2010 NFL Draft

CantonLegend · 03-03-2010, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

SO WHY DID HE NOT STAY IN SHAPE TO BEGIN WITH...

AND LARGER PEOPLE CAN ADD AND DROP 10 POUNDS IN A WEEK; IT'S THE LAST TEN-FIFTEEN THAT ARE HARDER TO LOSE/KEEP OFF...

YOU WANT DIESEL; A GUY THAT MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY IS AS READY IN FEBRUARY AS HE IS IN NOVEMBER...

CODY WOULDN'T BE A R1 NOR A R2 PICK IF I'M A GM; HE DOESN'T HAVE THE GREAT BURST A 4-3 TACKLE NEEDS...

PLUS, WE JUST INVESTED A FEW PICKS IN THE VILMA TRADE; VILMA LEFT NYJ BECAUSE THEY SHIFTED TO A 3-4; YOU'RE NOW SAYING WE SHOULD GEAUX TO A 3-4 AS WELL...

I'm just sayin...

why does everything have to be in caps? its obvious you want a response or you wouldnt have made your post so prominent

he didnt stay in shape, IMO, because football was over....for the first time in 8 years he was allowed to take a break. but thats just me guessing

let me let you in on a little secret...im no little guy....nobody in my family is a little guy.....and it has never been easy for me to lose 10 lbs regardless of how hard i work out......now gaining weight for me is much much easier....im just speaking from personal experience but losing weight isnt easy for anyone....and its especially hard for bigger people because they usually arent in shape

football is over after the super bowl in february.....after that i dont care what the players do....after 10 months of football they should get at least a 2 month break.....dont you think? as long as they show up to play when the season starts i dont care what they looked like during the offseason

i know you're not a GM.....fwiw neither am i.....everybody has an opinion....mine just happens to be better than yours lol

also....we invested 1 draft pick in vilma.......and he didnt leave NY because he didnt wanna play in the 3-4.....he left NY because the trade required him to. he was upset about how he was used in the 3-4 defense but despite being our defensive captain......he is only 1 player.....if we need to run a 3-4 then we should run a 3-4.....if we need to run a defense with no defensive linemen.....then do that.....gregg williams knows what we need.....NOT JONATHAN VILMA.....

i really feel like thats why everybody doesnt want us to switch to the 3-4 but 1 player doesnt make a team....especially in football....vilma is crucial to our success.....but he is only 1 player......and he was mostly unhappy because the jets stunk....nobody cares what their role is when you are winning

Saint_LB · 03-03-2010, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

SO WHY DID HE NOT STAY IN SHAPE TO BEGIN WITH...

AND LARGER PEOPLE CAN ADD AND DROP 10 POUNDS IN A WEEK; IT'S THE LAST TEN-FIFTEEN THAT ARE HARDER TO LOSE/KEEP OFF...

YOU WANT DIESEL; A GUY THAT MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY IS AS READY IN FEBRUARY AS HE IS IN NOVEMBER...

CODY WOULDN'T BE A R1 NOR A R2 PICK IF I'M A GM; HE DOESN'T HAVE THE GREAT BURST A 4-3 TACKLE NEEDS...

PLUS, WE JUST INVESTED A FEW PICKS IN THE VILMA TRADE; VILMA LEFT NYJ BECAUSE THEY SHIFTED TO A 3-4; YOU'RE NOW SAYING WE SHOULD GEAUX TO A 3-4 AS WELL...

Originally Posted by cantonlegend

I'm just sayin...
why does everything have to be in caps? its obvious you want a response or you wouldnt have made your post so prominent

he didnt stay in shape, IMO, because football was over....for the first time in 8 years he was allowed to take a break. but thats just me guessing

let me let you in on a little secret...im no little guy....nobody in my family is a little guy.....and it has never been easy for me to lose 10 lbs regardless of how hard i work out......now gaining weight for me is much much easier....im just speaking from personal experience but losing weight isnt easy for anyone....and its especially hard for bigger people because they usually arent in shape

football is over after the super bowl in february.....after that i dont care what the players do....after 10 months of football they should get at least a 2 month break.....dont you think? as long as they show up to play when the season starts i dont care what they looked like during the offseason

i know you're not a GM.....fwiw neither am i.....everybody has an opinion....mine just happens to be better than yours lol

also....we invested 1 draft pick in vilma.......and he didnt leave NY because he didnt wanna play in the 3-4.....he left NY because the trade required him to. he was upset about how he was used in the 3-4 defense but despite being our defensive captain......he is only 1 player.....if we need to run a 3-4 then we should run a 3-4.....if we need to run a defense with no defensive linemen.....then do that.....gregg williams knows what we need.....NOT JONATHAN VILMA.....

i really feel like thats why everybody doesnt want us to switch to the 3-4 but 1 player doesnt make a team....especially in football....vilma is crucial to our success.....but he is only 1 player......and he was mostly unhappy
because the jets stunk....nobody cares what their role is when you are winning

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skymike · 03-03-2010, 06:08 AM

this thread makes me hungry.

cant wait till KFC opens.

jeanpierre · 03-03-2010, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

why does everything have to be in caps? its obvious you want a response or you wouldnt have made your post so prominent

Don't be one of those handwriting analyst, using a keyboard in the other office that has a jammed Caps Lock key...

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

he didnt stay in shape, IMO, because football was over....for the first time in 8 years he was allowed to take a break. but thats just me guessing

That's just it; to be the best you can be; to expect to have millions of dollars invested in you as an athlete (even a DT); you have to stay in shape year round...

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

football is over after the super bowl in february.....after that i dont care what the players do....after 10 months of football they should get at least a 2 month break.....dont you think?

Don't let Drew Brees hear you say that...

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

...we invested 1 draft pick in vilma...and he didnt leave NY because he didnt wanna play in the 3-4...he left NY because the trade required him to. he was upset about how he was used in the 3-4 defense but despite being our defensive captain...he is only 1 player...if we need to run a 3-4 then we should run a 3-4...if we need to run a defense with no defensive linemen...then do that...gregg williams knows what we need...NOT JONATHAN VILMA..?

Canton, you're right; it's not one guy; and the personalities we have on defense, coaches included, are a collection of faster, leaner, attack types; all Cody looks to know to attack is the left side of the McDonalds menu...

skymike · 03-03-2010, 07:47 AM

mmm. mcgriddles..

CantonLegend · 03-03-2010, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

mmm. mcgriddles..

lol clown

now those are some mcgriddles i could sink my teeth in to

CantonLegend · 03-03-2010, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Canton, you're right; it's not one guy; and the personalities we have on defense, coaches included, are a collection of faster, leaner, attack types; all Cody looks to know to attack is the left side of the McDonalds menu...

heres the deal. you guys look at cody as overweight

i see him at his playing weight and see his strength

even at 370 at the senior bowl he still had a good game.....IN A 4-3

now i know we ran a 4-3 for the majority of the season but we didnt run it the whole season......everybody is so pumped about drafting a sergio kindle type of player who plays hybrid DE/OLB probably in a 3-4 but nobody wants to admit that having a big guy in the middle would actually help us compliment the speed we have on the field

shanle and fujita are not the fastest guys so im not sure where you got that from....charles grant certainly isnt a speed demon....sedrick ellis and kendrick clancy are quick but they are more of power rushers than speed guys

im not exactly sure where you got the speed remark.

however.....to the haters of terrence cody i say......how are we goin to stop the run without drafting a NT?

BRSaintsFan · 03-04-2010, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

heres the deal. you guys look at cody as overweight

i see him at his playing weight and see his strength

even at 370 at the senior bowl he still had a good game.....IN A 4-3

now i know we ran a 4-3 for the majority of the season but we didnt run it the whole season......everybody is so pumped about drafting a sergio kindle type of player who plays hybrid DE/OLB probably in a 3-4 but nobody wants to admit that having a big guy in the middle would actually help us compliment the speed we have on the field

shanle and fujita are not the fastest guys so im not sure where you got that from....charles grant certainly isnt a speed demon....sedrick ellis and kendrick clancy are quick but they are more of power rushers than speed guys

im not exactly sure where you got the speed remark.

however.....to the haters of terrence cody i say......how are we goin to stop the run without drafting a NT?

I would not mind Cody at all. I dont think it will happen as someone ahead of us who runs the 3-4 predominantly will value him at NT too much. In the event that he falls, I would not be shocked at all if the Chiefs at 36 wanted to make a deal to trade up to get Cody to anchor their 3-4. I agree that Cody would be a big boost to our run defense. He would likely command a double team and would free up Ellis to penetrate the gaps and the LBs to be free to roam. However, he does not have the ability to get to the QB so would need to be taken out on passing downs in favor of Hargove (which again, I am totally for because I think a fresh Hargrove in a pass rush situation is great). Its a good move by him to drop some weight before the Combine, but his overall conditioning could be a concern. Also, he has been scouted as not always giving 100% (sometimes due to fatigue late in games). At 32, picking up a premier run stopping DT, although he need not be on the field to rush the passer, is a good pick IMO, but I would also be entertaining that offer from the Chiefs.

jeanpierre · 03-06-2010, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

...I would not be shocked at all if the Chiefs at 36 wanted to make a deal to trade up to get Cody to anchor their 3-4...

So then what happens to Dorsey? And do the Saints make a trade?

saintsfan1976 · 03-06-2010, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So then what happens to Dorsey? And do the Saints make a trade?

I'm Pro-Dorsey. We have ammunition, so it could happen.

Okay Smash, draft an LB or TWO?? Nah, I could see us taking one early tho especially if any of the top 4 or 5 are there at 32.

Biggest holes in our defense?
DL
S
CB depth
OLB

03-03-2010, 12:31 AM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre SO WHY DID HE NOT STAY IN SHAPE TO BEGIN WITH... AND LARGER PEOPLE CAN ADD AND DROP 10 POUNDS IN A WEEK; IT'S THE LAST TEN-FIFTEEN THAT ARE HARDER TO LOSE/KEEP OFF... YOU WANT DIESEL; A GUY THAT MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY IS AS READY IN FEBRUARY AS HE IS IN NOVEMBER... CODY WOULDN'T BE A R1 NOR A R2 PICK IF I'M A GM; HE DOESN'T HAVE THE GREAT BURST A 4-3 TACKLE NEEDS... PLUS, WE JUST INVESTED A FEW PICKS IN THE VILMA TRADE; VILMA LEFT NYJ BECAUSE THEY SHIFTED TO A 3-4; YOU'RE NOW SAYING WE SHOULD GEAUX TO A 3-4 AS WELL... I'm just sayin... why does everything have to be in caps? its obvious you want a response or you wouldnt have made your post so prominent he didnt stay in shape, IMO, because football was over....for the first time in 8 years he was allowed to take a break. but thats just me guessing let me let you in on a little secret...im no little guy....nobody in my family is a little guy.....and it has never been easy for me to lose 10 lbs regardless of how hard i work out......now gaining weight for me is much much easier....im just speaking from personal experience but losing weight isnt easy for anyone....and its especially hard for bigger people because they usually arent in shape football is over after the super bowl in february.....after that i dont care what the players do....after 10 months of football they should get at least a 2 month break.....dont you think? as long as they show up to play when the season starts i dont care what they looked like during the offseason i know you're not a GM.....fwiw neither am i.....everybody has an opinion....mine just happens to be better than yours lol also....we invested 1 draft pick in vilma.......and he didnt leave NY because he didnt wanna play in the 3-4.....he left NY because the trade required him to. he was upset about how he was used in the 3-4 defense but despite being our defensive captain......he is only 1 player.....if we need to run a 3-4 then we should run a 3-4.....if we need to run a defense with no defensive linemen.....then do that.....gregg williams knows what we need.....NOT JONATHAN VILMA..... i really feel like thats why everybody doesnt want us to switch to the 3-4 but 1 player doesnt make a team....especially in football....vilma is crucial to our success.....but he is only 1 player......and he was mostly unhappy because the jets stunk....nobody cares what their role is when you are winning
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

03-03-2010, 06:08 AM	#3
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: 2010 NFL Draft this thread makes me hungry. cant wait till KFC opens.

03-03-2010, 06:26 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend why does everything have to be in caps? its obvious you want a response or you wouldnt have made your post so prominent Don't be one of those handwriting analyst, using a keyboard in the other office that has a jammed Caps Lock key... Originally Posted by CantonLegend he didnt stay in shape, IMO, because football was over....for the first time in 8 years he was allowed to take a break. but thats just me guessing That's just it; to be the best you can be; to expect to have millions of dollars invested in you as an athlete (even a DT); you have to stay in shape year round... Originally Posted by CantonLegend football is over after the super bowl in february.....after that i dont care what the players do....after 10 months of football they should get at least a 2 month break.....dont you think? Don't let Drew Brees hear you say that... Originally Posted by CantonLegend ...we invested 1 draft pick in vilma...and he didnt leave NY because he didnt wanna play in the 3-4...he left NY because the trade required him to. he was upset about how he was used in the 3-4 defense but despite being our defensive captain...he is only 1 player...if we need to run a 3-4 then we should run a 3-4...if we need to run a defense with no defensive linemen...then do that...gregg williams knows what we need...NOT JONATHAN VILMA..? Canton, you're right; it's not one guy; and the personalities we have on defense, coaches included, are a collection of faster, leaner, attack types; all Cody looks to know to attack is the left side of the McDonalds menu...
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03-03-2010, 07:47 AM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: 2010 NFL Draft mmm. mcgriddles..

03-03-2010, 01:10 PM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by skymike mmm. mcgriddles.. lol clown now those are some mcgriddles i could sink my teeth in to

03-03-2010, 01:09 PM	#7
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Canton, you're right; it's not one guy; and the personalities we have on defense, coaches included, are a collection of faster, leaner, attack types; all Cody looks to know to attack is the left side of the McDonalds menu... heres the deal. you guys look at cody as overweight i see him at his playing weight and see his strength even at 370 at the senior bowl he still had a good game.....IN A 4-3 now i know we ran a 4-3 for the majority of the season but we didnt run it the whole season......everybody is so pumped about drafting a sergio kindle type of player who plays hybrid DE/OLB probably in a 3-4 but nobody wants to admit that having a big guy in the middle would actually help us compliment the speed we have on the field shanle and fujita are not the fastest guys so im not sure where you got that from....charles grant certainly isnt a speed demon....sedrick ellis and kendrick clancy are quick but they are more of power rushers than speed guys im not exactly sure where you got the speed remark. however.....to the haters of terrence cody i say......how are we goin to stop the run without drafting a NT?
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

03-04-2010, 09:31 AM	#8
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend heres the deal. you guys look at cody as overweight i see him at his playing weight and see his strength even at 370 at the senior bowl he still had a good game.....IN A 4-3 now i know we ran a 4-3 for the majority of the season but we didnt run it the whole season......everybody is so pumped about drafting a sergio kindle type of player who plays hybrid DE/OLB probably in a 3-4 but nobody wants to admit that having a big guy in the middle would actually help us compliment the speed we have on the field shanle and fujita are not the fastest guys so im not sure where you got that from....charles grant certainly isnt a speed demon....sedrick ellis and kendrick clancy are quick but they are more of power rushers than speed guys im not exactly sure where you got the speed remark. however.....to the haters of terrence cody i say......how are we goin to stop the run without drafting a NT? I would not mind Cody at all. I dont think it will happen as someone ahead of us who runs the 3-4 predominantly will value him at NT too much. In the event that he falls, I would not be shocked at all if the Chiefs at 36 wanted to make a deal to trade up to get Cody to anchor their 3-4. I agree that Cody would be a big boost to our run defense. He would likely command a double team and would free up Ellis to penetrate the gaps and the LBs to be free to roam. However, he does not have the ability to get to the QB so would need to be taken out on passing downs in favor of Hargove (which again, I am totally for because I think a fresh Hargrove in a pass rush situation is great). Its a good move by him to drop some weight before the Combine, but his overall conditioning could be a concern. Also, he has been scouted as not always giving 100% (sometimes due to fatigue late in games). At 32, picking up a premier run stopping DT, although he need not be on the field to rush the passer, is a good pick IMO, but I would also be entertaining that offer from the Chiefs.

03-06-2010, 07:58 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan ...I would not be shocked at all if the Chiefs at 36 wanted to make a deal to trade up to get Cody to anchor their 3-4... So then what happens to Dorsey? And do the Saints make a trade?

03-06-2010, 08:38 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,059 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre So then what happens to Dorsey? And do the Saints make a trade? I'm Pro-Dorsey. We have ammunition, so it could happen. Okay Smash, draft an LB or TWO?? Nah, I could see us taking one early tho especially if any of the top 4 or 5 are there at 32. Biggest holes in our defense? DL S CB depth OLB

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