for the team.

I don't trust Shockey. This is a guy that right now that has thrown his own organization under the bus with this debacle.

Why would I want him in our organization?

SFIAH

Just a few things here...

1. Would you really "ignore" Shockey on D? I welcome him then.

2. It is about "fit". And didn't you read the title of this post??? You think our head coach knows a little more (than us) about just how well Shockey will fit in New Orleans??

3. You're making huge assumptions about Shockey's attitude/makeup and how he will act when reporters "flock to Bush's locker"... Were you actually IN the locker room last season? Or do you just believe everything you read?

4. I haven't heard Shockey throw anyone under the bus, all i've heard is that he wants to play for another team that he can be a bigger part of.

Everyone keeps talking about the guy like he's the next coming of Ozzie Newsome or Shannon Sharpe.

His best year was his rookie year. And that was a long time ago.


Maybe. But our head coach is still relatively new to the job. Also he really hasn't had to deal with any true player adversity.

I might have a different opinion if he had gone through some Chad Johnson/T.O. type drama before.



You know that you are talking about a guy that went on record after a game and said that his coach can't coach? I believe I threw in that link in a previous post.

Could you imagine the Shockey lockerroom press conference after losing the Tampa game on a truely stupid play last year?

And you want that possibility in our locker room?



The very fact that he wants off the SuperBowl champions because he wants to be a bigger part of another team speaks volumes. More than I can ever say.

SFIAH

Bottom Line: Shockey would make us better on the field.

All the other crap has been blown out of proportion.

I don't trust Shockey. This is a guy that right now that has thrown his own organization under the bus with this debacle.

Why would I want him in our organization?

SFIAH

Because he was with a team that DESERVED being thrown under the Bus. Because ALL the Giant players have been throwing Coughlin under the bus since he got there! Because WE ARE NOT a screwed up team!

God, you people act like you have never had a difference in attitude based on your enviornment! Ever had a job you hated? You went in to work thinking "here I go again, grrr." and then you get a new job and all is good? That has NEVER happened to you?

He makes us better. Period.