2010 NFL Draft

Danno · 02-26-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Are you serious?!?
Harper can't cover schiott; and he hits like a girl!
...

Think B.S. (Before Sharper)
PI Calls; Harper and Jason David chasing AFTER post patterns; his instincts are awful and he doesn't consistently "bring the wood"...
We need a Strong Safety and if Mays does fall, he'd be an improvement...

Strong Safety is our weakest link on defense...

Well well well, our "weakest link" was tendered as a 1st rounder. Maybe he's not as bad as you think?

CantonLegend · 02-26-2010, 10:08 AM

one thing everybody needs to remember is that the saints scout ohio and other midwestern products very heavily

since sean payton came to the saints, they have drafted 5 players out of the state of ohio alone in only 4 years

the lowest pick out of ohio was antonio pittman who was a 4th rounder

if you want to predict where our draft picks are going to come from......look at prospects in or around ohio......think pennsylvania, michigan, indiana, and illinois......even north carolina has a few picks

also remember we have not picked any players from LSU or texas

exile · 02-26-2010, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

if you want to predict where our draft picks are going to come from......look at prospects in or around ohio......think pennsylvania, michigan, indiana, and illinois......even north carolina has a few picks

also remember we have not picked any players from LSU or texas

Actually I think he likes USC the most. With Tennessee close behind.

Honestly though. I don't think they really give a rat's azz where picks come from. As long as they can play ball.

How about USF?

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CantonLegend · 02-26-2010, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by exile

Actually I think he likes USC the most. With Tennessee close behind.

only 2 picks from USC and tennessee

Honestly though. I don't think they really give a rat's azz where picks come from. As long as they can play ball.

im sure he doesnt care......i was just saying that if you wanted to guess, its a good bet to think that at least one of our picks will come from ohio and it will be an early round pick

exile · 02-26-2010, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

only 2 picks from USC and tennessee

First rounders since SP. USC (2), Tenn (1), OSU (1).

CantonLegend · 02-26-2010, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by exile

First rounders since SP. USC (2), Tenn (1), OSU (1).

good stuff.....still wondering why you put tennessee in the mix tho lol

i guess we are going to pick everson griffen or taylor mays

i was looking at players all around ohio tho

there arent many OSU players worth looking at this season.....but cincy has 2 guys we may look at

not to mention sean payton always looks at kent state......if i was a betting man i would still bet OSU over USC but in the first round there is definitly a higher probability based on the past that we will pick a USC guy

even if it is only 2 to 1

CantonLegend · 02-26-2010, 01:18 PM

another guy to keep an eye on is geno atkins

very small for an NFL DT at only 6'1" 285 lbs

plays a lot like hargrove does.......a pass rush specialist but isnt tall enough to play DE

could play 3-tech and help rush the passer but isnt the help we need in rush defense

a mid round prospect to keep an eye on

exile · 02-26-2010, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

good stuff.....still wondering why you put tennessee in the mix tho lol

Meachem?

I would guess we let Grant walk and pick a DE first round though. I still like Dunlap but he isn't going to fall and Griffen probably won't either. JPP is my hopeful.

jeanpierre · 02-26-2010, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Well well well, our "weakest link" was tendered as a 1st rounder. Maybe he's not as bad as you think?

Danno bro, I would L-O-V-E to get a R1 pick for Harper...

I would be Farmer Fran ecstatic to get a R1 pick for Harper...

Only problem is...we get better value with our 4R and 7R picks?!?

I think it's just leverage for a trade of Harper...

Danno · 02-26-2010, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Danno bro, I would L-O-V-E to get a R1 pick for Harper...

I would be Farmer Fran ecstatic to get a R1 pick for Harper...

Only problem is...we get better value with our 4R and 7R picks?!?

I think it's just leverage for a trade of Harper...

I'd take a 1st too, but my point is he's a lot better than many thought. If he was truly the "weakest link", no way would any team give up a 1st rounder for him. Not even the Raiders are that stupid. Well thats debatable.

If he was truly the weak link we would bait other teams with a reasonable tender, like a 3rd rounder, or even a 2nd rounder.

If no one bites we pay him a lot of money for 1 year. You don't bait teams to sign a weak link with a 1st round tender. You typically do that because you want to keep him, or you want to encourage him to sign a long term contract.

In my opinion a 2nd round tender would have been best. If another team offers him an appropriate contract, we can match it or get a 2nd rounder in return.

The staff wants to keep him, and if they do lose him they're gonna get a 1st rounder for him.

02-26-2010, 09:36 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Are you serious?!? Harper can't cover schiott; and he hits like a girl! ... Think B.S. (Before Sharper) PI Calls; Harper and Jason David chasing AFTER post patterns; his instincts are awful and he doesn't consistently "bring the wood"... We need a Strong Safety and if Mays does fall, he'd be an improvement... Strong Safety is our weakest link on defense... Well well well, our "weakest link" was tendered as a 1st rounder. Maybe he's not as bad as you think?

02-26-2010, 10:08 AM	#2
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft one thing everybody needs to remember is that the saints scout ohio and other midwestern products very heavily since sean payton came to the saints, they have drafted 5 players out of the state of ohio alone in only 4 years the lowest pick out of ohio was antonio pittman who was a 4th rounder if you want to predict where our draft picks are going to come from......look at prospects in or around ohio......think pennsylvania, michigan, indiana, and illinois......even north carolina has a few picks also remember we have not picked any players from LSU or texas
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

02-26-2010, 10:45 AM	#4
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by exile Actually I think he likes USC the most. With Tennessee close behind. only 2 picks from USC and tennessee Honestly though. I don't think they really give a rat's azz where picks come from. As long as they can play ball. im sure he doesnt care......i was just saying that if you wanted to guess, its a good bet to think that at least one of our picks will come from ohio and it will be an early round pick

02-26-2010, 12:57 PM	#5
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend only 2 picks from USC and tennessee First rounders since SP. USC (2), Tenn (1), OSU (1).
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02-26-2010, 01:09 PM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by exile First rounders since SP. USC (2), Tenn (1), OSU (1). good stuff.....still wondering why you put tennessee in the mix tho lol i guess we are going to pick everson griffen or taylor mays i was looking at players all around ohio tho there arent many OSU players worth looking at this season.....but cincy has 2 guys we may look at not to mention sean payton always looks at kent state......if i was a betting man i would still bet OSU over USC but in the first round there is definitly a higher probability based on the past that we will pick a USC guy even if it is only 2 to 1
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02-26-2010, 01:18 PM	#7
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft another guy to keep an eye on is geno atkins very small for an NFL DT at only 6'1" 285 lbs plays a lot like hargrove does.......a pass rush specialist but isnt tall enough to play DE could play 3-tech and help rush the passer but isnt the help we need in rush defense a mid round prospect to keep an eye on

02-26-2010, 01:25 PM	#8
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend good stuff.....still wondering why you put tennessee in the mix tho lol Meachem? I would guess we let Grant walk and pick a DE first round though. I still like Dunlap but he isn't going to fall and Griffen probably won't either. JPP is my hopeful.
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02-26-2010, 06:33 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by Danno Well well well, our "weakest link" was tendered as a 1st rounder. Maybe he's not as bad as you think? Danno bro, I would L-O-V-E to get a R1 pick for Harper... I would be Farmer Fran ecstatic to get a R1 pick for Harper... Only problem is...we get better value with our 4R and 7R picks?!? I think it's just leverage for a trade of Harper...

02-26-2010, 06:44 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Danno bro, I would L-O-V-E to get a R1 pick for Harper... I would be Farmer Fran ecstatic to get a R1 pick for Harper... Only problem is...we get better value with our 4R and 7R picks?!? I think it's just leverage for a trade of Harper... I'd take a 1st too, but my point is he's a lot better than many thought. If he was truly the "weakest link", no way would any team give up a 1st rounder for him. Not even the Raiders are that stupid. Well thats debatable. If he was truly the weak link we would bait other teams with a reasonable tender, like a 3rd rounder, or even a 2nd rounder. If no one bites we pay him a lot of money for 1 year. You don't bait teams to sign a weak link with a 1st round tender. You typically do that because you want to keep him, or you want to encourage him to sign a long term contract. In my opinion a 2nd round tender would have been best. If another team offers him an appropriate contract, we can match it or get a 2nd rounder in return. The staff wants to keep him, and if they do lose him they're gonna get a 1st rounder for him.

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